Mar-a-Lago judge scolds Jack Smith and swiftly shuts down his Trump gag demand, warns of sanctions
Last edited Tue May 28, 2024, 12:23 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: Law & Crime
May 28th, 2024, 11:44 am
The judge in the Mar-a-Lago case moved quickly to dispose of special counsel Jack Smiths gag order request the morning after former President Donald Trumps lawyers supported sanctions for prosecutors over their decision to count a holiday weekend email thread as meaningful conferral.
Just hours earlier, Law&Crime reported that Trump lawyers on Memorial Day demanded that U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon take the prosecution to task for their filing at the end of last week looking to stop Trump from putting law enforcement in foreseeable danger with falsehoods about the Mar-a-Lago raid particularly, statements on Truth Social claiming that the feds were authorized to assassinate Trump.
The judge did, in fact, take Smiths team to task. While Cannons order on Tuesday technically amounted to a draw, since the judge denied both motions without prejudice (meaning they may be brought again), she scolded Smiths team in no uncertain terms for poor lawyering.
(T)he Court finds the Special Counsels pro forma conferral to be wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy, Cannon wrote. It should go without saying that meaningful conferral is not a perfunctory exercise. Sufficient time needs to be afforded to permit reasonable evaluation of the requested relief by opposing counsel and to allow for adequate follow-up discussion as necessary about the specific factual and legal basis underlying the motion.
Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-cannon-swiftly-shuts-down-jack-smiths-trump-gag-order-request-for-lack-substance-and-courtesy/
CNN taking too long to update and other M$M are following the current trial.
Full new headline: Wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy: Mar-a-Lago judge scolds Jack Smith and swiftly shuts down his Trump gag demand, warns of sanctions
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Published 11:24 AM EDT, Tue May 28, 2024
CNN Federal Judge Aileen Cannon on Tuesday rejected special counsel Jack Smiths request for a gag order against Donald Trump in the classified documents case, saying that prosecutors request was wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy.
This story is breaking and will be updated.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/28/politics/trump-gag-order-cannon-classified-documents/index.html
Ocelot II
(130,525 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Plus ... legal commentary seemed to indicate Smith would have an opening to appeal to 11th circuit and they slapped her down twice already. Possibly I'm confused (wouldn't be the first time) and it might relate to another Smith filing in this case.
Ocelot II
(130,525 posts)2naSalit
(102,780 posts)On MSNBC analysis was that Smith was requesting further restrictions be applied to the terms of release which means the terms under which his is out on bail not the gag order itself. That's how I understood it but I may not have that right.
SKKY
(12,801 posts)...there is no way she is this bad at her job.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)SKKY
(12,801 posts)....I've edited it for clarity.
thesquanderer
(13,005 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,259 posts)catrose
(5,365 posts)iluvtennis
(21,497 posts)before submitting a motion? This doesn't make sense. Fingers crossed that Jack Smith's team appeals this to the 11th circuit.
ICYMI: Judge Cannon has DENIED, without prejudice, Special Counsel Jack Smith's Motion to Modify Trump's bond conditions because...Smith didn't "meaningfully confer" with Trump's counsel before filing the motion.
Link to tweet
Ocelot II
(130,525 posts)onenote
(46,139 posts)You can't get an interlocutory appeal of a denial of a pre-trial motion without prejudice.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Was he supposed to beg?
GreenWave
(12,640 posts)They simply want more blabbing delays while officers are at risk.
onenote
(46,139 posts)You may not think it makes sense, but it is a long-standing rule. One that the prosecution undoubtedly knows about, having previously been criticized by this judge for not complying.
Rule 88.9, Rules of the Southern District of Florida:
"... at the time of filing motions in criminal cases, counsel for the moving party shall file with the Clerk of the Court a statement certifying either: (1) that counsel have conferred in a good faith effort to resolve the issues raised in the motion and have been unable to do so; or (2) that counsel for the moving party has made reasonable effort (which shall be identified with specificity in the statement) to confer with the opposing party but has been unable to do so. This requirement to confer shall not apply to ex parte filings.
iluvtennis
(21,497 posts)TheRickles
(3,382 posts)thesquanderer
(13,005 posts)GB_RN
(3,558 posts)More delay and stonewalling of the case by Judge Loose Cannon.
IANAL, so take this for what its worth, but I suspect that by making the denial without prejudice she short circuited Smiths ability to successfully appeal it at this time. I think that leaving the door open to refile after he corrects (in her head) whatever deficiencies there were in the original application for the gag. So, Smith then has to play along and waste time before repeating this nonsense and then being able to go to the 11th with an appeal.
Any DU legal experts feel free to correct me if Im mistaken. Im simply looking at this from a strategic standpoint.
Attilatheblond
(8,876 posts)The 11th should slap her down HARD. Are there ways she could be punished for her obvious bias?
Irish_Dem
(81,259 posts)GreenWave
(12,640 posts)pfitz59
(12,703 posts)Perhaps a Leonard Leo imp is working on her staff?
Irish_Dem
(81,259 posts)Unlike her cult leader.
brush
(61,033 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,259 posts)Lovie777
(22,970 posts)another delay.............................
But again, she is also wasting points in the end because we all know shithole can't keep his mouth shut and will repeat those threats against law enforcement which will make her look even worse, if that's possible.
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)unblock
(56,198 posts)I'm no judge, but seems to me a more effective process would be to order Donnie's team to respond to the motion.
Of course, my goal is justice; not sure that aligns with Aileen's goals....
The issue here is that the government didn't make a serious effort to confer. The defense offered to confer on Monday, and given that the court was unlikely to do anything before the Memorial Day holiday, refusing to wait and have the discussion the defense offered to have was a self-inflicted mistake by the prosecution.
Irish_Dem
(81,259 posts)Figures.
Midnight Writer
(25,409 posts)If she needs input from the defense team, why doesn't she just ask them? She is the Judge, after all.
bluestarone
(22,174 posts)As soo as they agree to Confer, THAT'S when she will set a hearing for like say March.
republianmushroom
(22,323 posts)pulls her dancing strings.
slightlv
(7,789 posts)Gods, I wish he'd take it to the full circuit. Stop this playing around with her. This should have been the first case adjudication because of its national security implications. And I still think he should have filed it in DC... but IANAL.
gab13by13
(32,318 posts)the serious crimes were committed in Florida. Some of the crimes TSF committed in DC were while he was still president which means he appeals for immunity, etc.
TSF would not have been charged under the espionage act had the trial been held in DC.
liberalmediaaddict
(998 posts)The SC office had a DC jury looking at the case. And then suddenly Trump was indicted by a jury in Florida.
If the crime was solely committed in Florida why did Smith even bother with DC?
My wild guess is he was rea
dy to file the case in DC but was worried any verdict would get overturned for "charging the defendant in the wrong jurisdiction."
Personally I think the SC shouldn't have bothered filing in Florida if they knew their was even a 10% chance they'd get a Trump appointed judge like Cannon.
They could have focused on Bedminster NJ instead. Since Trump moved classified documents their.
Cannon is never going to allow this case to go to trial. She's basically working for the defense team.
Smith should stop wasting time and resources battling this corrupt and incompetent MAGA judge. Focus on the January 6th case. Cannon's only goal is to delay and to make the prosecution team look illegitimate to the public. She's succeeding on both counts.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)When he took the documents that he wasn't supposed to have, that was in DC; ergo, everything related to the actual taking of the documents is in that court system.
When he refused to return the documents he had taken and the government had to seize them, that was in FL; ergo, everything related to keeping the docs illegally is in the FL court.
You charge where the crimes occur, and must go through those jurisdictions to adjudicate it, like it or not.
cactusfractal
(578 posts)...of piano wire for this one.
Someone just needs to pick the lamp post.
alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)onenote
(46,139 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)on the motions before her, I suspect for the purposes of helping tfg to delay the case as much as possible.
Novara
(6,115 posts)See also: https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-week-ahead-366
Why did Smith go this route instead of asking for a gag order? Thats a great question, and I think it suggests where Smith is headed. 18 U.S.C. § 3731 is the statute that governs appeals that are taken by the United States (rather than by a defendant). It specifically authorizes the government to appeal if a district judge denies a motion to modify the conditions of release.
But:
So they actually made an attempt to confer with the defense and were rebuffed. But Smith went ahead and filed anyway, because he felt there was danger in waiting any longer.
A lot of the legal experts are saying she is entirely acting within her authority to require them to confer before re-filing, which, I assume is exactly what will happen here.
This is not yet a recusal action, sad to say. But they are piling up.