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Dem4life1970

(426 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:37 PM 5 hrs ago

The final 2024 election tally is almost in. It should end the MAGA mandate myth.

Source: MSNBC

It’s been just over two weeks since the election and, because of the pace at which California counts votes, it’s only now that we almost have the final vote tally for the entire election. And guess what?

Yes, Donald Trump won the election. He will be the next president. There’s no question about that. But it’s also one of the narrowest popular vote wins in U.S. history. He got less than half the votes cast, winning a plurality but not a majority of the popular vote.

Trump won by about 2.5 million votes out of more than 150 million cast. That means his lead over Vice President Kamala Harris in the popular vote is down to about 1.6%. In fact, when comparing Trump’s margin of victory to every presidential election going back to 2000, the president-elect boasts the smallest margin of anyone who’s actually won their election and the popular vote.

Not only was Trump’s victory historically narrow, but Democrats also did surprisingly well in down-ballot races for a “losing” side. Yes, they lost three Senate seats in Ohio, West Virginia and Montana — states that Trump won by huge margins. That’s the sort of result you expect. But Democrats also managed to eke out four Senate victories in swing states that Trump won: Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona. That’s not what you’d expect.

Read more: https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-mandate-win-agenda-rcna181039



Yes, I have joined the Morning Joe Boycott, but I am not boycotting MSNBC, too many good people there (Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O-Donnell, etc.).

I do like that as the vote totals are still being counted we are seeing Trump's lead shrink and shrink. 1.6% is not a mandate, it is a skin-of-your-teeth victory, with the corresponding swing state google searches of "How do I change my vote" and "Are tariffs bad?" leading the way.

This is helping my heart heal from a stunning 2016 feeling that I was hoping I would never feel again. This time felt different and it was deja vu all over again. Great article.
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Dem4life1970

(426 posts)
1. A little perspective on the autopsy of this election as well...
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:39 PM
5 hrs ago

So take a step back and keep all of this in mind when you hear Trump and his supporters suggest that the election was this enormous wave in which a transformation swept across the country, in which Americans were just begging for a MAGA makeover.

That is the line Republicans are selling — and lots in the mainstream media are granting it in various ways — but it’s just plainly not true. And we’ve gone through this all before. Just compare all the postmortems in the past two weeks about “what the American people really wanted” when Trump won by 1.6 points nationally to the postmortems we got in 2016, after Clinton beat him by 2.1% nationally, but lost in the Electoral College. It’s all the same stuff.

MayReasonRule

(1,800 posts)
5. Fascisim Is Delusional Which Is Why Fascists Reject Facts Instead Embracing Delusion Lest They Desroy Their Own Lies
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:47 PM
4 hrs ago

There are two types of fascists:
Machiavellian
Darwin Award Winners

This is that.

Martin68

(24,597 posts)
4. You can't end a myth if people continue to believe in it regardless of the MAGAts believe what they want and are backed
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:46 PM
4 hrs ago

electric_blue68

(17,977 posts)
7. But there are always new voters coming along each year who might be swayable in the future.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:28 PM
4 hrs ago

You never never know when a few new votes might make a difference.

calimary

(84,306 posts)
9. And that's a talking point we can use.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:39 PM
3 hrs ago

And we SHOULD be using it. As liberally as possible (pardon the pun)!

Silent Type

(6,652 posts)
8. Whichever side wins, always calls it a mandate. Unfortunately, trump and his henchmen see it as endorsement
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:30 PM
4 hrs ago

of white wing ideology and rule.

Initech

(101,900 posts)
10. Fox News can go shove their stupid mandate where it don't shine.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 12:31 AM
2 hrs ago

And it's the same place the Heritage Foundation can shove it too.

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