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BumRushDaShow

(142,396 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:28 PM Nov 5

"Bottom has started to fall out": Trump campaign aides fret as Election Day "confidence has shifted"

Source: Salon

Published November 5, 2024 10:57AM (EST)


About a dozen Donald Trump campaign aides spoke to Tim Alberta, a staff writer at The Atlantic, about how their candidate strayed from a hitherto on-message campaign to embark on a series of offensive, threatening and self-defeating verbal adventures that have left his team utterly demoralized heading into Election Day. The former president’s predictions of triumph, the reporter who has covered several Republican presidential campaigns concluded, belie a sense of panic among his subordinates that "the bottom has started to fall out" in their efforts.

In the article, campaign sources explain that Trump's newfound discipline unraveled as he succumbed to agitation over his campaign's cautious approach, advice from impatient allies like Corey Lewandowski and the aggravating itch of his natural impulses. In the space of four months, Trump's aides now fear, the former president had dragged himself from probable victory to an avoidable disaster.

Trump, however, still thinks his chances are the same are great. “He does believe that he’s going to win,” Alberta told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday, adding that Trump "has a pretty distorted view of political reality, I think that’s been the case for quite some time.” The takeaway from his conversations, he said, was that the fall campaign had "been a total train wreck of a fall campaign for the Trump folks."

Alberta's campaign observations were echoed by Wall Street Journal reporter Annie Linskey. She reported that the Election Day mood in Trumpworld has quickly turned sour. "I've talked to some of the Trump people," Linskey told CNN, "They were flat-out optimistic a week ago. I mean, people I was talking to were saying he is the president, [JD] Vance is the vice president. There was a confidence." But, Linskey noted, "That has shifted in terms of the staff members you talk to over there."

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/11/05/bottom-has-started-to-fall-out-campaign-aides-fret-as-day-confidence-has-shifted/



Link to The Atlantic ARTICLE - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-2024-campaign-lewandowski-conway/680456/
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"Bottom has started to fall out": Trump campaign aides fret as Election Day "confidence has shifted" (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 5 OP
I love stories with happy endings. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 5 #1
Let trDUMPee be trDUMPee,... magicarpet Nov 5 #2
When was Trump ever on-message? yardwork Nov 5 #3
Jeez, how were they to know? They got suckered. BoRaGard Nov 5 #4
They were certain the leopards would never eat THEIR faces! Wednesdays Nov 5 #12
Let me guess, he stopped paying them about 6 or 8 weeks ago.... getagrip_already Nov 5 #5
I guess the young, angry, incel voters just aren't showing up at the polls . . . SarcasticSatyr Nov 5 #6
"hitherto on-message" pat_k Nov 5 #7
Yeah right. What was that? The Hanibal Lector shit? Captain Zero Nov 5 #11
The Roy Cohn playbook pat_k Nov 5 #13
The truth about this mess is dribbling out now. Klarkashton Nov 5 #8
It was the debate. She wound him up... ananda Nov 5 #9
Why would they have been optimistic a week ago? madaboutharry Nov 5 #10
That's what I was thinking. PSPS Nov 5 #16
I think they were getting high on their own supply Strelnikov_ Nov 5 #21
TRANSLATION: The checks bounced. usonian Nov 5 #14
"probable victory " hibbing Nov 5 #15
They were paid to adopt that stance around trump. He hires and listens to only sycophants. PSPS Nov 5 #17
I don't think Chump listens to anyone FakeNoose Nov 5 #23
What I want to know was when Trump was ever disciplined, on track or when he ever built up some kind of lead? lees1975 Nov 5 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 5 #19
depends poozwah Nov 5 #20
Not untile every Harris voter casts their ballot. ffr Nov 5 #22
Trump surrounds himself with sycophantic toadies. SergeStorms Nov 5 #24

BoRaGard

(2,851 posts)
4. Jeez, how were they to know? They got suckered.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:40 PM
Nov 5

Poor bastards. Totally surprised that the draft-dodging, casino-hustling, lying, cheating, adulterous, felon and rapist actually SUCKERED them.

How were they to know?

getagrip_already

(17,440 posts)
5. Let me guess, he stopped paying them about 6 or 8 weeks ago....
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:41 PM
Nov 5

About the same time they lost faith in the cpaign messaging.

Ahuh. What discipline exactly was he showing?

SarcasticSatyr

(1,286 posts)
6. I guess the young, angry, incel voters just aren't showing up at the polls . . .
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:44 PM
Nov 5

Guess they're still in the basement watching porn, with tissues at the ready ...

pat_k

(10,878 posts)
7. "hitherto on-message"
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:45 PM
Nov 5

WTF?

What fantasy existence do they live in?

DT has never been "on message," unless they are referring to his message of grievance, misogyny, xenophobia, racism, and general hate for his fellow humans. He's been rambling on that message since he rode down his tacky escalator.

pat_k

(10,878 posts)
13. The Roy Cohn playbook
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 02:11 PM
Nov 5
. . .
. . Cohn imparted an M.O. that’s been on searing display throughout Trump’s ascent, his divisive, captivating campaign, and his fraught, unprecedented presidency. Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19471685

ananda

(30,822 posts)
9. It was the debate. She wound him up...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:51 PM
Nov 5

and he couldn't stay on message.

From that moment on he was totally reactive,
and his dementia issues made it worse.

madaboutharry

(41,358 posts)
10. Why would they have been optimistic a week ago?
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:56 PM
Nov 5

Were they living in a bubble?

Maybe they were thinking that Trump wouldn't use the past week to train the spotlight on how gross and disgusting of a human being he is and thought people would have forgotten.

PSPS

(14,138 posts)
16. That's what I was thinking.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 02:32 PM
Nov 5

Trump "won" in 2016 only because of russia with a crucial assist from Comey. In 2020, he was roundly defeated. That was the country's rejection right there after they saw what trump was. Four years later, he's suddenly going to win? Like I said, the democrats could have nominated a ham sandwich and trump would still lose.

Strelnikov_

(7,810 posts)
21. I think they were getting high on their own supply
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:15 PM
Nov 5

of skewed polls.

KH has maintained momentum since the debate.

FakeNoose

(35,695 posts)
23. I don't think Chump listens to anyone
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:21 PM
Nov 5

They are paid to listen to him, not the other way around. But that's fine with me.

lees1975

(5,962 posts)
18. What I want to know was when Trump was ever disciplined, on track or when he ever built up some kind of lead?
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 02:50 PM
Nov 5

No one ever reported any of that. He went off the rails during the first debate, and now has gone completely bonkers.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

ffr

(23,127 posts)
22. Not untile every Harris voter casts their ballot.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:05 PM
Nov 5

She deserves a congressional mandate! A supermajority would be terrific!

SergeStorms

(19,312 posts)
24. Trump surrounds himself with sycophantic toadies.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:34 PM
Nov 5

He's not mentally capable of handling reality, so the toadies are constantly filling his ears with the lies he wants to hear. Then they all hide in the aftermath of his defeat and never surface near him again.
It's no wonder Trump always thinks he's a winner, because he's never told there's a possibility of him losing. Donald Trump is what happens when you placate a tyrant.
He's a loser, and the winners write history. He'll go down in history as a petty, egomaniacal, misogynistic tyrant.

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