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BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:13 AM 10 hrs ago

170 House Republicans Defied Donald Trump Despite Primaries Threat

Source: Newsweek

Published Dec 21, 2024 at 5:43 AM EST


What's New

On Friday 170 House Republicans joined Democrats to approve an emergency funding bill just hours before a partial government shutdown was due to go into effect, despite President-elect Donald Trump's threat to oust any rebels.

In a post on his Truth Social website before the vote the incoming president said the move would simply "bring the mess of the Debt Limit into the Trump Administration" and said any Republicans that support it "should, and will, be Primaried." Trump had called for the federal debt ceiling to be removed or extended to 2029, neither of which featured in Friday's legislation. Newsweek contacted Donald Trump's 2024 presidential transition team for comment via email on Saturday outside of regular office hours.

Why It Matters

Friday's continuing resolution to temporarily extend government spending prevented an imminent government shutdown, which had been due to begin on Saturday. The bill passed the House by 366 votes against 34, and the Senate with 85 votes versus 11.

The recent spat over government funding has seen a significant number of House Republicans defy the incoming president, with 38 Republican rebels on Thursday joining Democrats to vote down a Trump backed funding plan which would also have suspended the debt ceiling.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/170-house-republicans-defied-donald-trump-despite-primaries-threat-2004574

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170 House Republicans Defied Donald Trump Despite Primaries Threat (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago OP
"...Republicans Defied Donald Trump..." dchill 10 hrs ago #1
I think that they were defying President Musk wnylib 8 hrs ago #20
It's a start. dchill 7 hrs ago #23
Yes, it is. Trump is too senile to function much longer. wnylib 7 hrs ago #29
Wonder what Vance is doing ? Sequoia 3 hrs ago #39
"If you can make God bleed..." Girard442 7 hrs ago #26
That's 400 votes in the House. Aside from vacancies did that many members not vote? underpants 10 hrs ago #2
Here is the House Roll Call BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #6
Wow that's a lot. underpants 10 hrs ago #9
Some are ill and/or are in treatment BumRushDaShow 9 hrs ago #10
Allred's a dem - TBF 7 hrs ago #24
Yeah BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #31
Lots of "Not voting" AllyCat 8 hrs ago #18
Wanna end Elump Traildogbob 10 hrs ago #3
.... BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #7
🤜🤛 Traildogbob 7 hrs ago #25
We can't impeach Elon. COL Mustard 9 hrs ago #12
At this point, he doesn't make as much from his cars as he does from the government trough jmbar2 8 hrs ago #19
Obviously we can't Traildogbob 7 hrs ago #21
maybe it's finally dawning on them that if they hang together, mopinko 10 hrs ago #4
Because primarying your own party in a midterm when you have the presidency is... ColinC 10 hrs ago #5
An own goal. ananda 9 hrs ago #11
Erm..... COL Mustard 9 hrs ago #13
Shooting yourself in the face perhaps? paleotn 7 hrs ago #22
Sort of like buying successful Twitter, and turning it into crappy X Walleye 7 hrs ago #33
We should all be VERY encouraged by this HereForTheParty 10 hrs ago #8
Pitchbot chorus 'How this is bad for the Democrats' in 3... 2... 1... Hugin 9 hrs ago #14
SOTH MUSK dweller 9 hrs ago #15
So up yours, President musk, VP vance and the convicted felon. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #16
A proverbial shot across the bow Zambero 8 hrs ago #17
That may not be terribly off the mark. Since the CEO shooter aftermath, it's become very apparent... paleotn 7 hrs ago #32
Keep it up kacekwl 7 hrs ago #27
BS Timewas 7 hrs ago #28
Fitzpatrick (PA 01) did the right thing Freddie 7 hrs ago #30
We need a good strong candidate to unseat him BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #34
Yes it's frustrating Freddie 7 hrs ago #36
Yeah he has found a way to do "visible bipartisanship" BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago #38
They are such amateurs when it comes to politics. I don't even think they realize people like their congressmen Walleye 7 hrs ago #35
The convicted felon said the govt. shut down was President Biden problem, correct. republianmushroom 6 hrs ago #37

wnylib

(24,701 posts)
20. I think that they were defying President Musk
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 PM
8 hrs ago

as an unelected foreigner.

House Republicans were willing to toe the Trump line when they killed the immigration bill during the campaign. But not when Musk's name and fingerprints were all over the budget bill.

wnylib

(24,701 posts)
29. Yes, it is. Trump is too senile to function much longer.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:38 PM
7 hrs ago

Musk is positioning himself to take over MAGA leadership and replace Trump. Musk might have the backing of other wealthy Republicans, maybe even of Putin.

But it won't work if MAGAs in Congress defy him and refuse to accept him as their new leader. That creates disunity in the party.

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
6. Here is the House Roll Call
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:44 AM
10 hrs ago
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024517?Page=2

NOT VOTING

Allred Democratic Texas Not Voting
Blumenauer Democratic Oregon Not Voting
Bucshon Republican Indiana Not Voting
Burgess Republican Texas Not Voting
Clyburn Democratic South Carolina Not Voting
Costa Democratic California Not Voting
Evans Democratic Pennsylvania Not Voting
Fallon Republican Texas Not Voting
Ferguson Republican Georgia Not Voting
Fletcher Democratic Texas Not Voting
Garamendi Democratic California Not Voting
Garcia, Mike Republican California Not Voting
Granger Republican Texas Not Voting
Greene (GA) Republican Georgia Not Voting
Grijalva Democratic Arizona Not Voting
Lamborn Republican Colorado Not Voting
Lieu Democratic California Not Voting
Luetkemeyer Republican Missouri Not Voting
Moulton Democratic Massachusetts Not Voting
Napolitano Democratic California Not Voting
Newhouse Republican Washington Not Voting
Pelosi Democratic California Not Voting
Phillips Democratic Minnesota Not Voting
Rodgers (WA) Republican Washington Not Voting
Steube Republican Florida Not Voting
Suozzi Democratic New York Not Voting
Waltz Republican Florida Not Voting
Wenstrup Republican Ohio Not Voting
Williams (TX) Republican Texas Not Voting


VOTED PRESENT

Crockett Democratic Texas Present

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
10. Some are ill and/or are in treatment
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:05 AM
9 hrs ago

My Congressman Dwight Evans is on that list (he had a stroke this past spring) and Raul Grijalva had been undergoing cancer treatments.

A couple on there look like it was done "on principle" like Ted Lieu and Jasmine Crockett (who voted "present" ). Most of the rest were GOPers.

TBF

(34,696 posts)
24. Allred's a dem -
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:12 PM
7 hrs ago

he was the one that we hoped could beat Ted Cruz. He's probably on winter break and I don't blame him at all. It was a merciless election here in TX.

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
31. Yeah
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:56 PM
7 hrs ago

I donated to Allred several times. It seems there are a bunch of west coast (D)s on the list too. I expect they may have figured there would be plenty of yay votes for passage of that latest version so they exited...

AllyCat

(17,203 posts)
18. Lots of "Not voting"
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:28 AM
8 hrs ago

Meaning they left without bothering so they could do their own thing. The hell with everyone else.

Traildogbob

(10,174 posts)
3. Wanna end Elump
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:32 AM
10 hrs ago

Have the 170, plus all Dems in the house then the same uniting in senate, let it be known to the blobs that one more mention of primaries and cash support again, that they have their own power to primary those two out to face a lot of felony court dates waiting to proceed.
It’s called Impeachment. Stop the damn shakedown by these two assholes. Grow a damn spine and end them both. If they are sick of being kicked around like a Trump/Noem dog, kick the fuck back. 🪼🪼🪼🪱🪱🪱🐌🐌🐌🐛🐛🐛🪰🪰🪰🕷️🕷️🕷️🪳🪳🪳🐞🐞🐞🦟🦟🦟🦑🦑🦑
These invertebrates have much more courage and brains.
If one is impeached, do they and their wives lose all future benefits and cash flow?
Why not. We get fired all that goes away.

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
7. ....
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:47 AM
10 hrs ago

LOL at this - 🪼🪼🪼🪱🪱🪱🐌🐌🐌🐛🐛🐛🪰🪰🪰🕷️🕷️🕷️🪳🪳🪳🐞��🐞🦟🦟🦟🦑🦑🦑



(sorry )

Traildogbob

(10,174 posts)
25. 🤜🤛
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:20 PM
7 hrs ago

When BumRushDaShow acknowledges you, you’ve had a fantastic day.
Thanks BRDS!
Lots more “spineless” reps in the Kingdom Anamalia.
Hell there are more spines in Kingdom’s Plantae, Fungi, Protista and Monera than the entire GQP.
The party of masculinity my ass, which is right at the bottom of my spine.
Cheers! Go Ducks! But Go Vols first!

COL Mustard

(6,969 posts)
12. We can't impeach Elon.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:24 AM
9 hrs ago

All we can do is not buy his cars and trucks...and other stuff he makes (actually that other people make for him).

jmbar2

(6,215 posts)
19. At this point, he doesn't make as much from his cars as he does from the government trough
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:28 AM
8 hrs ago

Those "rebels" could cut him off fairly easily in future budget negotiations. I hope they do.

Musk is worth an estimated $326 billion, according to Bloomberg’s real-time billionaire tracker. His companies have received “only” tens of billions from government contracts and programs.

But in other ways, virtually all of his net worth can be pinned to government help. Tesla and SpaceX got started – and survived their early days – with assistance from state and federal policies, government contracts and loans.

“The foundation for Musk’s financial success has been the US government,” said Daniel Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities.

And the value of Tesla and SpaceX doesn’t come from their profits so far.

Instead, their value comes from investments in their future worth, such as Tesla’s publicly traded stock and private funding rounds for SpaceX.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/20/business/elon-musk-wealth-government-help/index.html#:~:text=Musk%20is%20worth%20an%20estimated,be%20pinned%20to%20government%20help.

Traildogbob

(10,174 posts)
21. Obviously we can't
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:07 PM
7 hrs ago

But end Trump, Eloooon loses his grip on us. And a-statement is made to other GQP firmly up his ass.
Impeach one, the other withers and dies.
HE is the one promising millions to buy seats to primary.
HE is a bigger threat.

mopinko

(71,937 posts)
4. maybe it's finally dawning on them that if they hang together,
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:41 AM
10 hrs ago

they’re too big to hang.
it shd also dawn on them that a lot of voters have buyer’s remorse. they rly didnt vote to die.

ColinC

(10,917 posts)
5. Because primarying your own party in a midterm when you have the presidency is...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:44 AM
10 hrs ago

What do you even call that?

paleotn

(19,453 posts)
22. Shooting yourself in the face perhaps?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:08 PM
7 hrs ago

But do Donny, Elmo and Chaiwalla even understand that?

HereForTheParty

(271 posts)
8. We should all be VERY encouraged by this
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:49 AM
10 hrs ago

The Republicans control the House, but they don't. Razor thin margin that usually fractures on tough issues.

Hugin

(34,728 posts)
14. Pitchbot chorus 'How this is bad for the Democrats' in 3... 2... 1...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:29 AM
9 hrs ago


That said, it’s a rare rational decision for the Congressional Republicans for a few reasons…

- It’s a long way to the primaries. There’s many fresh Hells to come.
- Finding a viable more MAGAty challenger in many of these gerrymandered districts would be problematic and expensive. Aside from all of the hype, Trump’s crusades of primary-ing have a very low success rate.
- Incumbents are incumbents.

There’s a part of my thinking that what’s behind all of this is setting the stage for Musk to be installed as the SOTH. (That’s Speaker of the House for the acronym adjacent.)

Zambero

(9,780 posts)
17. A proverbial shot across the bow
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:27 AM
8 hrs ago

Given the negative impact of his economic policies once enacted, they see his popularity and influence waning, likely sooner than later. And I sense that they are not too keen on having a whacked out foreign-born zillionaire pulling on Dear Leader's puppet strings. So best putting them both in their "proper" place here and now. The "primary" threat will not be what it once wa with a hapless lame duck in office. GOP lifeboats at the ready, hoping not to go down with a sinking MAGA ship. I sure wish the rest of us might also escape unscathed.

paleotn

(19,453 posts)
32. That may not be terribly off the mark. Since the CEO shooter aftermath, it's become very apparent...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:57 PM
7 hrs ago

that a lot of American are extraordinarily pissed. Sometimes pissed at the right people,. Many times not. But given what billionaires have done to them in so many ways the last 40 years, they have every right to be pissed. They were pissed at us recently, in my mind partially because we failed to take credit loudly enough to overcome the rightwing, propaganda machine on the positive things were were doing. Biden is low key. That's his style. Wrong style for the times. We couldn't or wouldn't offset the Repuke lies with shouted truth.

That rage is still seething and if Donny doesn't perform as advertised, which he won't, many will turn on him like rabid dogs. Way worse than 2018 and 2020. If he spikes unemployment with a policy driven recession (Elmo and Chaiwalla stupid shit), it's going to get ugly. We need to tap into that rage. Harness it. Tough order given where we are right now as a party, but if we can accomplish it, we may well end up with enough clout to do things like the OP mentioned.

kacekwl

(7,636 posts)
27. Keep it up
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:32 PM
7 hrs ago

hopefully Republicans will honor their oath to country not a foreign dictator and his criminal pet president-elect.

Freddie

(9,736 posts)
30. Fitzpatrick (PA 01) did the right thing
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:52 PM
7 hrs ago

May he continue to do so. He’s not going to get primaried from the right here in this purple district.

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
34. We need a good strong candidate to unseat him
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:58 PM
7 hrs ago

I know it would a haul but we did briefly have the old version of that seat in 2006 & 2008 (Patrick Murphy).

Freddie

(9,736 posts)
36. Yes it's frustrating
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:00 PM
7 hrs ago

He’s like my state rep Craig Staats, can’t dislodge him no matter what. At least Fitzpatrick does the right thing sometimes, unlike most other Rs.

BumRushDaShow

(143,996 posts)
38. Yeah he has found a way to do "visible bipartisanship"
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:07 PM
6 hrs ago

but then behind the scenes is probably like 90% supporting GOP loon stuff.

Walleye

(36,353 posts)
35. They are such amateurs when it comes to politics. I don't even think they realize people like their congressmen
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:00 PM
7 hrs ago

Individual representatives are very hard to beat, because people get to know them and like them, that’s how they get elected. But if they wanna mess with a reliably red seat, I’m not gonna argue with him

republianmushroom

(18,139 posts)
37. The convicted felon said the govt. shut down was President Biden problem, correct.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:06 PM
6 hrs ago

It was his problem to deal with it, damn, he dealt with it and there will be no shutdown.

Since there will be no shutdown until possibly, after Jan 20, 2025, President Biden get the the credit for this not happening.

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