Prosecutors lay out new evidence in Trump election case, accuse him of having 'resorted to crimes'
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Source: AP
Updated 6:38 PM EDT, October 2, 2024
WASHINGTON (AP) Donald Trump laid the groundwork to try to overturn the 2020 election even before he lost, knowingly pushed false claims of voter fraud and resorted to crimes in his failed bid to cling to power, according to a newly unsealed court filing from prosecutors that offers new evidence from the landmark criminal case against the former president.
The filing from special counsel Jack Smiths team offers the most comprehensive view to date of what prosecutors intend to prove if the case charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the election reaches trial. Though a months-long congressional investigation and the indictment itself have chronicled in stark detail Trumps efforts to undo the election, the filing cites previously unknown accounts offered by Trumps closest aides to paint a portrait of an increasingly desperate president who while losing his grip on the White House used deceit to target every stage of the electoral process.
So what? the filing quotes Trump as telling an aide after being advised that his vice president, Mike Pence, had been rushed to a secure location after a crowd of violent Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 to try to prevent the counting of electoral votes.
The details dont matter, Trump said, when told by an adviser that a lawyer who was mounting his legal challenges wouldnt be able to prove the false allegations in court, the filing states. The brief was made public over the Trump legal teams objections in the final month of a closely contested presidential race in which Democrats have sought to make Trumps refusal to accept the election results four years ago central to their claims that he is unfit for office.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-jack-smith-election-supreme-court-0b9969b480036bb1f7c61a73980d406c
Short article at post time.
Link to 165-PAGE FILING (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.252.0.pdf
Article updated.
Previous articles/headline -
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump laid the groundwork to try to overturn the 2020 election even before he lost, knowingly pushed false claims of voter fraud and "resorted to crimes" in his failed bid to cling to power, according to a newly unsealed court filing from prosecutors that lays out fresh details from the landmark criminal case against the former president.
The filing from special counsel Jack Smith's team offers the most comprehensive view to date of what prosecutors intend to prove if the case charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the election reaches trial. Though a months-long congressional investigation and the indictment itself have chronicled in stark detail Trump's efforts to undo the election, the new filing cites previously unknown accounts offered by Trump's closest aides to paint a portrait of an "increasingly desperate" president who while losing his grip on the White House "used deceit to target every stage of the electoral process."
"So what?" the filing quotes Trump as telling an aide after being alerted that his vice president, Mike Pence, was in potential danger after a crowd of violent supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. "The details don't matter," Trump said, when told by an adviser that a lawyer who was mounting his legal challenges wouldn't be able to prove the false allegations in court, the filing states.
The filing was submitted, initially under seal, following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
Updated 4:22 PM EDT, October 2, 2024
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a court filing unsealed Wednesday that argues that the former president disregarded the advice of his vice president and other aides and is not entitled to immunity from prosecution over his failed bid to remain in power.
The filing was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
The purpose of the brief is to convince U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan that the offenses charged in the indictment are private, rather than official, acts and can therefore remain part of the indictment as the case moves forward.
"Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one," Smith's team said, adding, "When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office."
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a court filing unsealed Wednesday that argues that the former president is not entitled to immunity from prosecution over his failed bid to remain in power.
The filing was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
The purpose of the brief is to convince U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan that the offenses charged in the indictment are private, rather than official, acts and can therefore remain part of the indictment as the case moves forward.
Those include efforts to persuade former Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to certify the counting of the electoral votes on the afternoon of Jan. 6, 2021.
Original article -
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" in a failed bid to cling to power after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a newly unsealed court filing that argues that the former president is not entitled to immunity from prosecution.
The filing was unsealed Wednesday. It was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents and narrowed the scope of the prosecution.
mercuryblues
(15,114 posts)the docs have been read and reported on. Posted online for everyone to read.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)(P.S. good to see ya and bouncy too! )
mercuryblues
(15,114 posts)while LMAO, and picking my jaw up off the floor.
I'm reading it now.
Nice to see you too.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)I *try* to include that for folks who read the OP!
bucolic_frolic
(47,003 posts)Courts will be parsing crimes, private, officiai acts for a long time.
republianmushroom
(17,652 posts)44 months and counting
LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)Link to tweet
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf
The first page is a good read
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)Got it off courtlistener as soon as the news hit that it was released!
ETA - link to the docket - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?page=2
FakeNoose
(35,691 posts)Chump KNEW he'd lost. He KNEW he was doing illegal, unconstitutional stuff. He KNEW he had to convince others to go along with him or the plan wouldn't work. A whole bunch of people REFUSED to help him, and most of those people testified against him in the House Select Investigation of Jan. 6th. That testimony is available to the public.
If Judge Chutkan has opened a newspaper in the last 2 years she has to already know this. After the November 2020 election everything Chump did was outside of his normal "presidential" duties. Every phone call, every tweet, every meeting, every TV interview - were all guided by his desire to prevent Joe Biden from lawfully taking his place as the next president. Chump was not entitled to "presidential immunity" then or now.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)to craft any further orders and minimize any reversals upon appeal!
ShazzieB
(18,675 posts)I doubt that Judge Chutkan actually needs any convincing. What she needs is ammunition to get around that ridiculous immunity ruling, and this filing is meant to give that to her. I can't wait to read it!
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)MSNBC has been going non-stop with it on Nicole's show since 4pm ET.
ancianita
(38,580 posts)BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)he has Peter Navarro, Gordon Sondlond and Sarah Matthews on.
Just seeinig Navarro...
ancianita
(38,580 posts)Sondland is outright stupid about the Biden/Harris economy, and Ari fails to factcheck or follow up even about the most basic economic improvements like the historical jobs growth and lower crime.
Ari asks everyone to finish the sentence, "If Trump loses..."
--- 2 say it's because the people are sick of chaos and division
--- 1 says it's because he hasn't prosecuted his case the way Vance did last night
--- 1 says the MAGA line about how good things will be lost.
So glad and relieved I don't live in Republican world.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)Ari's show is the "designated" one to have the "other side" on. He does manage to corral them though.
ancianita
(38,580 posts)I don't agree that he corrals them much, though. Admittedly, as a Democrat I detest them as Republicans, and I'd detest seeing more Faux strategy from MSNBC, as if it could 'enlighten' undecideds.
And while MSNBC doesn't have to worry about its fact based reporting, Faux's big court loss has forced it to change its old propaganda programming.
Ari can fall back on this approach. He's used it too much to suit me when we already have corporate media sane washing. Especially when he knows how important the next 34 days are.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)although I have seen them use many of his interview segments with the loons, on their other shows. I still remember his interview with Randy Credico and Felix Sater!
Some of these characters are well-known creepy ones too, like Stephen Miller.
ancianita
(38,580 posts)his unusual guests any other time (yeah, the Credico/Sater segment was something else), just not right before a national presidential election. If his approach results in more Harris votes, we'll never know.
I'm weary of the tension, strife, and corporate media. I know. I can sleep when I'm dead.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)My mother used to tell us that her grandfather would often say that to her and her siblings (and he was born in 1876).
ancianita
(38,580 posts)Back in the day it was one of the "rules" I gave to my seniors when we worked at time strategies for staying on top of college studies, meeting deadlines, balancing that with needing peer approval. Which is why I jumped for joy the first time I heard Walz say it!
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)Lots of profoundness in that saying.
StClone
(11,869 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,473 posts)Biden would not have had Presidential immunity as a defense.
twodogsbarking
(12,228 posts)riversedge
(73,132 posts)Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election
Trump privately described claims of voter fraud as "crazy," the filing says.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/bombshell-special-counsel-filing-includes-new-allegations-trumps/story?id=114409494
By Katherine Faulders, Alexander Mallin, and Peter Charalambous
October 2, 2024, 3:55 PM
..........When Trump's effort to overturn the election through lawsuits and fraudulent electors failed to change the outcome of the election, prosecutors allege that the former president fomented violence, with prosecutors describing Trump as directly responsible for "the tinderbox that he purposely ignited on January 6."
"The defendant also knew that he had only one last hope to prevent Biden's certification as President: the large and angry crowd standing in front of him. So for more than an hour, the defendant delivered a speech designed to inflame his supporters and motivate them to march to the Capitol," Smith wrote.
The lengthy filing -- which includes an 80-page summary of the evidence gathered by investigators -- outlines multiple instances in which Trump allegedly heard from advisers who disproved his allegations, yet continued to spread his claims of outcome-determinative voter fraud, prosecutors said.
"It doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell," Trump allegedly told members of his family following the 2020 election, the filing said......................
LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)FakeNoose
(35,691 posts)Mike Pence is the Material Witness Numero Uno.
Also, these names need to be moved into the Top 10:
P8 Mark Short
P58 Greg Jacob
P59 Pat Cipollone
P71 Eric Herschmann
LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)Pence a identity is not hidden in this filing
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(115,344 posts)dalton99a
(84,297 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,876 posts)justice moves soooo sllooooowllllyyyyy , I already have enough to get upset about.
Martin68
(24,611 posts)types out there don't get that, but "the wheels of justice grind slow but exceedingly fine." If they don't, the bad guys get away with it. Thank you, Jack smith, for taking the time to do it right so Trump doesn't get away with his crimes.
BumRushDaShow
(142,396 posts)Here is the timeline - Timeline: Special counsel's probe into Trump's efforts to overturn 2020 election (as of 9/27/24)
Martin68
(24,611 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)riversedge
(73,132 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)Most of TFG's briefs opposing the release of the Special Counsel filing were claims that this was a partisan exercise and the facts in the filing should not be released so close to the election. In her opinion releasing the Special Counsel brief, Judge Chutkan called out TFG's counsel for advancing political rhetoric that has no basis in law. The best is when Judge Chutkan noted that TFG's claims are unbefitting of experienced defense counsel
Link to tweet