'This is Life or Death': Former HHS Sec. Kathleen Sebelius Says Trump's RFK Jr. Nomination May 'End Up Killing People'

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: MEDIAite

Nov 16th, 2024, 7:34 pm


Former Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius said on MSNBC Saturday that if Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s does take over as head of HHS, it could “end up killing people.”

Earlier this week, President-elect Donald Trump nominated Kennedy to lead HHS, sparking controversy amongst lawmakers and media pundits. For decades, Kennedy has held anti-vaccine beliefs, including about the Covid-19 vaccine.

During an interview on Saturday with MSNBC anchor Jonathan Capehart, Sebelius claimed that Kennedy’s anti-vaccine beliefs are “totally disqualifying” for him to lead the agency while adding that his nomination is “life or death.”

I think that we’re talking about magnitudes of danger beyond erroneously making legal decisions. This is life or death. The HHS affects people from birth to their grave and is intimately connected with every state in the country. So this could be very dangerous. I think it’s totally disqualifying for anyone who seeks to lead the major health agency in this country and one of the leaders in the world to just unequivocally say there is no safe and effective vaccine.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/this-is-life-or-death-former-hhs-sec-kathleen-sebelius-says-trumps-rfk-jr-nomination-may-end-up-killing-people/

[sop]

1. Trump was responsible for the deaths of hundred of thousands of Americans during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Now he's delegating that job to RFK Jr.

[Lovie777]

2. GQP don't care....

It won’t be them nor their family and friends so they think.

Just like they don’t care about women and infant morality from Abortion bans.

[Lonestarblue]

3. Those who voted for Trump chose him to destroy the government, the deep state.

They gave him full control of Congress so that he would have no pushback there. Given the blatant partisanship of the Supreme Court, he may well have little or no pushback there. Whoever becomes Secretary of Defense will have one job—get rid of all military leaders loyal to the Constitution and democratic governance and replace them with people who will follow Trump’s every order without question, no matter how crazed or illegal.

The media is still treating Trump as a normal president and keeping their heads in the sand about what he obviously plans to do.

[shotten99]

4. Thune has stated that the filibuster will not be removed from procedural rules.

It’s a bit frightening to think that this is the only safeguard left in the federal government.

[NNadir]

5. Not "may," will. Goodbye to the NIH.

[LisaM]

24. Yes, that was being generous.

RFK is a font of half-truths.

[Mike 03]

6. And what will happen to the FDA?

They have a great website. They also oversee and warn about recalls, everything from dog food and nutraceuticals to impurities in pharmaceuticals.

[LiberalArkie]

17. Looking to Jan 21th... What is an FDA?

[HUAJIAO]

20. Food and Drug Administration

[Evolve Dammit]

29. Not in 2025/6.

[HUAJIAO]

35. What is it?

[Evolve Dammit]

36. Don't know. They want to burn it all down. We shall see, but should be more clear in next two years.

[The Madcap]

38. New Saying - "When you want to try to burn it all down...

you'd better make sure there's no gasoline on your clothes."

[Evolve Dammit]

40. yep

[Irish_Dem]

7. The point is to cause deaths, injury, suffering.

Part of terrorizing and weakening the country.

Trump killed 1 million people during covid.
Probably trying to break his old record.

[Punx]

22. Agreed

It's a FEATURE, not a BUG.

[Evolve Dammit]

30. Yep.

[bmichaelh]

8. Trump is incompetent on multiple levels

I am a lymphoma survivor; I was first diagnosed in 1990; I am in my third remission.

It returned in 2019.
I went through 4 different type of treatments over 2 years. All failed.
The 5th treatment was successful.

For me to reach, remission, a minimum of 3 things had to happen.

The ACA was approved in 2010 giving me lifetime limits protections.
The drug I used to achieved remission received fast-track approval by FDA in 2020.
My healthcare provider successfully appealed denial of same drug by my insurer.

Trump and his appointees put me at risk by at least 2 levels:
Affordable Care Act
Food and Drug Administration

RFK Jr has no business near the FDA.

[Clouds Passing]

9. R party has chosen to be all in on the side of mass deaths.

[Martin68]

10. Yes, it is obvious to anybody who is paying attention the RFK is throwing a monkey wrench into the safeguards against

threats to national health and epidemic response systems.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Trump told RFKjr "to go have some fun" as head of HHS.

The point is to throw as many monkey wrenches as possible into national health systems.

[PortTack]

11. the impox virus is now in CA...nasty disease 4-10% death rate. With a non science dude in position...oh gawd

Here we go again.

[Irish_Dem]

32. Those of who survived the first pandemic may not survive the second one.

[PatSeg]

12. Duh, no kidding

How many deaths from Covid could be attributed to Trump, his administration, and their policies? It will come of no surprise that a new Trump administration will "end up killing people".

[Prairie Gates]

13. May? MAY?

Good Lord, she's an optimist, eh?

[ananda]

14. No, they absolutely will end up killing people.

Period

[louis-t]

15. They really don't care. Ideologues only care about their ideology.

If all of their stupid ideas were to be implemented, they would call it a utopia. The rest of the world would call it Hellscape.

[Autumn]

16. This is what the people who voted for him wanted.

[poozwah]

18. chaos

more disease equals more chaos which is the aim of these people. as people become ill, they will blame it on a villain as yet unnamed, but one can guess it won’t be white males.

[C0RI0LANUS]

19. GQP: Cult of Death

The GQP seems to somehow benefit from useless American deaths from either non-vaxxing, insane gun laws, de-regulation, lack of medical insurance, or military misadventures.

For example, the Trump/Vance response to US school shootings: "Get over it" or "it's a fact of life." Another DU-er posted the incredible number of preventable COVID deaths under #45.

Now a non-Vaxxer may lead HHS.

This is not to knock any profession in the US whatsoever and I mean no offense to anyone. Many of my friends are progressive attorneys, so I ask this rhetorically:

Are the majority of lawyers who handle the estates of deceased people in probate court Republicans? Are the majority of funeral parlor owners in the US Republicans? Are the majority of health insurance company CEOs Republicans? Are the majority of firearms company CEOs Republicans?

Seems to me that a select sector of the US economy simply benefits from useless American deaths which will continue unabated.

Again, I mean no offense to any attorneys or undertakers on DU.

[The Madcap]

39. It could be called

"Passive Genocide"

[C0RI0LANUS]

41. Thank you. "Passive genocide" meaning "passive self-national suicide" is what I am resolving in my thought process.

The Broederbond in Suid-Afrika realized to save the Boer people they had to relinquish power to Mr. Nelson Mandela. Dr. Bernard (D/BOSS) and President P. W. Botha negotiated the end of brutal apartheid and saved the Boers, Anglos, Xhosas, and Zulus from an extinctive civil war.

How are the Republicans in the USA saving white people from "passive genocide" by allowing 42,000 gun deaths a year or refusing vaccines?

This boggles the mind. White people are not invulnerable to bullets or disease like Superman.

Thank you again for the term which I shall explore.

[Solly Mack]

21. Yes, but we should try to understand their feelings about why they want people to die.

It will help us grow as people until their votes and their policies kill us.

[kimbutgar]

23. I just don't get why someone who has no medical training and degree is eligible to be in charge of the HHS

[larwdem]

25. you think!

[sakabatou]

26. You mean killing MORE people

Dump already fucked it up when the pandemic first hit.

[3catwoman3]

27. No may about it.

I know this is largely preaching to the choir. Vaccination is one of the, if not the most effective public health measure known to the human race.

Good current article from October 27, 2024 in Nature -

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03412-3#:~:text=The%20Lancet%20study%20found%20that,problems%20that%20many%20diseases%20cause.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. well. 45's response and lies to the pandemic cost tens of thousands of lives, so yeeeaaahhh.

[Harker]

33. The question isn't "if", but "how many." n/t

[Danmel]

34. My children were followed for 15 years

In an NIH research program for genetic research. It was incredibly helpful and everyone there is so compassionate and caring. People come from all over the world for care and for hope. I'm so depressed.

[Firestorm49]

37. "Life or death"? Do you mean like the so and so's

Covid policy - or non-policy?