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Uncle Joe

(60,257 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:03 PM Oct 2

Bombshell special counsel filing includes new allegations of Trump's 'increasingly desperate' efforts to overturn electi

Source: ABC News

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

When Trump's effort to overturn the election through lawsuits and fraudulent electors failed to change the outcome of the election, prosecutors allege that the former president fomented violence, with prosecutors describing Trump as directly responsible for "the tinderbox that he purposely ignited on January 6."

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Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/bombshell-special-counsel-filing-includes-new-allegations-trumps/story?id=114409494

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Bombshell special counsel filing includes new allegations of Trump's 'increasingly desperate' efforts to overturn electi (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2 OP
Let's see the little cannon go roscoeroscoe Oct 2 #1
Yeah, the way it used to back in the day!! Leghorn21 Oct 2 #14
Holy Smokes!!!! Kid Berwyn Oct 2 #2
hey kid berwyn -- thank you for that pdf jack smith link! nt orleans Oct 2 #25
Being covered extensively on Nicole Wallace's show radical noodle Oct 2 #3
WoW DemonGoddess Oct 2 #4
44 months and counting republianmushroom Oct 2 #5
VP Harris needs to bring this up during her 60 minutes interview. JohnSJ Oct 2 #6
"With private co-conspirators" hibbing Oct 2 #7
John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, Sidney Powell, several others FakeNoose Oct 2 #8
The usual suspects ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2 #20
Jack Smith is the Oprah of RICOs ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2 #21
He might as well name them all because they're all goin' down FakeNoose Oct 2 #26
And some of the criminals he pardoned... (nt.) Pluvious Oct 2 #27
Alex Jones, I think was the podcaster mentioned, IMO. slightlv Oct 2 #23
The guy from the online retailer wryter2000 Oct 3 #30
Here is a link to the filing LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2 #9
Thanks for the addition LetMyPeopleVote Uncle Joe Oct 2 #10
🎶Zippidy-do-dah, zippidy-aye 🎶 Hekate Oct 2 #17
Bet the House found all of this out during their investigation as well. Freethinker65 Oct 2 #11
CYA...no honor among thieves and BattleRow Oct 2 #12
Exacatly!! Let's hope this is NOT the end of this bullshit. bluestarone Oct 2 #13
Telling the American people the truth. In Republican speak BOSSHOG Oct 2 #15
TickTock motherf*cker. Joinfortmill Oct 2 #16
Is this really new? onandup Oct 2 #18
I think I might have called them dangerous. Lawyers tend to pussyfoot around this stuff Warpy Oct 2 #19
Cannon is a different case wryter2000 Oct 3 #31
Here is a potential list of the witnesses mentioned in the Jack Smith filing LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2 #22
There's an updated list apparently... Pluvious Oct 2 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Oct 2 #24
The thing that shocked me the most creeksneakers2 Oct 3 #29
Here's the updated list of alleged conspirators from the redacted immunity filing by Jack Smith LetMyPeopleVote Oct 3 #32
Judge Chutkan - The claims of TFG's attorneys are "unbefitting of experienced defense counsel" LetMyPeopleVote Oct 3 #33
I believe "unbefitting" sums *rump up better Uncle Joe Oct 3 #34

Leghorn21

(13,747 posts)
14. Yeah, the way it used to back in the day!!
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:32 PM
Oct 2

10, 15 years ago - ? Lordy, what we have been through, roscoe!

Kid Berwyn

(18,254 posts)
2. Holy Smokes!!!!
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:15 PM
Oct 2

From Jack Smith:

...In Trump v. United States, 144 S. Ct. 2312 (2024), the Supreme Court held that presidents are immune from prosecution for certain official conduct— including the defendant’s use of the Justice Department in furtherance of his scheme, as was alleged in the original indictment—and remanded to this Court to determine whether the remaining allegations against the defendant are immunized. The answer to that question is no.

Get yer own copy: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf

ETA: LOCK HIM UP!!!!

radical noodle

(8,766 posts)
3. Being covered extensively on Nicole Wallace's show
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:18 PM
Oct 2

on MSNBC right now. This is really damning stuff.

JohnSJ

(96,792 posts)
6. VP Harris needs to bring this up during her 60 minutes interview.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:50 PM
Oct 2

No way will Trump have a second debate, nor will he reconsider a 60 minutes, or interview from a legitimate news outlet.


hibbing

(10,402 posts)
7. "With private co-conspirators"
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:00 PM
Oct 2

Well, I'm really curious who these traitors will turn out to be. It can't be members of his crime family since they were all part of the administration, as unqualified as they all were.

Hannity? Jesse Waters? Rush? Levin? Haha Leon?

Forward!

FakeNoose

(35,946 posts)
8. John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, Sidney Powell, several others
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:11 PM
Oct 2

The jig is up for these assholes.

Freethinker65

(11,150 posts)
11. Bet the House found all of this out during their investigation as well.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:20 PM
Oct 2

Most Republicans in office were ok with it, possibly because they were part of the lead up plan of questioning the electors on the House floor. As it was getting out of hand some called to make Trump stop. He didn't.

Then they covered for Trump and themselves and now are willing to give the Presidency back to this monster.

bluestarone

(18,354 posts)
13. Exacatly!! Let's hope this is NOT the end of this bullshit.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:29 PM
Oct 2

When we win the white house the House and senate we can Get all these bastards put in prison.

BOSSHOG

(40,170 posts)
15. Telling the American people the truth. In Republican speak
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 04:38 PM
Oct 2

That’s meddling in an election where high crimes and misdemeanors are irrelevant if committed by the leader of the party of responsibility. And the party of law and order.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
19. I think I might have called them dangerous. Lawyers tend to pussyfoot around this stuff
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 05:42 PM
Oct 2

like they think it might detonate if they're blunt enough to call it what it is.

I just hope this is enough to get Cannon's butt off the bench.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,298 posts)
22. Here is a potential list of the witnesses mentioned in the Jack Smith filing
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 07:06 PM
Oct 2

I have not confirmed this list but I have found this list to be interesting




Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

creeksneakers2

(7,610 posts)
29. The thing that shocked me the most
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 03:18 AM
Oct 3

was how they set up people who did not cooperate with their scheme by identifying them so that they could be targeted for threats by Trump's followers.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,298 posts)
33. Judge Chutkan - The claims of TFG's attorneys are "unbefitting of experienced defense counsel"
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:04 PM
Oct 3

Most of TFG's briefs opposing the release of the Special Counsel filing were claims that this was a partisan exercise and the facts in the filing should not be released so close to the election. In her opinion releasing the Special Counsel brief, Judge Chutkan called out TFG's counsel for advancing political rhetoric that has no basis in law. The best is when Judge Chutkan noted that TFG's claims are “unbefitting of experienced defense counsel



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