Harris: Israeli killing of Sinwar an opportunity to end war in Gaza

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Hill

10/17/24 3:07 PM ET


Vice President Harris on Thursday praised Israel’s killing of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, calling for it to be an opportunity for the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza to end after more than a year of fighting in the Middle East.

“Hamas is decimated and its leadership is eliminated,” Harris said during remarks from Wisconsin, where she was campaigning.

“This moment gives us an opportunity to finally end the war in Gaza, and it must end such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination,” she added. “It is time for the day after to begin, without Hamas in power.”

The Israel Defense Forces confirmed Thursday that it killed Sinwar during an Israeli military operation in the Gaza Strip. Despite both Harris and President Biden calling Sinwar’s killing an opportunity to end the war, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a message that while Sinwar’s killing is an important moment, the task to end Hamas is not yet complete, CNN reported.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4939308-harris-israeli-killing-of-sinwar-an-opportunity-to-end-war-in-gaza/

[iemanja]

1. He was a real piece of work

It was Sinwar who planned the Oct. 7 attack.

I fear his death is not an opportunity for peace since Netanyahu still stands in the way, and that man does not want peace.

[Autumn]

2. I imagine Nuttanyahoo doesn't see it that way. Peace does not suit his desires. nt

[Igel]

4. Netanyahu had issued a video that called on the Palestinians

to take Sinwar's death as an opportunity to release the hostages, for Hamas to surrender and let the bloodshed stop. He termed it "the first day after Hamas."

Regardless of source, here's the text: https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-of-netanyahus-address-after-killing-of-hamas-terror-chief-yahya-sinwar/

[Doc Sportello]

6. So he calls for a non-starter

Wow, what a humanitarian. He puts out things like that knowing they will not accept and that's supposed to be taken seriously? He doesn't want peace, that much is clear.

[Autumn]

10. Yeah that will do the trick.

[lapucelle]

15. President Biden called it an opportunity for "'a day after in Gaza' without Hamas in power".

Early this morning, Israeli authorities informed my national security team that a mission they conducted in Gaza likely killed Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar. DNA tests have now confirmed that Sinwar is dead. This is a good day for Israel, for the United States, and for the world.

As the leader of the terrorist group Hamas, Sinwar was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Israelis, Palestinians, Americans, and citizens from over 30 countries. He was the mastermind of the October 7th massacres, rapes, and kidnappings. It was on his orders that Hamas terrorists invaded Israel to intentionally – and with unspeakable savagery – kill and massacre civilians, a Holocaust survivor, children in front of their parents, and parents in front of their children.

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I will be speaking soon with Prime Minister Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders to congratulate them, to discuss the pathway for bringing the hostages home to their families, and for ending this war once and for all, which has caused so much devastation to innocent people.

There is now the opportunity for a “day after” in Gaza without Hamas in power, and for a political settlement that provides a better future for Israelis and Palestinians alike. Yahya Sinwar was an insurmountable obstacle to achieving all of those goals. That obstacle no longer exists. But much work remains before us.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/10/17/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-death-of-yahya-sinwar/

[lapucelle]

16. And VP Harris used similar language.

“It is time for the day after to begin, without Hamas in power.”

[tornado34jh]

3. I don't see this ending the war, not by a long shot. I think both sides have dug in.

Plus, even if Hamas were to be eliminated, you still have the issue with the Likud party. I don't trust them because I think that they actually want Trump. Unless they stop settlers from going into the West Bank in particular, I don't think that things will change. I also am betting that Hamas will probably try to get someone even more hardline or at least just as much as Sinwar. Quite frankly, it's going to be a never-ending cycle.

[maxsolomon]

5. Good statement.

It's by no means 1-sided.

[LexVegas]

7. I imagine Hamas and their admirers won't want that. nt

[AZSkiffyGeek]

8. See this thread....

[COL Mustard]

9. Good. Now can they get the hostages back

And end the war?

Asking for a friend.

[Aussie105]

11. Too glib . . .

The Israeli line when they blow up buildings where innocent civilians are and get killed, is always . . . there was a Bad Guy in there, and we gloriously killed him!

Always the same line. Bad guy dead, collateral damage, who cares about the other deaths?
Those in Palestine and in countries nearby, how do they feel? Agree with Israel or just more determined to destroy Israel?

Israel general messaging: We are the Good Guys here!
Way too glib for my liking.
Their words and actions do not match.

Indeed, a never ending cycle.
Stop the carnage, stop the war!

[ancianita]

12. They got him! Glad to hear it. Good on Israel. He's the one who rejected all the latest ceasefire & hostage deals.

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And Qatar Hamas leaders can no longer say the can't control Hamas.

[SunSeeker]

13. He will not be missed. nt

[Richard D]

14. Official statement from Israel

I have to say that I find the antisemitism in the replies to this post abhorrent and shameful.

It's been obvious to any rational person that step one in ending the war is the release of the hostages. Those who expect Israel to bend over and surrender to Hamas are delusional. It's not just Netanyahu; it is nearly all Israelis and Jews.

The only way out of the hell that is this war is defeat and surrender. Then, a new Gaza can be created, and maybe even Lebanon can be restored. The big question is, are we on the side of true freedom and democracy or on the side of totalitarian fascism that is the Islamist world of today?

My two cents. Flame away.

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Comment Given by Daniel Hagari, IDF Spokesperson:

Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas and the mastermind behind the October 7th massacre, is dead.

Sinwar was responsible for the most brutal attack in Israel's history, when terrorists from Gaza invaded, killing Israelis in their homes, raping women, burning entire families alive, and taking over 250 men, women, children, and babies hostage.

Today, 101 hostages remain in captivity, enduring brutal conditions.

For the past year, Sinwar tried to evade justice, but he failed. We promised to find him and bring him to justice, and we have.

Sinwar initiated this war against Israel while using civilians in Gaza as shields. Since the war began on October 7th, we have been clear: our conflict is with Hamas, not the people of Gaza.

We stand by that commitment.

We are working to increase humanitarian aid, including food, water, and medicine, to the people of Gaza who suffer because of Sinwar's actions.

Today, our thoughts are with the families of those murdered or kidnapped by Sinwar.

We honor our brave soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend Israel.

Our mission is not over. We will not rest until all our hostages are home, by any means necessary, and we will continue our operations until all our objectives are met in defense of Israel.

[Aussie105]

17. No flaming from me.

I understand your viewpoint although I don't agree with it, when you say:

"The only way out of the hell that is this war is defeat and surrender."

This war has been happening, on and off, for decades. With periods of unstable peace in between.

A more effective and lasting path to peace needs to be found, and the Dogs of War laid to rest.

People who whitewash the actions of one side while demonising the other side don't help much.

Enough said.

[Richard D]

19. Yes, I agree...

... But, so do many. The real question is how. No one seems to have a clue.

[Dave Bowman]

22. "the antisemitism in the replies to this post"

Can you please point to a specific case of antisemitism in this thread, at the time you posted? I may have miss them.

[Aussie105]

24. 'Antisemetism' is now loosely defined as:

Not agreeing fully with Israeli actions in the region.
(It's 100% defensive action, you must know.)

Questioning the words and motivations of Bibi.

It's meant to shut people up if they question anything in the current complex situation.
It's a trigger word these days. Always has been, I guess.

[Dave Bowman]

25. Totally agree.

[LexVegas]

26. Bigots get defensive when you call out their bigotry. nt

[Martin68]

18. The key is supporting the defeat of Hamas. The danger is supporting the killing of innocent Palestinian citizens.

It's a fine line.

[Dave Bowman]

23. That's very well said.

[The Mouth]

20. As long as there is a member or a supporter of Hamas left alive

I say give Israel all the equipment and full permission and support to wipe them out.

I will give a damn about anyone in Gaza when the last hostage is released alive, until then we could use a man like Arial Sharon again.

[Aussie105]

21. In case you haven't noticed . . .

Hamas fighters tend to withdraw when put under pressure, and they will kill any hostages they hold.

So in one way, IDF action is reducing the chance of getting many of the hostages back alive.
They will find hostages, but alive is the question.

I'm also going to guess that Israeli actions are causing a lot of Palestinians and Lebanese to stop ignoring local politics and take sides.
And some may want to put that into action.

Despite Bibi's carefully chosen words, he is just making things worse.
He wants a war that will settle things once and for all.
And he won't get that.

No, I don't know about a clean path forward from here, either.

[Israeli]

27. Leftist as I am and as Right wing as Arik was

nobody had the balls that he did .

It was a different generation , no matter their political differences he and Rabin stood together to
defend the county .
After the assassination of Rabin he knew who was to blame .
Thus the disengagement from Gaza .

Nobody could have pulled it off except Arik .