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BumRushDaShow

(145,569 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 04:46 PM 4 hrs ago

Trump planning to pardon nonviolent January 6 defendants, commute the sentences of others

Source: CNN Politics

Updated 4:13 PM EST, Mon January 20, 2025


CNN — President Donald Trump is planning to pardon people convicted of nonviolent offenses related to the January 6, 2021, US Capitol attack and to commute the sentences of others convicted of more serious offenses, according to multiple sources familiar with the plan. The Justice Department also is expected to move in court to dismiss cases that have not yet gone to trial, several sources told CNN. Trump has not yet signed an executive order but is expected to do so Monday.

More than 730 people have been convicted of misdemeanor offenses in connection with January 6, according to the latest Justice Department estimates. Further, there are about 300 prosecutions still pending in court as of Monday, including many accused of violent felony crimes, such as assaulting police.

Trump has long pledged to pardon at least some of his supporters who stormed the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, disrupting the peaceful transfer of power. More than 140 police officers were injured during the seven-hour siege, which also led directly and indirectly to the deaths of four Trump supporters in the mob and five police officers.

After the attack, the Justice Department and FBI launched a nationwide manhunt to identify and arrest rioters, which turned into the biggest criminal probe in US history. Prosecutors charged more than 1,580 people and secured roughly 1,270 convictions.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/20/politics/january-6-2021-capitol-riot-pardons-trump/index.html

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Trump planning to pardon nonviolent January 6 defendants, commute the sentences of others (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 4 hrs ago OP
keep track of the names lapfog_1 4 hrs ago #1
Thats not how it works AkFemDem 4 hrs ago #2
they all cheat on their taxes lapfog_1 4 hrs ago #3
Everyone?! AkFemDem 4 hrs ago #4
the tax laws are written such that lapfog_1 1 hr ago #11
You cheat on your taxes Dumpy 2 hrs ago #7
Truly, as a wise man said, "Show me the man and I'll find you the crime." Igel 2 hrs ago #8
Actually a few people he pardoned in 2020/21 have committed new crimes mountain grammy 3 hrs ago #5
Good. liberalgunwilltravel 2 hrs ago #6
I feared a blanket pardon HereForTheParty 1 hr ago #9
And justice for all. chuckle chuckle republianmushroom 1 hr ago #10

lapfog_1

(30,345 posts)
1. keep track of the names
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 04:50 PM
4 hrs ago

in four years and 1 day we arrest them all again, charge them with new crimes... and deny bond or parole...

It's time for payback and to actually weaponize the DOJ and use it against all of these morons.

AkFemDem

(2,235 posts)
2. Thats not how it works
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 04:57 PM
4 hrs ago

If they commit crimes after today, then yes, but if its anything related to Jan 6, 2021 then it's over. Can't be retried, can't have former charges changed to reflect different charges/crimes. A pardon is a pardon.

lapfog_1

(30,345 posts)
3. they all cheat on their taxes
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:02 PM
4 hrs ago

because everyone cheats of their taxes.

Throw the book at them.

AkFemDem

(2,235 posts)
4. Everyone?!
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:05 PM
4 hrs ago

Maybe I'm just an idiot, lol, but I don't cheat on my taxes. Somehow I didn't imagine the average rank and file working class American did so- I always picture People With Money doing that. Seriously, does everyone but me do it??

lapfog_1

(30,345 posts)
11. the tax laws are written such that
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:34 PM
1 hr ago

most people that do itemized deductions run afoul of a tax ruling or other.

If you take no deductions other than the few offered by the EZ or short form you might be OK, but if not you have a good chance that, through no fault of your own or even that of your tax preparer, you could be found guilty of something.

Doesn't happen often that they come after you, but they COULD. You will spend more money defending yourself than you will if you just pay the extra tax and fine,

For example, I owned a condo in Denver when I got a job in California. I had already sunk a lot of my savings into the condo... so I thought "Hey I will just rent it out". Found a real estate person to put it up for rent. Was rented for 1 year, the renter basically trashed the place. Spent thousands more refurb. Then the market in Denver went to shit... like the rent would not even pay half the mortgage. Having had the bad experience with the renter... I left the place unrented.

I took the same deduction for my mortgage the next tax year... and I got audited. IRS claimed this was now an illegal deduction because it was NOT RENTED for the year ( I did list it for rent at my mortgage price but got 0 calls ), therefore it was now a vacation home!

So I talked to a tax attorney and he told me it would cost me another $20K to fight this in court... and I would win... or I could just pay them the tax and fine of around $18K and call it a day. I paid. If I went to court and lost... I would be out the attorney fee AND the tax and penalty and might even face jail time.

Igel

(36,412 posts)
8. Truly, as a wise man said, "Show me the man and I'll find you the crime."
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:04 PM
2 hrs ago

Then again, he wasn't all that wise. Cunning, perhaps. One can be evil and cunning just fine, I think; but I have trouble combining "wise and evil."

It was Beria, Stalin's henchman, so's credited with that bit of "payback"--although some of it was mostly "payforward".

It's very much like the Peruvians fascist's "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law." Opposite sides of the political coin, but you know, while opposite sides what's in the middle is equally part of each side.

I'm in favor of rule of law, not ruling by law.

mountain grammy

(27,456 posts)
5. Actually a few people he pardoned in 2020/21 have committed new crimes
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:28 PM
3 hrs ago

cause they're criminals.. surprise surprise!!!

6. Good.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:29 PM
2 hrs ago

And when the violent traitors are no longer under federal protection, the Capitol Police who were brutalized by them can see they face the justice they deserve.

HereForTheParty

(435 posts)
9. I feared a blanket pardon
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:17 PM
1 hr ago

I don't like it, but it could have been worse. This sends the message that even Trump acknowledges some criminality in their actions.

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