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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(117,833 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:54 PM Tuesday

Trump signs 4 new executive orders, transforming military

Source: The Hill

President Trump signed a bevy of new executive orders Monday evening that have the potential to significantly transform the Defense Department (DOD).

The new orders prevent transgender people from openly serving in the military, greenlight the process of developing a missile defense shield to protect the U.S., and reinstate service members that voluntarily left or were forced out of the military over COVID-19 vaccine mandates.

Trump also penned an expected executive order that would “abolish” every diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) office within the DOD and Department of Homeland Security, the latter of which houses the U.S. Coast Guard. All four were signed late Monday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s first formal day in office.

The president revoked an executive order from his predecessor, former President Biden, penned in 2021 that allowed transgender people to serve in the military. He also directed Hegseth to set new military preparedness requirements.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-4-executive-orders-125635519.html



When I was in the Army nearly 50 years ago, we had to do a race relations class. When you have a diverse military, or any other organization for that matter, it makes sense to make sure people can work together.

Let's face it. Donny the dumbshit was a realtor, one who discriminated against people of color.
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Trump signs 4 new executive orders, transforming military (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday OP
He forgot number Five. No Narcissistic Presidents with Low I.Q. chouchou Tuesday #1
I wonder if the missile defense shield would protect Hawai'i. mahina Tuesday #2
My memory isn't short. trillions have been flushed down the Klarkashton Tuesday #3
".........missile defense with absolutely no results." I wouldn't say that EX500rider Tuesday #7
I think he is talking about ballistic missiles from China or Russia. Klarkashton Tuesday #11
Like: EX500rider Tuesday #12
Like look at the results. Klarkashton Tuesday #21
Israel covers the same area as New Jersey JT45242 Tuesday #13
I wasn't talking costs, only responding to "no results" when in fact missile defense has come a long way since Star Wars EX500rider Tuesday #16
Understood but a system like that is only as good as weakest part JT45242 Tuesday #19
Missile defense isn't usually about being 100% effective... EX500rider Tuesday #24
Maybe because I lived in southwest Ohio during cold war... JT45242 Tuesday #25
"To the thousands of Russian warheads it would be a minor inconvenience." I don't think so EX500rider Tuesday #27
The US military will be a white male only organization. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4
It could be even worse. WestMichRad Tuesday #8
Yes of course. "I swear allegiance to the emperor of the world, Our Lord Donald Trump." Irish_Dem Tuesday #9
Until we get in the shit. Strelnikov_ Tuesday #22
This is why Russia just uses troops as cannon fodder. Irish_Dem Tuesday #26
the orange asshole just made us weaker a a nation and our enemies know that. Javaman Tuesday #5
Yes Trump is damaging the US military, the most powerful fighting force in the world. Irish_Dem Tuesday #10
It's going to miserable to serve in the military tinymontgomery Tuesday #6
Are there race info requirements on tax returns? BattleRow Tuesday #14
It might be more racially "Pure" than the U.S. military has ever been. No blacks unless they are in their own companies LiberalArkie Tuesday #15
I have noticed that MANY of my fellow older veterans are MAGAts. 70sEraVet Tuesday #17
The missile defense thing angrychair Tuesday #18
It is important to understand that this is not only DJT but the white Christian fanatics who engineered proj. 2025. Ford_Prefect Tuesday #20
Just as there are no atheists in a foxhole Strelnikov_ Tuesday #23
Since the cost of this plan is back breaking Old Crank 22 hrs ago #28
Thank you for having served. COL Mustard 18 hrs ago #29

mahina

(19,288 posts)
2. I wonder if the missile defense shield would protect Hawai'i.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:59 PM
Tuesday

Guessing no. My nightmare scenario has him handing us over to his friends.

Love to all the people who dedicated their lives' work to defending us and now need defending from our own govt. This weakens us.

Klarkashton

(2,662 posts)
3. My memory isn't short. trillions have been flushed down the
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:02 PM
Tuesday

Toilet on missile defense with absolutely no results.
As I write this, I suspect that musk has some big ideas about how to steal more money.

EX500rider

(11,692 posts)
7. ".........missile defense with absolutely no results." I wouldn't say that
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:16 PM
Tuesday
On 1 October 2024, Iran launched about 200 ballistic missiles at targets in Israel, in at least two waves, the largest attack during the ongoing Iran–Israel conflict, most of the missiles from that attack against Israel were destroyed before reaching their target.

Also:
In May, Ukrainian forces shocked the world when they used the Patriot—invented in the 1970s, upgraded many times since—to down a Russian hypersonic Kinzhal, a missile Putin had touted as “invincible”

And:
Apr 14, 2024 — USS Carney (DDG-64) and USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) shot down between four and six Iranian-launched ballistic missiles

JT45242

(3,072 posts)
13. Israel covers the same area as New Jersey
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:42 PM
Tuesday

The sheer scope of the system would cost tens of trillions of dollars.

EX500rider

(11,692 posts)
16. I wasn't talking costs, only responding to "no results" when in fact missile defense has come a long way since Star Wars
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:44 PM
Tuesday

JT45242

(3,072 posts)
19. Understood but a system like that is only as good as weakest part
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:54 PM
Tuesday

Of course maybe only protecting the confederacy is the plan.

Sort of hunger games style.

Yeah it can work but at what cost at that scale...which begs can it work at that scale?

EX500rider

(11,692 posts)
24. Missile defense isn't usually about being 100% effective...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:23 PM
Tuesday

...it's more about creating uncertainty in a enemy's mind about their ability to service targets effectively, making them less likely to try it in the first place.

JT45242

(3,072 posts)
25. Maybe because I lived in southwest Ohio during cold war...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:28 PM
Tuesday

We knew that within 50 miles of my house growing up that the Russians had at least 7 warheads aimed at us. There were at least 3 likely targets (GE jet engine plant for example within 5 miles of my house)

So unless it is nearly 100 percent effective it is useless to a foe with resources.

To Hamas, Iran, etc with small missile stockpiles it can make a difference.

To the thousands of Russian warheads it would be a minor inconvenience. Especially since old mango Mussolini will slip where the weaknesses are to foreign agents to prove he knows what is going on.

EX500rider

(11,692 posts)
27. "To the thousands of Russian warheads it would be a minor inconvenience." I don't think so
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:07 PM
Tuesday

Russia is estimated to possess roughly 5,977 nuclear warheads, of which 1,588 are actively deployed.

They have to worry about their launch success rate where up to 1/3 of their 306 strategic ICBMs carrying up to 1,185 nuclear warheads may not make it to orbit, so 800+- warheads, then they have to worry about missile accuracy on the never tried polar route over the magnetic North pole making multiple warheads per target necessary, then they have to worry about detonation success rate on aged semi-maintained warheads, add missile defense on top of that making the number of warheads making it to target & detonating even more unknown and the planning becomes a nightmare without enough warheads to guarantee any kind of success at target destruction.

btw I spent the late '70's in Wash DC, target #1



https://armscontrolcenter.org/fact-sheet-russias-nuclear-inventory

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
4. The US military will be a white male only organization.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 03:09 PM
Tuesday

Others will be harassed out of the military.

WestMichRad

(1,964 posts)
8. It could be even worse.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:20 PM
Tuesday

Expect that enlistees will be required to sign a loyalty oath … loyalty to the Rump.

Strelnikov_

(7,875 posts)
22. Until we get in the shit.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Tuesday

Then they will draft non—whites, poor whites, and wonder why our military now sucks, like Russia’s

In that there is no cohesion, esprit de corps.


Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
26. This is why Russia just uses troops as cannon fodder.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:29 PM
Tuesday

And has a very high casualty rate.

The US in contrast has a low casualty rate in combat because it is well trained
and uses brains not braun when it can. And can foster high moral with a diverse group
because they are well trained.

But yes the goal is to model the US after Russia in every aspect of life.

Javaman

(63,275 posts)
5. the orange asshole just made us weaker a a nation and our enemies know that.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:35 PM
Tuesday

they are watching our democracy circle the drain and they are salivating.

Irish_Dem

(62,129 posts)
10. Yes Trump is damaging the US military, the most powerful fighting force in the world.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:25 PM
Tuesday

This impacts national security in a huge way.

Who benefits?

tinymontgomery

(2,715 posts)
6. It's going to miserable to serve in the military
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 04:47 PM
Tuesday

It's going to miserable to serve in the military if you even show a liberal bent.

LiberalArkie

(16,997 posts)
15. It might be more racially "Pure" than the U.S. military has ever been. No blacks unless they are in their own companies
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:43 PM
Tuesday

Naturally no gays as they are new to it.
No women. I wonder if they will bring back the WACS.
Probably no people of a foreign heritage.

70sEraVet

(4,307 posts)
17. I have noticed that MANY of my fellow older veterans are MAGAts.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:49 PM
Tuesday

I would guess that one reason could be that while in the service, we lived a rather insulated life -- we didn't have to learn to live and work with women, gays or transexuals. As Yo-Mama reminded me, we did have to take Race Relations classes, as some of the new recruits had never SEEN a black person except on TV!
My point is, after leaving the military, many of us were completely unprepared for civilian life, where we were usually expected to work with the general public -- sometimes even working FOR people who were outside our comfort zone.
I think many of my fellow veterans were unable to make that adjustment. As a result, they became embittered, and blamed the people they couldn't adjust to. So, I am sure that those veterans are applauding these EOs.
And the result will be a less effective military, and an endless supply of embittered veterans.

angrychair

(10,035 posts)
18. The missile defense thing
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 05:53 PM
Tuesday

Shows that he has little understanding of his own DOD. We literally already have a whole DOD agency called Missile Defense Agency and one of the most advanced missile defense systems in the world.

Ford_Prefect

(8,258 posts)
20. It is important to understand that this is not only DJT but the white Christian fanatics who engineered proj. 2025.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:01 PM
Tuesday

We should start publishing the names and faces behind the White House directives so that people can distinguish between the Clown Prince of Distraction and the real actors in the Coup. I know that DJT is in synch with 2025, but the real minds behind it who are writing the directives and instructing the agencies, who have organized and directed the specific attacks on Rule of Law and democratic governance, who have hidden away inside the Heritage Foundation and other conservative think tanks, need to take responsibility for their actions and their perfidious goal to promote American ISIS.

Strelnikov_

(7,875 posts)
23. Just as there are no atheists in a foxhole
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 06:22 PM
Tuesday

There should be no race issues in a foxhole.

Unless we want a military like Russia’s.

Old Crank

(5,151 posts)
28. Since the cost of this plan is back breaking
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:44 AM
22 hrs ago

The only hope would be for Russia to collapse trying to keep up.
Or do they decide to launch first?

COL Mustard

(7,111 posts)
29. Thank you for having served.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:42 AM
18 hrs ago

The 1970s weren't exactly the good old days for the Army (I came in in 1980) but we did get better than we were.

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