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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(117,833 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:40 PM Tuesday

White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September

Source: Washington Post

The White House’s Office of Personnel Management sent an email blast Tuesday to civilian government employees offering them an easy way to quit with pay through Sept. 30, the most sweeping effort yet by the new Trump administration to shrink the ranks of the federal workforce.

The email instructed employees to reply to the message saying they want to resign if they would like to take the offer, which would provide the incentive for workers who accept by Feb. 6, said an Office of Personnel Management spokesperson. Not all employees will be eligible, according to the spokesperson, who said some of the exemptions will be up to agency heads. Additional carveouts exist for immigration officers, some people in national security-focused roles, the Postal Service and the armed forces, the spokesperson said.

The email blast comes less than a day after the White House announced a freeze on federal spending, which plunged the country into confusion and chaos, with food safety, crime prevention and housing assistance programs, among others, on the line. And it caps days of speculation after the personnel management office first start sending emails to groups of federal workers from an “hr” address, saying it was testing a “new distribution system.”

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/28/trump-emails-workforce/



Take your own advice Donny and resign.
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White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday OP
You first, don the con! biophile Tuesday #1
Get lawyers and fight this at every level. These are not appointed positions, they are career public servants. nt Evolve Dammit Tuesday #2
Voluntary buyout offers should be prohibited? MichMan Tuesday #8
The rub is probably in the fine print... Hugin Tuesday #10
Where does the money come from? eggplant Tuesday #13
It's already budgeted MichMan Tuesday #14
It wasn't budgeted to pay for someone to not work 9 months. This is theft of taxpayer dollars. SunSeeker Yesterday #18
No it is not. This is blatant misinformation. littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #23
That means no one will be getting paid after March regardless of taking this offer or not MichMan 15 hrs ago #49
Bingo. littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #51
So then WHY did you misrepresent that the payout is "already budgeted"???? SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #61
Does the executive office have the ability to make this offer without legislation? Nope. This is another con. FSogol 16 hrs ago #26
It would be foolish to trust this asshole who pays nobody with your job/pension/benefits. Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #33
You will lose your insurance and potentially pension DenaliDemocrat 15 hrs ago #45
Do they Rebl2 Tuesday #3
Pension grab! dickthegrouch Tuesday #4
Get it all in writing! greatauntoftriplets Tuesday #5
Hello!! Is anyone is office hearing this? This man is fucking insane. Autumn Tuesday #6
They don't want the agencies to exist. Period. Evolve Dammit Tuesday #7
they are not interested in governing Skittles Yesterday #20
The goal is not to hire replacements. President Musk talked about this on the campaign trail. Native 15 hrs ago #39
They're not getting rid of 2 million people. Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #62
And does that fucker have the authority to offer 2 million Federal employees Autumn 13 hrs ago #63
That's a different question which I can't answer Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #64
What we are reading and watching is the playbook of Victor Orban............ turbinetree Tuesday #9
It's not exactly quitting per se. They will be allowed to work remotely...telework....until September, at which LiberalLoner Tuesday #11
Except that... littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #24
Well, there is no money budgeted for any federal workers, I guess. Including my husband.... LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #37
The budget is due to be renegotiated in March. littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #43
Definitely a scam. My worry is that even those feds who do not resign with this scam, may stop being paid altogether. LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #47
Nope, they will be going on paid administrative leave. Native 15 hrs ago #40
My husband, who has direct knowledge of this, says they will continue to telework...they are not stopping working entirely LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #42
A friend Lulu KC Tuesday #12
I'm trying to think just how stupid you would have to be Skittles Tuesday #15
70 million or so Americans unfortunately were that stupid. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday #16
I still think many of them were more anti-female Skittles Yesterday #19
I think you are right Walleye 16 hrs ago #31
My DIL is a Federal prosecutor Mz Pip Yesterday #17
She can't take the money and run. It is not a lump sum payment. SunSeeker Yesterday #21
Exactly, thank you for explaining this. 👍👏 LiberalLoner 17 hrs ago #22
What money? The budget covers February. Then... littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #25
They will continue teleworking as they have been doing all along. They have been working and getting paid, LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #38
It's no longer business as usual, LL. littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #44
No, it isn't business as usual. You can look up what Senior Executive Service means and what the National Nuclear LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #48
Your husband's position and your status are not the issues here. littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #54
What is your advice for all of us in the USA, including yourself (I presume), then? To cash in and move out now? LiberalLoner 14 hrs ago #55
I can't make decisions for anyone but myself and littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #59
Likewise, we are staying and fighting as long as possible, and my husband will continue his work as long as possible in LiberalLoner 14 hrs ago #60
My husband is holding an all hands today on the deferred resignation program from OPM. LiberalLoner 11 hrs ago #66
This is to deprive them of their healthcare plan Walleye 16 hrs ago #27
How much would it take to pay off Trump to stop destroying stuff and leave America alone? sop 16 hrs ago #28
I actually think the hatred is more important to him than the money at this point, he just uses the money as a weapon Walleye 16 hrs ago #32
SIP/VERA Deminpenn 16 hrs ago #29
The federal workforce is not bloated. It is only 1.9% of the total civilian workforce. Lonestarblue 16 hrs ago #30
Like he pays his bills!! Traildogbob 16 hrs ago #34
Interesting background on Curtis Yarvin. His end game, according to him, is LiberalLoner 15 hrs ago #41
Thank you Traildogbob 14 hrs ago #57
😍 LiberalLoner 14 hrs ago #58
Sounds like the company I worked for. They said if anyone over 62 retired they doc03 16 hrs ago #35
Wouldn't the same thing have happened if you hadn't retired? MichMan 15 hrs ago #46
Those who stayed still got paid, got health insurance under the union contract and continued to doc03 14 hrs ago #50
That sucks MichMan 14 hrs ago #52
The offer to pay our insurance wasn't a part of the union contract. doc03 7 hrs ago #67
Trump is a Federal worker....I'll promise him 12 months of pay IF he resigns today Bengus81 16 hrs ago #36
During the campaign MontanaMama 14 hrs ago #53
They should refuse that deal. It's a ruse. They'd never get their money. nt CousinIT 14 hrs ago #56
Kaine says DON'T ACCEPT TRUMP'S OFFER - He has no Authority/No Funds KatyBR 11 hrs ago #65

biophile

(546 posts)
1. You first, don the con!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:45 PM
Tuesday

And I’m not sure I would trust them to pay me through September- he has a history of not paying people what they are due and what they have earned.

Evolve Dammit

(19,606 posts)
2. Get lawyers and fight this at every level. These are not appointed positions, they are career public servants. nt
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:45 PM
Tuesday

MichMan

(13,916 posts)
8. Voluntary buyout offers should be prohibited?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:22 PM
Tuesday

If someone was planning on retiring anyway, why not get a 6 month head start with pay ?

Hugin

(35,207 posts)
10. The rub is probably in the fine print...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:55 PM
Tuesday

By accepting, they may lose their time-in-service and other long term retirement benefits. I am betting it’s the old fire or get someone to resign in the eighth inning of a nine inning game.

This happens all the time in the private sector and it looks like they want to take it public.

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
23. No it is not. This is blatant misinformation.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:52 AM
17 hrs ago

Quote the line item in the budget where this exists.

And where's the new budget?

Nowhere, it doesn't exist yet and funding ends in March 2025.

SunSeeker

(54,285 posts)
61. So then WHY did you misrepresent that the payout is "already budgeted"????
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:02 AM
13 hrs ago

WTF, MichMan?

FSogol

(47,069 posts)
26. Does the executive office have the ability to make this offer without legislation? Nope. This is another con.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:01 AM
16 hrs ago

Ask twitter employees how their buyout worked out. The language of the Trumpish federal buyout is similar. This is a Musk con.

Evolve Dammit

(19,606 posts)
33. It would be foolish to trust this asshole who pays nobody with your job/pension/benefits.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:27 AM
16 hrs ago

Rebl2

(15,331 posts)
3. Do they
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:45 PM
Tuesday

really think he will make good on that deal? Don’t trust anything he says because all he does is lie. At least if you get fired you might be able to get unemployment.

Autumn

(46,997 posts)
6. Hello!! Is anyone is office hearing this? This man is fucking insane.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:57 PM
Tuesday

How long is it going to take to hire and train 2 million people?

Native

(6,727 posts)
39. The goal is not to hire replacements. President Musk talked about this on the campaign trail.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:02 AM
15 hrs ago

Wiz Imp

(3,099 posts)
62. They're not getting rid of 2 million people.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:07 AM
13 hrs ago

I don't know where that confusion is coming from. There are 2 million people being offered this deal. The point is they want everyone working in office 5 days a week and they hope/figure this will get a small percentage of them to quit rather than return to the office full time. They expect at most 10% to take this offer. That's 200,000, not 2 million.

In reality, I expect far less than 10% to take the deal

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-buyouts-federal-workers.html
Trump administration offering buyouts to nearly all federal workers

The Trump administration is offering millions of federal workers the option to accept buyouts through a government-wide “deferred resignation” program.

The offers come as President Donald Trump’s administration pushes federal employees to return to the office five days per week.

The White House expects up to 10% of federal employees to take the buyout, an official told NBC News.

Autumn

(46,997 posts)
63. And does that fucker have the authority to offer 2 million Federal employees
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:14 AM
13 hrs ago

that deal? Quit your job, stay home and get paid for 8 months? Just a fraction of people taking that offer would cause problems.

Wiz Imp

(3,099 posts)
64. That's a different question which I can't answer
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:21 AM
13 hrs ago

But the point of this is NOT to get rid of the entire federal workforce. Trump announced shortly after the election that they would require ALL employees to work in the office 5 days a week, ending telework. They believed this would cause a large number of people to quit. That didn't happen. So now they came up with this "offer" to try to give an incentive to get more people to quit. I don't think it will work.

turbinetree

(25,506 posts)
9. What we are reading and watching is the playbook of Victor Orban............
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:43 PM
Tuesday

he did the same shit in Hungary..............

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
11. It's not exactly quitting per se. They will be allowed to work remotely...telework....until September, at which
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:03 PM
Tuesday

Time they will be over and done with, forever.

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
24. Except that...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:55 AM
16 hrs ago

There's no money budgeted for this scheme. So, unless it's in the new budget, which doesn't exist yet, they would maybe get paid until March.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
37. Well, there is no money budgeted for any federal workers, I guess. Including my husband....
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:59 AM
15 hrs ago

Is that what you are saying?

Because all of these people are currently federal employees, being paid. Right now.

What they are proposing is to allow them to continue to telework as they have been doing so far, at the same rate of pay, until September when they agree to resign with no severance pay.

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
43. The budget is due to be renegotiated in March.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:16 AM
15 hrs ago

That means pay through February, at best. It's a scam.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
47. Definitely a scam. My worry is that even those feds who do not resign with this scam, may stop being paid altogether.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:36 AM
15 hrs ago

My husband says if that happens, we will probably leave the country.

Native

(6,727 posts)
40. Nope, they will be going on paid administrative leave.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:04 AM
15 hrs ago

The goal is to not hire replacements and make it even more intolerable due to workload demands on those who remain...resulting in more resignations.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
42. My husband, who has direct knowledge of this, says they will continue to telework...they are not stopping working entirely
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:07 AM
15 hrs ago

My husband is a valid source of knowledge because the position he holds is exactly four steps away from the President.

Skittles

(161,182 posts)
15. I'm trying to think just how stupid you would have to be
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:20 PM
Tuesday

to believe the con man Donald Fucking Trump

Skittles

(161,182 posts)
19. I still think many of them were more anti-female
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:45 AM
Yesterday

than pro-Trump

but yes, they are ALL idiots

Mz Pip

(27,980 posts)
17. My DIL is a Federal prosecutor
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:21 AM
Yesterday

She should probably just take the money snd run.

Trump is not only stupid, he’s insane.

SunSeeker

(54,285 posts)
21. She can't take the money and run. It is not a lump sum payment.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:52 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)

All that Trymp offered is that they can telework until September, then they must leave. They will be paid monthly during that time for their services. And can still be fired during that time. It is a trap.

Plus, lump sum buyouts are illegal. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
25. What money? The budget covers February. Then...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:57 AM
16 hrs ago

New budget negotiations start in March. A month's pay? Good luck with that.

This isn't covered by any federal funds. It's a scam.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
38. They will continue teleworking as they have been doing all along. They have been working and getting paid,
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:02 AM
15 hrs ago

For however many years.

Regime is saying, we will allow you to continue with your present arrangement, until September, at which time you must quit.

How do I know what is going on? My husband is an SES at NNSA and works in the Forrestal building.

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
44. It's no longer business as usual, LL.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:20 AM
15 hrs ago

And I have no clue what "SES at NNSA" means. I wouldn't be putting all of my eggs in one basket especially when the basket is Donald Trump's.

Regardless, good luck. I hope you have a solid back up plan.

❤️

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
48. No, it isn't business as usual. You can look up what Senior Executive Service means and what the National Nuclear
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:41 AM
15 hrs ago

Security Administration is, if you are curious.

Bottom line is, my husband is four steps away from the President in terms of the chain of command.

But I wouldn’t doubt this regime will cut all funding to all the government, soon.

Yes, we have a good backup plan and about a million and a half in savings which we hope will enable us to move to a lower cost of living nation, and survive. Our passports are valid.

I figure we have as good a hope of surviving as the next person. Which admittedly is maybe not all that good.

NNSA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

SES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
54. Your husband's position and your status are not the issues here.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:26 AM
14 hrs ago

It's whether or not you both are going to put your lives and futures into the hands of a crook and a psychopath.

All of the money in the world doesn't insure you will be treated fairly or that past promises to you or anyone will be honored going forward.

Besides, if you don't have all that cash cut into incremental scattered amounts when he abolishs the FDIC your circumstances could rapidly change.

But that's not the point. That we are even debating this is nonsensical.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
55. What is your advice for all of us in the USA, including yourself (I presume), then? To cash in and move out now?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:29 AM
14 hrs ago

My husband and I both took an oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

My husband is doing important work that matters not only to our nation, but to the world as a whole.

Are you advising us to quit and move out of the country now?

To give up the fight and surrender?

Are you advising all of us to quit resisting right now and play dead?

So do you live in the United States? I’m beginning to think perhaps you do not. We do have posters here from foreign nations.

littlemissmartypants

(26,351 posts)
59. I can't make decisions for anyone but myself and
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:39 AM
14 hrs ago

Wouldn't presume so.

My ancestors arrived here before the US was a country. The land that I inherited has been in the family for six generations. I'm not going anywhere.

I'm going to stay and fight. I intend to die trying if necessary.

Like I said earlier, good luck.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
60. Likewise, we are staying and fighting as long as possible, and my husband will continue his work as long as possible in
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:43 AM
14 hrs ago

Service to America.

I wish you…and all of us….good luck too.

sop

(12,180 posts)
28. How much would it take to pay off Trump to stop destroying stuff and leave America alone?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:11 AM
16 hrs ago

Just admit Trump is running a mob protection racket scheme, telling Americans "hey, too bad if something really bad happens to your country..."

Walleye

(37,181 posts)
32. I actually think the hatred is more important to him than the money at this point, he just uses the money as a weapon
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:27 AM
16 hrs ago

Deminpenn

(16,432 posts)
29. SIP/VERA
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:19 AM
16 hrs ago

Special incentive program and voluntary early retirement are actual federal programs for trimming the career civil service workforce.

Under them, career civil servants can get a bonus, like around 15k, to retire early. It's usually targeted to specific series that the agency has too many of like clerks, for example. Sometimes there are age and service time eligibility restrictions, too like age 50 with 20 years in. Not sure if there's a pension penalty under FERS like there was under CSRS for retiring under age 55.

Lonestarblue

(12,155 posts)
30. The federal workforce is not bloated. It is only 1.9% of the total civilian workforce.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:23 AM
16 hrs ago

Since 2000, the federal workforce has grown modestly, but in 2000 federal workers were serving a population of 281,421,906. Today they are serving a population of well over 331 million. In reality, we need more federal workers, especially at the IRS and the USPS. I suspect many workers will accept this offer because who wants to work for a deranged president.

Traildogbob

(10,432 posts)
34. Like he pays his bills!!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:29 AM
16 hrs ago

If you watched Racheal, you know where this comes from, and Vance is all in on the tech bro incel pushing this shit to rip out the government like a tumor. Then make Trump CEO of the country. And we need to end our dictator phobia. All in P2025 as well. We are at war with the billionaires and maybe should declare it to use treason punishment.
Oh right, GQP Congress has to declare. And they are the treasonous ass holes.

LiberalLoner

(10,284 posts)
41. Interesting background on Curtis Yarvin. His end game, according to him, is
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:05 AM
15 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)

To have a handful of billionaires living in cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into biofuel.

Wish I were making that up.

Traildogbob

(10,432 posts)
57. Thank you
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:31 AM
14 hrs ago

I tried to recall his name. He is a terrorist and should be charged and caged.
Rip him out like a damn tumor, then radiate the fuck out of him, throw in some chemo as well.

doc03

(37,252 posts)
35. Sounds like the company I worked for. They said if anyone over 62 retired they
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:41 AM
16 hrs ago

they would pay our pension and continue our health insurance until we became 65 and eligible for Medicare.
They filed bankruptcy a month later and I had to pay $800 a month for an almost useless health plan. I wouldn't trust
Trump with a snake.

doc03

(37,252 posts)
50. Those who stayed still got paid, got health insurance under the union contract and continued to
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:09 AM
14 hrs ago

work under another owner. The other employer was Cleveland Cliffs that eventually closed the plant.
Cleveland Cliffs happens to be the American company that will probably take over US Steel since the sale to
a Japanese company was stopped.

MichMan

(13,916 posts)
52. That sucks
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:11 AM
14 hrs ago

Why did the union contract only cover active workers and didn't cover pensions for retirees?

Bengus81

(7,712 posts)
36. Trump is a Federal worker....I'll promise him 12 months of pay IF he resigns today
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:42 AM
16 hrs ago

Do it you POS.........

MontanaMama

(24,209 posts)
53. During the campaign
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:16 AM
14 hrs ago

Russell Voght of Project 2025 said that they planned to put federal civil service workers in a place of deep trauma. Looks like their plan has commenced.0

KatyBR

(190 posts)
65. Kaine says DON'T ACCEPT TRUMP'S OFFER - He has no Authority/No Funds
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:55 PM
11 hrs ago

See https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tim-kaine-warns-federal-employees-against-taking-trumps-buyout-offer-do-not-be-fooled/


"The president has no authority to make that offer. There’s no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work. This is a guy who made this promise to contractors again and again and again when he was a private business guy. ‘Oh, come work for me on my casino.’ ‘Come work for me in a hotel.’ ‘We’re going to do a handshake. We’re going to do a contract.’ The contractor does the work. and then finds out they get stiffed.

So my message to federal employees who receive this is, yeah, the president has tried to terrorize you for about a week and then gives you a little sweetheart offer: ‘If you resign in the next week, we’re just going to pay you for doing nothing for the next seven months.’ Don’t be fooled. He’s tricked hundreds of people with that offer. If you accept that offer and resign, he’ll stiff you just like he stiffed the contractors. He doesn’t have any authority to do this. Do not be fooled by this guy."

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