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SouthBayDem

(33,282 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 10:37 PM Oct 2023

Biden administration waives 26 federal laws to allow border wall construction in South Texas

Source: AP

McALLEN, Texas (AP) — The Biden administration announced they waived 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow border wall construction on Wednesday, marking the administration’s first use of a sweeping executive power employed often during the Trump presidency.

The Department of Homeland Security posted the announcement on the U.S. Federal Registry with few details outlining the construction in Starr County, Texas, which is part of a busy Border Patrol sector seeing “high illegal entry.” According to government data, about 245,000 illegal entries have been recorded in this region during the current fiscal year.

“There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas,” Alejandro Mayorkas, the DHS secretary, stated in the notice.

The Clean Air Act, Safe Drinking Water Act and Endangered Species Act were some of the federal laws waived by DHS to make way for construction that will use funds from a congressional appropriation in 2019 for border wall construction. The waivers avoid time-consuming reviews and lawsuits challenging violation of environmental laws.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2

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Biden administration waives 26 federal laws to allow border wall construction in South Texas (Original Post) SouthBayDem Oct 2023 OP
Um, OK. Republicans should be happy at least. LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #1
Please. BWdem4life Oct 2023 #21
Yeah, I know. But they SHOULD be happy... LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #26
Should have worked with the PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #2
When exactly did the present administration come to the conclusion that a wall could work?????????? Ford_Prefect Oct 2023 #3
How do you suggest a "fix" of the emigration system with the current chaos Justice matters. Oct 2023 #17
With only history as a reference, Magoo48 Oct 2023 #30
The last immigration bill was passed in 1986. former9thward Oct 2023 #36
But the current House is certainly in no shape to do anything about it. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #39
No matter what party controlled the House there has been non action on immigration. former9thward Oct 2023 #43
what are your suggestions for fixing the immigration system? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #27
CNN Reported In September That Mexico Agreed OhioTim Oct 2023 #40
Me thinks there's a pony in this trick somewhere Cheezoholic Oct 2023 #4
Agreed DENVERPOPS Oct 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Oct 2023 #14
At least one installed fencing OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2023 #34
Building a wall could go along ways towRd uniting the country oldmanlynn Oct 2023 #5
Building bridges intelpug Oct 2023 #8
Shouldn't everybody be for LEGAL immigration? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #10
Shouldn't everybody be for LEGAL immigration? - Yes of couse. speak easy Oct 2023 #13
They are not going about it in a legal way Polybius Oct 2023 #15
There are still plenty of help wanted signs out where Deminpenn Oct 2023 #22
Living wage WmChris Oct 2023 #33
Even in my economically stagnant Deminpenn Oct 2023 #45
The way I understand it is they aren't claiming asylum Groundhawg Oct 2023 #32
The legality isn't crystal clear Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #37
Indeed, it's a big mess LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #48
Less than half of all asylum seekers are successful MichMan Oct 2023 #44
WWJD? Skittles Oct 2023 #20
um...no Skittles Oct 2023 #19
the wall is mostly built and is only a temporary barrier that can be breached easily LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #28
well...my initial reaction is what the fuck... bahboo Oct 2023 #7
The only border walls I could understand are ones that guide people safely to controlled and cstanleytech Oct 2023 #9
isn't that more or less what we have now? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #29
Those routes are the ones that need to be secured with such methods. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #46
Yes, I'm basically ok with that LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #47
Mexico is doing more to deal with migrants on their side, even deport. keopeli Oct 2023 #11
MEX was always known for having a pretty secure SOUTHERN border. oldsoftie Oct 2023 #24
Somehow the drug cartels need to be confronted, maybe with predator drones because they Maraya1969 Oct 2023 #12
245,000 in one year Polybius Oct 2023 #16
Unfortunately this is disastrous for the environment. I hope this can be suspended diva77 Oct 2023 #18
Sorry, but Mayorkas has been an unmitigated disaster as head Deminpenn Oct 2023 #23
I am quite suprised and disappointed by this Bayard Oct 2023 #38
This HAD TO BE DONE. Its a MAJOR issue to most voters like it or not oldsoftie Oct 2023 #25
I am good with a wall...... Traildogbob Oct 2023 #31
I do not know anything about this problem. I DO trust Joe to bluestarone Oct 2023 #35
Bad idea IMHO, but there could be more to this than what's reported so far 0rganism Oct 2023 #41
Looks like there is indeed more to this 0rganism Oct 2023 #42

BWdem4life

(3,003 posts)
21. Please.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:35 AM
Oct 2023

Republicans are never happy with anything Biden does. They'll find some fault or ignore it.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
3. When exactly did the present administration come to the conclusion that a wall could work??????????
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 11:13 PM
Oct 2023

Fix the F*****G emigration system. When they start arriving in the 10's of thousands as they escape from environment change and political collapse that wall won't stop them.

The current wall system has already shown it cannot survive the environment it has been built on. It has been easily and frequently breached or overcome by those it is intended to stop. How does it make any kind of sense to continue building it???????

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
36. The last immigration bill was passed in 1986.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 11:23 AM
Oct 2023

That was 37 years ago. I don't think we can blame the current House situation for non action for almost four decades.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
39. But the current House is certainly in no shape to do anything about it.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:26 PM
Oct 2023

I think that's the point that was being made.

It's true that the GOP has blocked any meaningful immigration reform for years, but right now, they couldn't do anything about it if they wanted to.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
43. No matter what party controlled the House there has been non action on immigration.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 03:25 PM
Oct 2023

It simply has not been a priority. The U.S. had a immigration program that worked from the early 40s to 1964 -- the guest worker Bracero program. Organized labor did not like it and it died that year. Since then we have had this problem.

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
27. what are your suggestions for fixing the immigration system?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 08:01 AM
Oct 2023

Seriously-- I'm curious what you think should be done

OhioTim

(389 posts)
40. CNN Reported In September That Mexico Agreed
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 01:12 PM
Oct 2023

to detain migrants at their southern border and that US officials would be there to process them. This is how to stop the problem. Determine their status and those qualified to come to the US will be able to in a reasonable manner. Don't know what happened. Not a good look for Democrats.

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
4. Me thinks there's a pony in this trick somewhere
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 11:24 PM
Oct 2023

Not sure what it could be but wouldn't be surprised

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
6. Agreed
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 11:55 PM
Oct 2023

the immigrants will just go through the border somewhere else.........

I would love to know how other civilized countries are dealing with the influx of immigrants coming across their borders........

Someone I was talking to the other day had a great idea concerning Abbott/DeSantis sending bus loads to cities like Los Angles.
Load the buses back up for the return to Texas or Florida, with the worst L.S. gang members........LOL

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #6)

oldmanlynn

(821 posts)
5. Building a wall could go along ways towRd uniting the country
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 11:33 PM
Oct 2023

It would not be the most ideal situation but might not hurt either while building some bridges to those that are against illegal migration

Guessing this is the angle.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,227 posts)
10. Shouldn't everybody be for LEGAL immigration?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:34 AM
Oct 2023

Cause that’s what thousands of border crossers are trying to do - claim asylum legally.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
13. Shouldn't everybody be for LEGAL immigration? - Yes of couse.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 01:16 AM
Oct 2023

But if you are a would be immigrant from Central America, looking to send home remittences, there are LEGAL ways to make application. Not all the ppl crossing the border are asylum seekers. I understand ppl wanting a better life, but poverty is not persecution under the refugee conventions.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
15. They are not going about it in a legal way
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 01:32 AM
Oct 2023

They are coming in droves like never before. We can no longer handle it.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
22. There are still plenty of help wanted signs out where
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:50 AM
Oct 2023

I live for jobs (retail, care-giving, landscaping, restaurants, construction) that, shall we say, "established" Americans simply don't want to do or think are beneath them that migrants are willing and able to do.

Migrants who are here and working are paying taxes and can be easily found through their employers if need be.

WmChris

(741 posts)
33. Living wage
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 09:40 AM
Oct 2023

All those jobs Americans won't do all are so underpaid, overworked and/or unsafe. If the workers were treated like human beings and considered as assets rather than disposable pieces of equipment those jobs would be filled. Unionization would be a large step in the right direction, and yes I know that's a steep hill to climb.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
45. Even in my economically stagnant
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 04:38 PM
Oct 2023

county, retailers like Walmart and Aldi offer competitive wages and benefits. The local small business lawn service that I use also pays well enough to have many long term employees. Local home care companies are offering bonuses and increased wages trying to attract employees. The local Giant Eagle grocery is unionized. They are all hiring.

Groundhawg

(1,218 posts)
32. The way I understand it is they aren't claiming asylum
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 09:36 AM
Oct 2023

Legally. These asylum seekers aren't from Mexico but from other places and legally are supposed to ask for asylum in the first country they come to.
Seems to me like Mexico should be doing more to accept asylum seekers.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,227 posts)
37. The legality isn't crystal clear
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:00 PM
Oct 2023

Mexico isn’t an official “safe third country” although the Biden administration has attempted to put a rule in place rejecting asylum claims from anyone who hasn’t applied and been rejected by a country they passed through en route to the US.

It’s a mess.

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
44. Less than half of all asylum seekers are successful
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 04:34 PM
Oct 2023

Letting people come here who likely aren't eligible, allowing them stay for a couple years and get established while awaiting a hearing, and then telling those who are denied asylum that they have to leave and go back is cruel.

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
20. WWJD?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:18 AM
Oct 2023

conservatives are fucking HYPOCRITES - they call themselves CHRISTIAN and PRO-LIFE when they are NEITHER

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
28. the wall is mostly built and is only a temporary barrier that can be breached easily
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 08:02 AM
Oct 2023

by those who to need to get across

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
9. The only border walls I could understand are ones that guide people safely to controlled and
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:14 AM
Oct 2023

monitored access points along the more dangerous remote areas where people are known to be dying.
After that the people should be processed and providing they are able bodied with no criminal record they should be granted at least temporary asylum while their cases are heard.

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
29. isn't that more or less what we have now?
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 08:04 AM
Oct 2023

It's the very unscrupulous coyotes who try to sneak people across the severe desert areas; not sure how to control them

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
46. Those routes are the ones that need to be secured with such methods.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 04:53 PM
Oct 2023

Of course in my opinion people that are willing to risk their lives to come to our country should be welcomed as long as they are not major felons and will not be a burden and having young children does not imo qualify as a burden so families should be welcomed.

keopeli

(3,582 posts)
11. Mexico is doing more to deal with migrants on their side, even deport.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:49 AM
Oct 2023

A wall, (short and purposefully done) that is strategically placed, can be effective, while allowing asylum-seekers more access. It's not perfect, but we are in a crisis, no thanks to TFG.

Mexico story: The Texas Tribune

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
24. MEX was always known for having a pretty secure SOUTHERN border.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 07:10 AM
Oct 2023

What happened with that? If people know they'll likely be stopped there, they may not make the trip. I know both Biden & Harris have said more than once "dont come" but thats not working

Maraya1969

(23,495 posts)
12. Somehow the drug cartels need to be confronted, maybe with predator drones because they
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:58 AM
Oct 2023

are one of the reason so many are coming here. The money that would be saved by stopping these thugs should be used for treatment centers to help all the drug addicts here.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
18. Unfortunately this is disastrous for the environment. I hope this can be suspended
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 02:50 AM
Oct 2023
https://www.commondreams.org/news/biden-border-wall-waiver

'Horrific Step Backwards': Biden Admin Waives Protections to Speed Border Wall Construction

"Every acre of habitat left in the Rio Grande Valley is irreplaceable," said one advocate. "We can't afford to lose more of it to a useless, medieval wall."
Julia Conley Oct 04, 2023

Environmental protection advocates and immigrant rights campaigners expressed horror Wednesday over a Department of Homeland Security plan entered into the Federal Register that will waive more than two dozen laws in order to expedite the construction of the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

The "notice of determination" was entered under Section 102 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act, which was signed by former President Bill Clinton in 1996, and said Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas "has determined, pursuant to law, that it is necessary to waive certain laws, regulations, and other legal requirements."

The 26 laws—which include the National Environmental Policy Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Migratory Bird Conservation Act, and the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act—are being set aside "to ensure the expeditious construction of barriers and roads in the vicinity of the international land border in Starr County, Texas," the Federal Register said.

The waiver will allow construction through the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge and could threaten endangered species including ocelots, as well as the plant species Zapata bladderpod and prostrate milkweed, said the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD).

SNIP


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Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
23. Sorry, but Mayorkas has been an unmitigated disaster as head
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:53 AM
Oct 2023

of DHS. Maybe he has a compelling life story and is a Latino, but that doesn't make him qualified for the DHS job.

Bayard

(29,680 posts)
38. I am quite suprised and disappointed by this
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 12:11 PM
Oct 2023

Waiving the Endangered Species Act, the Migratory Bird Conservation Act, and the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. These are critical protections that were hard won, and sacrosanct.

I agree with others that a wall is not much of an answer, and seems politically motivated.



An alligator-filled moat would be much more feasible, probably less expensive, and Abbott would love it.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
25. This HAD TO BE DONE. Its a MAJOR issue to most voters like it or not
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 07:14 AM
Oct 2023

When you've lost the Gov of NY & the Mayor of NYC, among others from smaller areas, you're losing to everyone.
If the Pres can show a drastic reduction in border crossings by next Nov, that issue could be taken away. But there has to be MAJOR action taken quickly. This has been a disaster for months. And unsustainable.

Traildogbob

(13,017 posts)
31. I am good with a wall......
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 08:31 AM
Oct 2023

At northern Texas and Florida. They want to leave the country anyway. Make damn sure Gaetz and Cruz are home when it’s built.

bluestarone

(22,177 posts)
35. I do not know anything about this problem. I DO trust Joe to
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 10:13 AM
Oct 2023

Do what needs to be done. The only problem i see is how the RETHUGS will go the I told you so route. Be ready!

0rganism

(25,644 posts)
41. Bad idea IMHO, but there could be more to this than what's reported so far
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 02:39 PM
Oct 2023

If we wanted to catch and deport crossers with minimal environmental damage, the sensible way would be to use a combination of drone surveillance networks and increased CBP patrol routes. Build more roads as needed. Upgrade immigrant processing centers in northern Mexico to improve legitimate migration throughput. Work with Central American governments to identify and address causes of excess emigration. So many alternatives to a stupid wall.

I can't believe Biden et al don't see this, I think the wall thing has to be some kind of gambit with a follow-up in play. If not, this is an avoidable mistake that will cost us in 2024.

0rganism

(25,644 posts)
42. Looks like there is indeed more to this
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 02:57 PM
Oct 2023

Apparently Biden admin following through with a 2019 Trump "policy" to be enacted by the end of 2023:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218332707

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