Millions at risk of losing health insurance after Trump's victory

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: NBC News

Nov. 7, 2024, 4:22 PM EST


Millions of Americans risk losing subsidies next year that help them pay for health insurance following President-elect Donald Trump’s election win and Republicans’ victory in the Senate.

The subsidies — which expire at the end of 2025 — came out of the 2021 American Rescue Plan, and increased the amount of assistance available to people who want to buy health insurance through the Affordable Care Act. The American Rescue Plan also broadened the number of people eligible for subsidies, extending them to many in the middle class.

The looming expiration date means that the incoming Congress and next president will need to decide whether to extend them — something Trump and Republicans have already signaled they don’t support, said Chris Meekins, a health policy research analyst at the investment firm Raymond James.

“If Republicans end up winning the House, in addition to the Senate and White House, having a GOP sweep, I think the odds are less than 5% they get extended,” said Meekins, who was a senior HHS official in Trump’s first term. Even Democratic control of the House likely won’t save the subsidies, he added.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/millions-risk-losing-health-insurance-trumps-victory-rcna179146

[JohnSJ]

1. Well if that happens they have no one to blame but themselves. 100 million eligible voters didn't even bother to vote,

and the rogan fan boys don't get sick anyway.

However, they will have made the 1% richest people even richer.

[Ms. Toad]

8. "they" include millions who voted for Harris,

Like my daughter, who has $200,000 in medical expenses each and every year - on a $40,000 a year income, in years when she isn't hospitalized and forced to take time off without pay. She was hospitalized 5 times in the last 13 months.

So stop with this "they" crap.

[AllyCat]

10. The poster is talking about the non-voters.

I’m sorry to hear about your daughter’s health struggles. It sounds like a nightmare and very frightening.

[wolfie001]

25. JohnSJ specifically mentioned the non-voters

Please direct your anger at the proper people.

[Ms. Toad]

31. **AFTER** declaring, without qualification, that "they"

had no one to blame but themselves, he commented that a bunch of them didn't even bother to vote. But many did, and those who did vote for Harris, as opposed to Trump, Stein or not at all are blameless.

[wolfie001]

41. We're all on the same team and mad about the turn of events

I'm moving on to the next challenge. Best of luck to you

[C Moon]

2. And you know a large swath of that will be idiots who checked the trump box on their ballot.

[William Seger]

3. Can't paint all trumpers with a single stroke

... but fucking idiots is surely an over-represented subgroup.

[MayReasonRule]

4. The GOP Is An Ongoing Criminal Enterprise Dedicated To Establishing A Forever Fasicst Regim

There are two types of GOP members both of them criminal:

The Machiavellian
The Darwin Award Winners

Those that support the same are the same.
They're the same.

[William Seger]

5. Yep, it's the Fascist-Fucking-Idiot Coalition

[Ray Bruns]

11. Sure you can. Like this. All trumpers are horrible people

Because they voted for a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

See easy.

[tanyev]

12. They'll be laughing about "owning the libs" until suddenly they are no longer laughing.

[yardwork]

17. The fragmented, niche "news" media will ensure that Democrats are blamed.

[Justice matters.]

22. Then, they will blame the Democrats, never themselves...

We know these wingnuts' type...

[Lonestarblue]

37. They won't be laughing when Obamacare is killed and they can't get affordable health insurance.

Anyone with pre- existing conditions will either pay higher costs or be rejected completely. Obamacare also has paid for most of the cost for Medicaid expansion. Red states will most likely reverse the expansion and shove millions of poor people off Medicaid.

[Bengus81]

43. Yeah...just like in 2017 when those MAGA idiots realized shit was getting real about the ACA going away..

Remember those Town Halls and how all of a sudden those Republicans in Congress didn't want to set any of those up anymore? The yelling and screaming and booing. I remember it WELL.

[Ray Bruns]

6. We'll be lucky to keep the Affordable Care Act

[TurboDem]

7. You can 100% kiss the ACA goodbye!

With a majority in the Senate and no John McCain to give a "thumbs down" it will be gone in 2025.

My new attitude after this election, and since I'm on Medicare is "Fuck em, I've got mine!" They FAed, now they're about to FO.

[travelingthrulife]

18. They are coming after your Medicare as well.

n/t

[wolfie001]

26. This is their Holy Grail

The nasty christo-fascists f6ckers

[enid602]

29. Medicaid

Don’t forget Medicaid as well, which in turn will undercut Obamacare. These Trump voters thought the new regime will only affect ‘others.’

[live love laugh]

9. Oh NOW NBC wants to "warn" us. Fuck the Republican owned media..

[yardwork]

15. DU Rec.

[StarryNite]

13. But hey, on the bright side there is a slight possibility

you might pay less for a dozen eggs. At least until the immigrants have been sent away and the egg farmers don't have enough employees to run their farms.

[enid602]

30. Eggs

The crazy price of eggs was brought about by avian flu in the US and Mexico. Had nothing to do with inflationary trends.

[StarryNite]

33. The whole egg thing was a joke.

People starting buying chickens and building hen houses thinking that would provide cheap eggs for them. Really? How much did all of that cost them? And a few weeks later the price of eggs went down. Dumb people, so tired of dumb people.

[NorCalBlue]

46. Consider for a moment every product with egg in it.

You are 1000% correct, Enid. As a resident of a County known for egg production, Avian Flu driven egg loss had a domino effect on many other food products and industries.

Last year MILLIONS of chickens were culled due to a virus that our Country cannot vaccinate against due to international trade issues. Egg production reduction affected EVERY SINGLE FOOD/PRODUCT made with eggs. As a result, eggs and every single thing made with eggs, shot up. Take a moment DU readers to consider every product on the market that contains some amount of eggs, trace or otherwise.

Chicken manure also figures in. It is used in our nation’s Agricultural produce growth. California is a major organic chicken manure producer, and if manure isn’t produced, organic or otherwise, other more expensive types are required and trucked in.

I could go on and on, delving into the minutia of egg reduction related domino effects, but I won’t. It’s too far reaching to tackle, but far reaching is exactly why Avian Flu effected our economy in an invisible way.

Thank you, Enid for mentioning this, because eggs prices themselves weren’t a “figurative/political example” of Republican inflation blaming. It was, and is, an epidemic driven problem that Trump will now inherit. It’s simple science spilling over into economics, and when the word “science” is attached to anything, Republican voters vapor lock. This was actually a bigger deal than the rest of America realized, and the only reason I understand the nuances of this is because regardless of party, everyone in my county had to get educated real fast on what Avian Flu does to an economy.

[ananda]

14. A lot of people think inside a very small box.

They consider certain Trump messages that
appeal to them and block out everything else.

This election is going to a lesson in the school
of hard knocks for Trumpers (and for everyone
else too, and I mean everyone, no one excluded)!

[yardwork]

16. So true. Way too many people voted for a fantasy.

Every Trump voter seems to have had their own personal selfish fantasy about what he will do for them, while tuning out everything else he said.

[ananda]

21. Well said. A lot of people are engaged in magical thinking.

They can't think outside that fantasy box, and like I said before,
there are going to be a lot of hard lessons in the school of
hard knocks.

[Justice matters.]

24. They didn't think of, nor see, the available lifeboat...

So from now own, they'll get "elect" row cuted... slowly but surely.

[SamKnause]

19. If they voted for trump I hope they do.

If they didn't vote for trump I am sorry for the hardships we all will be going through because of the trump cult.

I wish them nothing but hardship and pain.

They fought hard for this outcome and they deserve everything coming their way.

[Zorro]

28. Problem is they'll flood hospital ERs

and the hospitals will have to treat them. And who will pay that cost?

[Phoenix61]

34. What hospitals?

With massive cuts to Medicaid/Medicare/ACA many hospitals will close. Rural areas have already lost hospitals and it will only get worse.

[BradBo]

20. Trump is the single greatest threat to American family's.

[republianmushroom]

23. Only the start, more to come.

[JohnSJ]

27. That is part of the learning process, and that elections have consequences. By the time some realize it, it may be too

late for some.

[Scully]

32. How quickly people forgot...

.... that this isn't just about losing an ACA plan, but losing the protections that ACA granted to employer-sponsored plans.

Many, many people are going to have a rude awakening when the pre-existing condition exclusions come back, and people will no longer be able to get their conditions covered by insurance even if they still have access to coverage. Or when the lifetime limits caps come back, and insurance is able to say, sorry- you cost us too much, we don't have to pay your claims any longer through your employer sponsored plan.

But hey- cheap eggs!

[Solly Mack]

35. That's OK. When they die there will be more eggs for everyone else.

[GoodRaisin]

36. Might as well say there is 0% chance subsidies will be extended.

The last time they went after the ACA their “concept of a plan” drastically reduced the subsidies to the point that premiums would have become unaffordable again.

[turbinetree]

38. Bankruptcy courts are going to be busy............dumb fuckers........they better hope that we take back the house...

[BannonsLiver]

39. That's what the country wants, apparently.

Best of luck

[LudwigPastorius]

40. Oh, I doubt it will stop there.

They'll try to do away with the ACA entirely. (...and maybe finally succeed)

Anyone who gets their policy through the government marketplace can probably kiss their affordable insurance goodbye.

[Bengus81]

44. Yeah...and no one needs to believe Trump is merely going to make "cuts" to SS and Medicare

Those are both on the hit list and will be shit canned right along with the ACA. Then those billions of $$$ in the fund and the money no longer paid to subsidize the ACA can be funneled to the richest of the rich.

Everyone else who depends on those programs can go fuck themselves. People will be dying in the US faster than some third World Country.

I wish all this was just Trump blowhard BS as usual but he's out to destroy anything that Democrats put in place to help those who truly need it, even if it means going back to 1933 and FDR.

[Hekate]

42. I know a couple of my relatives who are going to end up very sorry they voted for the monster

Except… I have a feeling that Trump’s two vast propaganda machines (FOX and X) are going to start blaming Biden and all other Dems for all the nation’s woes in 3, 2, 1..

[BigDemVoter]

45. How awful we all have to suffer for

choices those fools made….

Too bad THEY aren’t the only ones who will pay for this.

[oasis]

47. "I told you so" bumper stickers now in production.

Billboards to follow.