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ificandream

(11,837 posts)
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 07:26 PM Sep 2023

7 sets of remains exhumed, 59 graves found after latest search for remains of the Tulsa Race

Source: Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — The latest search for the remains of victims of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre has ended with 59 graves found and seven sets of remains exhumed, according to Oklahoma state archaeologist Kary Stackelbeck.

The excavation ended Friday, Stackelbeck said, and 57 of the 59 graves were unmarked and previously unknown.

The seven that were exhumed were found in simple, wooden boxes that Stackelbeck has said investigators were searching for because they were described in newspaper articles at the time, death certificates and funeral home records as the type used for burials of massacre victims.

"For all of those seven individuals that we've exhumed up to this point in time, those individuals have been transported to our onsite forensic laboratory," where efforts to identify them and determine the causes of their deaths will begin.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tulsa-race-massacre-victims-seven-sets-remains-exhumed/

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hadEnuf

(3,614 posts)
3. Our violent racist past only went underground for 5 or 6 decades.
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:19 PM
Sep 2023

It's being ushered back in front of our eyes.


i used to roll eyes at countries like Yugoslavia that started fighting again over 60 or 70 year old disagreements. I don't anymore.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
9. The difference between back then and now
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 11:13 PM
Sep 2023

is that a large majority of Americans don’t hold the virulent racist attitudes that the majority held back then. Today we’ve got a minority of loudmouths that have been emboldened by Trump. We have to keep defeating them until they crawl back under the rock they came from.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
14. Yes, there are lots of other examples. Hatred and grievances get handed down and latched onto. It
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 04:10 PM
Oct 2023

has happened throughout history. I naively thought "We the People" were above that. I was wrong.

Permanut

(8,390 posts)
2. Glad to see this..
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 07:54 PM
Sep 2023

And yet, a century later, we see this and other extreme acts of racial hatred buried by one of the Republkkkan governors, who is a "frontrunner" in the debates.

Deuxcents

(26,915 posts)
4. All these years of denial...
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 08:38 PM
Sep 2023

“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth.”
Buddha

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
5. Justice will never be achieved for the victims,
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 09:10 PM
Sep 2023

but hopefully some of them will be given their names back, and not be forgotten!

justaprogressive

(6,909 posts)
10. "and determine the causes of their deaths will begin." They were murdered.
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 07:26 AM
Oct 2023

Oklahoma judge first threw out the case

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186690457/tulsa-race-massacre-reparations-lawsuit

Lawyer responds: "Lead attorney for the lawsuit, Damario Solomon-Simmons, plans to file an appeal with the Oklahoma Supreme Court.

"We know we have a conservative Supreme Court, but we believe the law and the facts are so clear, that any lawyer [and] any judge that's actually looking at the documents will say, 'Hey, you can let these people into court,'" he said during the Monday press conference.

The survivors and attorneys also called on the the Department of Justice and President Joe Biden to open a federal investigation into the Tulsa Race Massacre.

"Despite Tulsa and America's attempt to silence change and gaslight the facts and truth about collective racial history and trauma, we as survivors-- and all of those that believe in racial justice-- we will not sit quietly or passively to allow mistruths or injustice to persist," a statement on behalf of the three survivors of the case read."

]https://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-race-massacre-survivors-attorneys-respond-dismissal-lawsuit/story?id=101005613

Next...


"The Oklahoma Supreme Court will consider a reparations case from survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre after a lower court judge dismissed it last month, giving hope to advocates for racial justice that government may make amends in one of the worst single acts of violence against Black people in U.S. history.

Tulsa County District Judge Caroline Wall dismissed the case on July 9. Survivors appealed and the state’s high court agreed last week to consider whether that decision was proper and if the case should be returned to her court for further consideration."

]https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-08-16/oklahomas-high-court-will-consider-a-reparations-case-from-1921-tulsa-race-massacre-survivors


*BTW has Oklahoma honored the treaty which proves that the eastern half of Oklahoma BELONGS TO THE INDIANS???

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
11. And to think they were able to nearly hide this forever from the rest of the world.
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 08:08 AM
Oct 2023

Even flew planes over to bomb the neighborhood. Any excuse would do, even if it was a lie.

‘Fast-Approaching Aeroplanes’ and Other Reports from the Black Community


Mary E. Jones Parrish was a teacher and journalist in the Greenwood district who gathered photos and firsthand accounts of the massacre, including her own. In her Events of the Tulsa Disaster, self-published in 1922 (and republished in 2021), she recalls seeing “fast-approaching aeroplanes” and that “more than a dozen aeroplanes went up and began to drop turpentine balls upon the Negro residences.” One of the anonymous eyewitnesses she quotes said they saw low-flying airplanes that “left the entire block a mass of flame” as they passed over the district. Reporting for The Nation, Walter White wrote that “eight aeroplanes were employed to spy on the movements of the Negroes and according to some were used in bombing the colored section.” According to the 2001 Commission report, Black newspapers were “full of stories of turpentine or nitroglycerin bombs being dropped and men shooting from planes.”

Buck Colbert Franklin, a Tulsa attorney and the father of historian John Hope Franklin, also remembered “turpentine balls” falling from the sky. “I could see planes circling in mid-air,” Franklin wrote in a 10-page manuscript on yellow legal pad that was discovered in 2015. “They grew in number and hummed, darted and dipped low. I could hear something like hail failing upon the top of my office building... The side-walks were literally covered with burning turpentines balls. I knew all too well where they came from and I knew all too well why every burning building first caught from the top.”

More:
https://www.history.com/news/1921-tulsa-race-massacre-planes-aerial-attack


Look how little time it was between the first airplane flight:

December 17, 1903

and when Tulsa racists decided to use airplanes to fly over Tulsa and murder their fellow human beings:

May 31, 1921

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
13. I was wondering how they could have destroyed over 1,000 homes
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 10:16 AM
Oct 2023

In one day.

This is genecide. White racists in Oklahoma had nothing on Stalin.

cyclonefence

(5,151 posts)
12. But god forbid students in Florida
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 09:11 AM
Oct 2023

should hear a whisper about any of this. It might interfere with their white pride.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
16. I heard about it when the majority of Americans heard about it, but didn't know..
Mon Oct 2, 2023, 12:00 AM
Oct 2023

until maybe a year ot two before Covid about the planes!

Making an already hideous, murderous attack even more horrific.

And having read bits of Professor Franklin's writings, or speeches through the decades; the knowledge that his father lived through that... makes all the more concrete. Woah.

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