Michael Flynn says Mar-a-Lago staff should be subjected to polygraph tests to catch Trump cabinet pick 'leaker'

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Independent

Tuesday 12 November 2024 21:48 GMT


Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn is calling for Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago staff to be subjected to polygraph tests after a series of press reports about the incoming president’s cabinet picks. Flynn, who briefly served in the Trump administration, made the remarks on X/Twitter on Tuesday in response to a tweet by controversial far-right activist Laura Loomer.

“It would be very easy to catch someone doing this. Give everyone that is there a one question poly (this is very easy to do). Ask them one question, “have you communicated with any media outlets in the past week?” You’ll see the leaks disappear,” Flynn said in response to a tweet by Loomer, a hard-right conspiracy theorist who traveled with Trump on the campaign trail.

On Monday, The New York Times reported that Trump had nominated Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio to serve as his secretary of state. CNN reported that he’d also selected South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem to serve as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Both of the outlets cited unnamed sources familiar with the president’s thinking.

Reacting to news of the apparent leaks, Loomer wrote on X: “Why are people inside Mar-a-Lago leaking Trump’s possible cabinet picks to the media? Not a good sign that things are being leaked already. People should be respecting President Trump’s privacy and the privacy of the transition team.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-flynn-leaks-trump-cabinet-b2645900.html

[Grokenstein]

1. Do the family first. Start with dementia donnie.

[multigraincracker]

2. Polygraph test are easy to cheat.

Truth serum or torture.

More up his alley.

[Farmer-Rick]

16. Yeah, I was thinking torture would be more efficient

Well, not efficient unless you're W or Cheney. But more fun for MAGAts. And since a lot of his staff is Hispanic, he can deport them afterwards.

If they record the torture sessions Trump can rewind it and watch it over and over again. Like he did with his attack on the Capitol.

[Mosby]

29. One, there is no such thing as "truth serum"

Two, polygraphs do not detect deception.

It's pseudoscience used by cops. That's it.

[multigraincracker]

48. I took and passed a polygraph test against a cop.

She refused to take it and the property in question, magically turned up.
The tech that gave me the test asked the most embarrassing question to begin the session. I answered them. He explained to me that 90% of those that take the test confessed after being asked those questions. I just focused on my breathing and the needle never moved. He said I passed, but he didn’t believe me. He worked for the police.
Just goes to show.

[notroot]

3. Whatever. More outrage farming.

The media can go fuck itself with a razor-wrapped baseball bat for all I give a fuck.

[notroot]

4. It's all outrage, now. All of it. Everything.

Just one outrage after another. There's no sorting them by priority.

When everything is a priority, then NOTHING is a priority.

[orangecrush]

27. THIS X 1000

[Faux pas]

5. Yeah

and flynn should be hung for treason.

[Marthe48]

11. right along with traitor

right now.

[Faux pas]

32. His whole

previous "administration" and most of the magat congress effers. Lol might as well dip into the supreme court too. Let's have a field day

[TomWilm]

6. Most scientists agree that there is little basis for the validity of this

Most psychologists and other scientists agree that there is little basis for the validity of polygraph tests.

A particular problem is that polygraph research has not separated placebo-like effects (the subject's belief in the efficacy of the procedure) from the actual relationship between deception and their physiological responses. One reason that polygraph tests may appear to be accurate is that subjects who believe that the test works and that they can be detected may confess or will be very anxious when questioned. If this view is correct, the lie detector might be better called a fear detector.

Without a better theoretical understanding of the mechanisms by which deception functions, however, development of a lie detection technology seems highly problematic. For now, although the idea of a lie detector may be comforting, the most practical advice is to remain skeptical about any conclusion wrung from a polygraph.

American Psychological Association
https://www.apa.org/topics/cognitive-neuroscience/polygraph

[travelingthrulife]

10. The point is to terrorize.

These people want nothing to do with truth. If they were hooked up they would probably start the lie detector on fire.

[Farmer-Rick]

17. Yeah, I took a lie detector test once.

The guy was just practicing. So, it was all just normal questions like do you have curly hair? Do you eat bread?

I failed miserably. Seems I was nervous and everything I said came out as a lie. Also the straps and clips weren't tight enough. He kept readjusting them.

[Mosby]

30. You didnt fail, the guy was fucking with you.

Changes in breathing, heart rate, skin conductivity don't have a fucking thing to do with deception. You could wire a person up and ask them where they were born, let's say they say "Mars". None of those measures will change, because the entire polygraph control question technique is a fraud.

It's basically a interrogation mind-fuck technique used by cops. If it "works" it's because people believe it works

[Farmer-Rick]

31. Good to know

All the these years I thought I had done something strange in answering.

[C_U_L8R]

7. If you want to find the leaker

Start with the one in the diaper.

[travelingthrulife]

8. This traitor should be drawn and quartered.

n/t

[taxi]

9. Yea, because the problem isn't where or with whom these discussions were held.

Clearly it is the fault of the bus buy or the server. Oh, mea culpa, the coffee boy.

[Vinca]

12. Do they have a Spanish speaking polygraph operator? I imagine Trump properties are filled with

the people he purports to hate so much. Will he raid his own golf clubs?

[Farmer-Rick]

18. Yeah, when he was chanting

Mass Deportations, I always wondered if he was going to include his own staff.

[ck4829]

13. Pathological liar Michael Flynn?

That Michael Flynn?

[jmbar2]

14. Neither tRump or Musk have any filters

NT

[area51]

15. US Traitor Mischa Mike Flynn sez what? n/t

[Solly Mack]

19. Twenty paranoid people together in a room. Soon the knives come out.

[33taw]

20. Why does he need to announce it. Just go for it.

[tonekat]

21. What, they think they're CSI now?

What a joke.

[Jacson6]

22. Oh no! Send everyone to Clearwater, FL to be screened by a Scientology e-meter.

It is much more reliable!

[Mz Pip]

23. No water boarding?

That’s what I would expect from Flynn.

[VeryProgressive]

24. No

That’s not how polygraphs administered. You can’t ask just one question as you have to have other questions by which to use as a baseline.

[orangecrush]

25. Why is this asshole not in prison?

Forget I asked.

[tanyev]

26. Lots of leaks in Trump's first term, too.

How about you start with all the people from that time that are still around, OK, Mikey?

[Martin68]

28. Excellent! Love it when the paranoia level goes up.

[Autumn]

33. They should be drug tested too.

[Miguelito Loveless]

34. It begins...

Disloyalty will be punished severely.

[Joe_Gadway]

35. Start with Flynn!

Michael Flynn should be polygraphed and asked about collusion with Russia in 2016.
Better yet: "Have you ever committed any crimes we don't know about yet?"
And go from there.

[Harker]

36. How long before, "we have ways to make you talk" comes back into common usage? n/t

[Hekate]

40. Soon, soon. The whole playbook has already been translated from the original German...

Make sure you carry your papers with you.

[Harker]

41. My wife's parents were born in Nazi Germany...

and they might well die in Nazi America.

[Hekate]

43. We know

[Harker]

45. Thought that was news. Sorry! n/t

[Hekate]

49. I didn't know about you as an individual. I meant it in the sense that my husband's family as well...

His late mother came from Austria; his late father from Poland. My husband and his brothers were born in Belgium after WWII — their parents met after the slaughter was over. They came to NY in the 1950s.

So — we know.

[Harker]

54. Ah, I see.

My in-laws were in the Kassel area as children, heavily bombed on account of heavy industry and the object of house to house combat and armored counterattacks in April of 1945. His legs were badly burned in a bombing raid, and he's still traumatized by what he saw in the hospital.

They came to New York in the late 50s.

Such horror.

[ffr]

37. This is going to go well with the military.

It will have a chilling effect throughout our military rank and file.

Good job America. You couldn't bring yourself to vote for the lady, AGAIN! You fucked yourself and all of us!

[red dog 1]

38. K&R

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[Hekate]

39. Two prime suspects for loose lips: the Orange Monster & the Muskrat

Start there, Flynn

[IcyPeas]

42. My guess is everybody at Mar-a-lardo were talking about this.

Why blame the staff?

[Hekate]

44. Exactly. Trump is the man who carried on an emergency meeting not in a SCIF ...

…but in the outdoor dining room over dinner with the Japanese delegation, in sight and hearing of all Trump’s Mar A Lago guests, and the guests were allowed to photograph the papers on the table…

And that was just part of the opening act of Trump’s first term.

Why blame the staff, except they are easy pickings to brutalize?

[Javaman]

46. where is George Castanza when you need him?

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[Javaman]

47. dupe

[PedroXimenez]

50. don't be mad at Trump for the picks that are unpopular with the base, be mad at the imaginary leakers

get ready, this will happen through Trump's entire term.

[Karasu]

51. Why the fuck does Michael Flynn...

...still have a platform?

[CentralMass]

52. There is no honor among thieves.

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[JohnnyRingo]

53. And waterboarding! How can he forget that?

That man is vile.

[LiberalFighter]

55. There are several options I would apply on Flynn

[jmowreader]

56. Start with Donald Trump, okay?

There's a decent chance Trump "leaked" the names himself as a means of owning the libs.

[Oliver Bolliver Butt]

57. "Ask them one question"

With one question, you'll have no control sample against which to judge whether the answer to that question is truthful. Just another thing that happens when you put morons in charge, I guess.