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highplainsdem

(63,691 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:04 PM Jun 9

FCC Wants to Kill Burner Phones By Forcing Telecoms to Get All Customers' IDs

Source: 404 Media

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) wants to make it effectively impossible for people to buy what many call burner phones—a phone not explicitly linked to your identity at the point of purchase—which would impact privacy-conscious people, to domestic abuse survivors, to journalists, and many more. The FCC plans to do this by legally forcing the country’s telecoms to store a wealth of personal information about essentially all phone customers, including a government issued identification number and their physical address, alarming privacy advocates and civil rights activists who compare the measures to those from authoritarian countries where it can be difficult to buy a mobile phone plan without giving up your identity.

The proposed change would drastically shake up how people obtain phone plans in the U.S., and have all sorts of privacy and cybersecurity knock-on effects. The FCC is proposing the data collection partly as a way to combat scammers, with telecoms being required to collect other information on business and foreign customers like the intended use case of their bulk phone plan purchase and their IP address. But the changes would mean telecoms collect data on all new and renewing customers, and the FCC provides a long list of other things that the collected data could help authorities with.

“For decades, civil libertarians have looked overseas at authoritarian countries where the government requires people to register to get a mobile phone to ensure they can be tracked. We never thought that would happen here,” Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union’s (ACLU) Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project told 404 Media in an email. “But make no mistake: with this rulemaking, the government is contemplating taking away people’s ability to get a burner phone, which will hurt low-income people, domestic violence victims, and anyone else who cares about their privacy.”

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One section stresses that the newly collected data would help “law enforcement to more easily identify callers that use the network to perpetuate crimes by ensuring that voice providers have accurate and complete customer information.” It goes on to ask if the data would help identify people buying and selling illicit goods; the investigation of “fraud, espionage, or influence operations that undermine national security”, and “address abuse in text messaging networks.”

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Read more: https://www.404media.co/fcc-wants-to-kill-burner-phones-by-forcing-telecoms-to-get-all-customers-ids/

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FCC Wants to Kill Burner Phones By Forcing Telecoms to Get All Customers' IDs (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 9 OP
So how will MAGA shitcasters exchange messages by shady bot filled Russian social media apps? Initech Jun 9 #1
They can't even regulate the old wireline/VOIP lines mdbl Jun 9 #2
They want to track us 24/7/365. WestMichRad Jun 9 #3
Technofascism Is Coming 2na fisherman Jun 9 #8
It's all MY FAULT! They want to stop all my burner phone threats to evil Republican politicians.... Jack Valentino Jun 9 #25
I get why this is controversial genxlib Jun 9 #4
Agreed. The Madcap Jun 9 #5
Freedom is scary, isn't it. ret5hd Jun 9 #23
Yes, they are often used for nefarious purposes Jilly_in_VA Jun 9 #6
Every "current"mystery I read has someone with a burner phone trying to hide. efhmc Jun 10 #30
Republicans never cared for privacy of the public dave99 Jun 9 #7
This will destroy pay as you go phone options for millions of americans who don't want to be tied to a contract. nt ImNotGod Jun 9 #9
See, this is the part I don't understand.. Karma13612 Jun 9 #15
Yours is not a burner phone SpankMe Jun 9 #18
Well what was the answer? Did he have Prince Albert in a can or not? efhmc Jun 10 #31
Ohhhh! Karma13612 Jun 10 #32
Taken to its logical end, just track everyone always. OC375 Jun 9 #10
Track everyone, always? WestMichRad Jun 9 #12
it also smacks of "if you're doing nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about" Skittles Jun 9 #13
Yep. Fascists LOVE to use that line as a justification for every fucking thing they do. Karasu Jun 9 #22
yes Skittles Jun 9 #29
Exactly OC375 Jun 9 #16
Your implanted chip not fooled Jun 9 #26
But that will mess up all the cop shows on TV. DavidDvorkin Jun 9 #11
Once again, the Party of Liberty and Small Government dalton99a Jun 9 #14
Scared shitless of the coming protests orangecrush Jun 9 #17
Now do crypto! purr-rat beauty Jun 9 #19
They did this in Mexico and gangsta's just had another person buy their phone and use their ID Card. n/t Jacson6 Jun 9 #20
This is a level of fascism you aren't seeing in any other "first-world" country. They are pushing the surveillance shit Karasu Jun 9 #21
That's just great. A new market for identity thieves... hunter Jun 9 #24
Using their argument dark money PACs should be abolished as well and donors should register. cstanleytech Jun 9 #27
Can't wait to ditch cell phones upon retirement. OC375 Jun 9 #28
how will this stop scammers calling from India for example? Layzeebeaver Jun 10 #33
People think cell phones are private? twodogsbarking Jun 10 #34
It's for national security. twodogsbarking Jun 10 #35
They are hypocrites. SamuelAdams Jun 10 #36
Does this include the Trump family's burner phones? travelingthrulife Jun 10 #37

mdbl

(8,952 posts)
2. They can't even regulate the old wireline/VOIP lines
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:17 PM
Jun 9

I get crap calls all day from misidentified numbers. Brendan Carrtel needs to fix the shit he already has in front of him.

2na fisherman

(393 posts)
8. Technofascism Is Coming
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:12 PM
Jun 9

Big Brother is watching and listening. Soon it might be illegal to turn off your TV/PC/phone and the concept of privacy will be eliminated for "national security" reasons because of increasing mass casualty terrorist events. People may even vote for this out of fear and a need for a greater sense of security. Such a total surveillance environment can be managed and cross-linked among all platforms by AI bots. Too sci-fi? I'm too old to see it come to fruition but it seems like this could really happen in the near future.

Jack Valentino

(5,377 posts)
25. It's all MY FAULT! They want to stop all my burner phone threats to evil Republican politicians....
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 10:15 PM
Jun 9

: :

OK, I've often thought of it, but never actually done it... (since the phone I have now is registered!)

genxlib

(6,185 posts)
4. I get why this is controversial
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:24 PM
Jun 9

But I read a lot of spy and crime novels and this is a primary plot point. I realize it is fiction but it does ring true that they are being used for nefarious purposes beyond basic privacy protections.

Seems like there has to be a way to do this in a way that works for both sides of the argument but I do see both sides.

The Madcap

(2,157 posts)
5. Agreed.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:28 PM
Jun 9

Unfortunately, that would necessitate a certain level of trust in the government to not misuse your info for surveillance or sell it to businesses so they can sell you stuff you don't need.

I wouldn't trust the current "government" to do the right thing in that regard.

ret5hd

(22,702 posts)
23. Freedom is scary, isn't it.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:50 PM
Jun 9

i’ll certainly take 24 hour surveillance to make sure i’m absolutely safe.

that will work, won’t it?

won’t it?

Jilly_in_VA

(14,739 posts)
6. Yes, they are often used for nefarious purposes
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:40 PM
Jun 9

But I object to this whole idea of tracing everybody 24/7, which is the eventual aim, no matter what their argument. Fuck you, Brendan Carr, and the elephant you rode in on.

efhmc

(17,271 posts)
30. Every "current"mystery I read has someone with a burner phone trying to hide.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:38 AM
Jun 10

I think there will be underground sources for regular folks and nefarious sorts.

ImNotGod

(1,318 posts)
9. This will destroy pay as you go phone options for millions of americans who don't want to be tied to a contract. nt
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:37 PM
Jun 9

Karma13612

(5,047 posts)
15. See, this is the part I don't understand..
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:12 PM
Jun 9

I have had pay as you go (Tracfone) for about 20 years. I have gotten new phones over the years and had to change my number a couple times. But, as soon as it was possible to ‘port’ my telephone number to a new phone, I have now had my current phone number for a long time. I’m on my 2nd Apple iPhone ( or is it my third?).

Tracfone knows who I am. I had to register with them and I log on to their website to see my current phone service expiration date and my balance of data and text and minutes.

Does this put me in the category of a burner phone? Hopefully not.

SpankMe

(3,801 posts)
18. Yours is not a burner phone
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:30 PM
Jun 9

This is because you have an account with Tracfone and you buy time as you go.

Burner phones are stand-alone phones that require no account. They are completely untethered to an individual. You buy it, activate it it without going online or creating an account. Then you call your uncle Larry's liquor store and ask if they have Prince Albert in a can.

Their official rationle is to combat evil because drug dealers, kidnappers and terrorists use burner phones to commit crime and escape detection.

Unofficially (and in reality) they're adding to the capabilities of a surveillance state. Republicans are going on the assumption that they'll never be out of power again and are throwing every lever available to create and maintain their conservative utopian hell in America.

Something this extreme should require legislation and not simply be a regulatory choice of a federal department. I can't see how this rule fits in to the regulatory mission of FCC.

This is exactly the kind of thing Republicans rail against when Dems are in charge. Every little regulation is framed as 'unelected bureaucrats overstepping their authority to oppress America'.

Karma13612

(5,047 posts)
32. Ohhhh!
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:07 AM
Jun 10

OK.
So, I’m OK then.

But I agree that this method of legislating is very troubling. Way TOO much governmental overreach, again.

Thanks for the info!

OC375

(1,202 posts)
10. Taken to its logical end, just track everyone always.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:54 PM
Jun 9

You'll always know who the criminal is, for every crime, however minor. Cookies, embedded AI agents, cameras, GPS, it could be done. Easily.

At some point, personal privacy and security are more of a concern to me than security of the group. Sorry, gang, but that's how I roll.

Wonder when or if we'll get a chance to draw the line? Wonder if we would actually part with our conveniences if it meant not being tracked, monetized and shilled to constantly? I think we're use to it.

Not a big leap to figure out who spends all the money they get paid, and quit hiring savers, to keep the employees on the hook. How about a pay cut, then a loan pitched by a wholly owned subsidiary of your employer to help you through the tough times... then another 10% pay cut? You might have quit over the whole 20%, so you're welcome. And, you can keep your job if you keep paying the loan.

AI is fascinating.

WestMichRad

(3,512 posts)
12. Track everyone, always?
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:48 PM
Jun 9

Really?

So when I go electronics free and ride a bicycle, I’ll be a highly suspicious potential criminal. Sigh.
Then they’ll follow me around with a drone, I suppose.

Karasu

(2,299 posts)
22. Yep. Fascists LOVE to use that line as a justification for every fucking thing they do.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:18 PM
Jun 9

Because anyone who doesn’t agree to comply is obviously a criminal in their simplistic minds.

Jacson6

(2,310 posts)
20. They did this in Mexico and gangsta's just had another person buy their phone and use their ID Card. n/t
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:45 PM
Jun 9

Karasu

(2,299 posts)
21. This is a level of fascism you aren't seeing in any other "first-world" country. They are pushing the surveillance shit
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:17 PM
Jun 9

WAY too hard here in the land of the “free."

It damn well better blow up in their fucking faces somehow.

SamuelAdams

(337 posts)
36. They are hypocrites.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 07:32 AM
Jun 10

This same administration pretending to care about law and order supports crypto, which is heavily used by criminals.

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