Trump advisers contemplating cuts to Medicaid and other welfare programs

[HereForTheParty]

Source: Guardian

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Donald Trump
Trump advisers contemplating cuts to Medicaid and other welfare programs
Further plans include blows to food stamps that could threaten millions of Americans to fund tax cut extensions


Donald Trump’s economic advisers and congressional Republicans are discussing possible cuts to Medicaid, food stamps and other government welfare programmes to cover the costs of extending the president-elect’s multitrillion-dollar 2017 tax cut.

The cuts could mean new work requirements and spending caps, according to the Washington Post, citing sources involved in the talks, including aides in Trump’s transition team.

Extending the tax cuts – most of which are due to expire next year – could add $4tn to the national debt, which already stands at $36tn.

But Republicans fear triggering a political backlash by slashing programmes that serve an estimated 70 million Americans to pay for a tax cut that disproportionately benefits the wealthy.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/18/trump-medicaid-food-stamps-welfare

[jimfields33]

1. Work requirements? He doesn't understand disability at all.

Nobody is able to work if they are on disability which is the point of the program. Dummies! If anything, they should say, you get this money to help you so you never work again. They never think.

[regnaD kciN]

4. Oh, he understands it quite well...

...or at least his advisors do.

"We've instituted a new work requirement in order to receive disability. Oh, your disability means you can't work? Too bad, so sad. Sucks to be you."

[Farmer-Rick]

23. The cruelty is the point

They want to punish poor and disabled people for existing.

The only comfort I get from such a horror is that they will be hated by a very large group of people. Disabled folks have parents, siblings and friends. On average every person has about 10 to 15 close loved ones. They will all hate the MAGAts for this.

Are they cutting military disability too? Are they forcing the guy who got severe brain trauma in W's wars to go back to work too?

Had to add that those 65 and older are the people with the most disabilities. A big chunk of them voted for Trump. The screwing of his own voters now begins..... didn't take long.

[louis-t]

26. Military disability? For "headaches"?

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah, I think Trump even said that

About head trauma injuries from the Iraqi war and all those IEDs exploding in our troop's faces. Though it wasn't just IEDs; there were other types of bombings that caused brain injuries too.

Trump always insults the military.

[NotHardly]

24. Musk & Trump getting what they "paid" for ... sucks to be the rest of us.

[cstanleytech]

10. Plus if they try they're punished as their benefits can be reduced so they're still trapped in poverty.

[Prairie Gates]

2. "Republicans fear triggering a political backlash ..."

Tell me another one.

[Skittles]

12. I know, right?

THEY DO NOT FUCKING CARE

[orangecrush]

33. Yeah like the backlash they got in the election

"Thank you Sir, may I have another?"

[Hope22]

17. They are starting with Medicaid and welfare programs to see what kind of backlash they will get.

We need to give them a huge backlash about this. Because if this goes down easy for them they will put Social Security and Medicare up for the chopping pronto! I hope there is a huge turn out for protecting the safety net of those of us who are in the hardest spot. If not we get what we deserve!

[GoodRaisin]

56. They charged out of the gate in 2017 going after the ACA with a House bill

that included gutting Medicaid by ~ 750 billion they planned to use to pay for their promised tax cuts for the rich,, then went over to the White House Rose Garden to celebrate with Trump. When they finally didn’t get it passed through both chambers of Congress their billionaire financiers demanded their tax breaks anyway, which they immediately voted for and just tacked on to the debt.

They’ll do the same thing again.

[orangecrush]

32. ...

[sakabatou]

53. The leopards keep eating their faces, yet they keep joining the club

[dflprincess]

3. Because, as always with this crowd, the cruelty is the point. nt

[Hope22]

5. Every cut to Medicaid damages the healthcare system for all Americans!

This can’t be said enough!

[larwdem]

6. Maybe more people

will start to vote after four years of this

[atreides1]

18. No they won't

The elderly who didn't vote this time will likely be dead in four years, because they didn't vote this time!

[Hope22]

21. Voting is not the answer....

We see how it turned out this time! Hard work between elections. Contacting officials local and national to stop this madness! City officials five miles from me just voted to make sleeping on public property illegal! This, an open attack on homeless people. It’s so much easier to pass the problem off. Activism is the answer! We could start with getting big money out of elections and forming some type of guidelines or recourse to political ads that are blatant lies! But no, simply voting is no longer the answer!

[Joinfortmill]

7. Of course they are, greedy arrogant, vile f*cks

[Faux pas]

8. All they care about

is stealing every dime that the US has.

[Hamlette]

9. The thing about food stamps that terrifies me . . .using them to locate "illegal aliens"

for the most part, you can only receive food stamps if you are here legally. there are many families on food stamps (snap) where there is an undocumented individual in the household. It happens a lot with "anchor babies". Dad and mom sign up the family but only request food stamps for the children who are here legally but do not request assistance for themselves. Since dad and mom are not receiving assistance, they do not need to prove they are documented. Everyone knows the cases with children only are almost certainly families with an undocumented individual living in the house, usually as the head of household.

For years we fought with the federal government/Congress to keep these cases secret. In my state some red neck employees sent a list of all of those cases to the news media. Luckily the media did not publish the names or send them to the feds. The employee were fired.

With a Trumper as head of Agriculture, the feds are going to require the states turn over the names of those families where one or more family members are "not on the case"

That is how they will identify "illegals" and deport them. And the children? Since they have no tie to the country their parents are from, they might not be able to go with their parents when deported. they will go into foster care.

The other thing is the chilling effect. If Trump successfully gets the names, families with and undocumented member in the family will stop applying for food stamps. Kids go hungry. So sad and short sighted.

[louis-t]

27. It won't be long until the 'military' will be kicking down doors.

More likely they will be 'Proud Boys'.

[choie]

54. Add to this another issue facing immigrants

the "public charge" policy for non citizen immigrants who receive SNAP, Medicaid etc that he implemented during his last presidency will be reinstated.

[Jimvanhise]

11. A BACKLASH??!!

Perhaps someone should clue them in to the fact that if the administration makes cuts in medicare or social security that no Republican will ever be elected again in the United States.

[atreides1]

19. No

Once again the expectation that there is going to be another election, needs to be tempered by realizing that there may not be another election!

Trump plans to remain in the White House as long as possible.

[HereForTheParty]

41. That's what we thought about Roe v Wade

And they won anyway.

[ReRe]

13. This is how it is

If they cut food stamps, people will actually starve to death because as helpless as they are, they would rather die than beg.
If they cut food stamps, soon we will be seeing pictures of emaciated children right here in the US. White children among them.
If they cut food stamps, the crime rate will soar because desperate hungry people will have no alternative in order to exist.
If they cut food stamps, their health will plummet.
And if they have no healthcare (Medicaid or Medicare), they will die.

If this all does come to pass, we'll see tent clinics and tent kitchens pop up all over this country.

All this and we haven't even heard what they're going to do to HUD. That's one they will probably eliminate altogether too, which will put them on the street or what? in garages?

[The Madcap]

35. As if they care

It's purging the weak. They look at them as animals, not human beings.

[ReRe]

42. You're right!

They. Don't. Care. Period. They have no conscience, much less know the meaning of it.
No empathy. None. Zip. How many of us can say we have actually rubbed elbows with one of
these reptiles? The closest I can say I have come to are Republicans. They are in my family!
They call themselves Christians, yet vote with the Corporatocracy. They must be color blind,
because they don't appear to have noticed the red letters in the New Testament.

I am not a practicing Protestant, but all I learned from the religion when I was a kid stuck with me.
I am a Christian in my heart thru and thru. Not too crazy about "God" in the Old Testament, but
I do believe there was a good man that walked this earth whom we know as Jesus and he had some
pretty damn good ideas that mankind ought to listen to and abide by. And for goodness sake, I have
ALWAYS believed in the separation of Church and State!!!

The inability, for whatever reason, to feel empathy is one if not the biggest problem(s) in this
Capitalistic society. And don't anyone call me the C word because I do appreciate Capitalism.
It's just gone too damn far. Too many are in want in this so-called "Richest Nation on Earth".
I digress.

[C0RI0LANUS]

14. The GOP elite doesn't care about the poor, the hungry or the sick. They are the Lords of the Feudal States of America.

Here is a line at a food bank:


Source: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/long-lines-food-banks-country-70095921

Below is a Chicago homeless shelter:



Thousands line up for free medical care in LA. (WABC news)

[Deminpenn]

15. Rs think only AfAm or other minorities get this kind of welfare,

but there are plenty, even a majority, of white folks living in rust belt towns and rural areas who use them as well. I'd bet that group contains a lot of Trump/R voters. Then there are the families of people living in nursing homes where medicaid picks up the tab. What happens to their loved ones?

Trumpers don't think beyond their noses when they propose policies.

[Hope22]

20. Eventually if we live long enough we all get there!

I had a wonderful friend, 101 years old, she was in assisted living. She called me on the phone distraught and verified that I would be there to see her that evening. When I walked in the room she handed me a letter. It was from Medicaid letting her know that she had been accepted into the program. She was mortified and certain it was a mistake. In her mind Medicaid was for the hopeless folks that had nothing. She did not want Medicaid and said her great nephew must have signed her up for this. I read the letter, turned the pages and told her this sounded like a good program and she should use it. She’s like..’Really??Are you sure??? Well only if you say so!!’ My heart broke for her, a retired nurse for almost 40 years….she was bound to run out of money some day…99% of us are. We need to stand up for these programs. They are lifesavers for so many. Annie was an amazing soul born in 1909! A true inspiration!

[Evolve Dammit]

37. Thanks for sharing and being there for her.

[Hope22]

39. It was a pleasure.

She’s still an angel and looks out for us! 🙏🏼💗💗

[Evolve Dammit]

49. That is so heartfelt.

[ReRe]

43. Thank you Hope22

for sharing that poignant experience. It forced a torrent of giant tears from my eyes.

[radical noodle]

16. Many of them voted for him

Another example of being careful what you wish for.

[AllaN01Bear]

46. ding. this . eggsxtlly.

[radical noodle]

47. Also known as...

if you don't listen, you gotta feel.

[NotHardly]

22. I feel like I'm watching the pre-qual to V the movie.

[republianmushroom]

25. The pain is going to be interesting.

[JohnSJ]

29. Because that is what "Jesus" would do

[Vinca]

30. Of course they are. Force every embryo to become a baby a woman can't afford and then starve it.

They all spout the Bible (which can be yours for the low, low price of $69.99) and, in the Trump Bible, it must have something about starving the little children.

[CousinIT]

31. Hit the poorest, sickest, and most destitute/disabled to fund tax cuts for billionaires

No surprises there. pfft.

[Oopsie Daisy]

34. We have a loved one in memory care that is supplemented in large party by Medicaid *

* her humble SS and Federal Retirement benefits would never cover the actual cost. I wonder what will happen to her if Medicaid is cut or has "work requirements".

Will she be kicked out? Will she be moved to a cheaper facility? Perhaps they'll move her to a regular-care floor rather than a memory-care floor? Or they'll have to triple-up and put three to a room?

[erronis]

36. Over My Dead Body!

Yes. That is their intent.

[Attilatheblond]

38. I've been sayin, for DECADES, that if you aren't healthy/strong enough to be exploited/abused

The top tier Capitalists want you to just friggen die already.

[Escape]

40. I support a work requirement....

for Donald Trump and all of his kids.

They've never tried working. It might be kinda fun to watch.

[ReRe]

44. Your idea could be

made into a movie. One that everyone in the country would have access to,
free of charge, edibles and drinks included. It'd have a catchy tune like
"Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" chiming in intermittently. It would be
"Hillary-ous.."

[AllaN01Bear]

45. what about those who absoluty cant work. and wait till you try to put ur disabled son or daughter on it.

[cstanleytech]

48. The Trump voters are about to learn that there are consequences for putting Trump back in office.

[The Madcap]

50. Doctor Oz for Medicare and Medicaid?

You have absolutely got to be kidding me. Just kill me now so I don't have to watch the disintegration of the U.S. This is just unacceptable.

[Ocelot II]

51. The leopards will be eating well next year.

[Callie1979]

52. Their tiny minds think this will just affect poor minorities.

Wait till the poor whites who voted for him figure it out

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

55. Of course

There are billionaires who need another tax cut.