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riversedge

(80,810 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 09:33 PM Aug 2023

Judge scolds fuming Trump lawyer after he accuses Jack Smith of violating his oath

Source: raw story





David Edwards
August 28, 2023, 11:01 AM ET



U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Monday scolded John Lauro, an attorney for Donald Trump, after he accused special counsel Jack Smith of violating his oath of office.

Court watcher Brandi Buchman reported from the hearing called to set a trial date for Trump's federal election interference case.

Chutkan noted that the special counsel's office had organized the evidence in a manner allowing a speedy trial. But Trump's team has proposed an April 2026 trial date, which Chutkan insisted was not acceptable.

The hearing became heated as Lauro argued for more time. .............................

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Judge scolds fuming Trump lawyer after he accuses Jack Smith of violating his oath (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2023 OP
Performative for the Grift / MAGA donor base. speak easy Aug 2023 #1
In other words: Monday. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #2
Trump changed lawyers in GA case Deminpenn Aug 2023 #22
Yup, and I thought he had already screwed up enough and was canned for delay tactics. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #23
Yes grandstanding performance art, pretend victim outrage over nonsense. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #3
trying to figure if Lauro has always been a lout or if P011358097890 is contagious Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #8
Yep. Outrage to justice? 😁 guy's got some nerve. onetexan Aug 2023 #14
It is a shame the attorney wasn't sanctioned and fined. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #4
But his spokesperson said the Stable Genius doesn't need to prep much since he did nothing wrong. Eugene Aug 2023 #5
Mensa candidates, these people are not.... bahboo Aug 2023 #7
Only prep needed is practice to sit down and shut up Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #10
An historical perspective BOSSHOG Aug 2023 #6
Yes, Go Navy. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #9
Semper Fi to you my Friend BOSSHOG Aug 2023 #11
We often worked with the Navy Seabees, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #12
But you put your finger on it: "No lawyers involved. I don't see what the problem is." Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #18
The prosecutor's reply was great... Princess Turandot Aug 2023 #13
Thanks PT - read her entire thread and will be following her. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #16
Hooo Lordy! 2naSalit Aug 2023 #19
Master Thespian Bayard Aug 2023 #15
I'll Never forget what Lauro said Cha Aug 2023 #17
That pissed me off too. 2naSalit Aug 2023 #20
Thanks 2nzSalit.. I've been Cha Aug 2023 #26
She's just not having it... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #27
Usually not a good idea... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #21
I'm begging for Trump's Lawyer to admin, under oath... SKKY Aug 2023 #24
Damn dumb dude. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #25
Funny. My sense of what a scolding is, is very very different from this twitter's idea of a scolding msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #28
If he had time to go on TV and podcasts ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #29

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
2. In other words: Monday.
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 09:45 PM
Aug 2023

I thought that lawyer was fired already, I can't and won't keep track of them or remember their names if I can help it.

Just delaying his prison at this point, trying for rest of his already mostly over life, but he's gonna wind up awaiting trial in a cell as soon as one actually starts and he does what he does best?

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
23. Yup, and I thought he had already screwed up enough and was canned for delay tactics.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:45 AM
Aug 2023

We've seen him, not bummed he is still there.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
3. Yes grandstanding performance art, pretend victim outrage over nonsense.
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 09:52 PM
Aug 2023

The judge knows it and called him on it.

Attilatheblond

(8,877 posts)
8. trying to figure if Lauro has always been a lout or if P011358097890 is contagious
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 09:59 PM
Aug 2023

But your point makes sense. P011358097890 probably giving him orders to preform. $$ incoming is all P011358097890 works for. Maybe told his lawyers to keep up the show if they wanna get paid?

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
14. Yep. Outrage to justice? 😁 guy's got some nerve.
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 11:09 PM
Aug 2023

The only outrage here is his crooked client attempted to steal a federal election to stay in power & is still allowed to tweet accusations and threats. The judge needs to throw his butt in jail.

Attilatheblond

(8,877 posts)
10. Only prep needed is practice to sit down and shut up
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 10:00 PM
Aug 2023

It's not like they would ever risk putting him on the stand.

This bimbo, I mean, lawyer is just using flattery to try and calm P011358097890 down. He is probably in a state and not easy to be around. His insecurity level must be off the chart.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
6. An historical perspective
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 09:55 PM
Aug 2023

Trumps lawyers have approximately 6 months to “prepare” to defend the indefensible.

Six months after Japan fucked up and attacked Pearl Harbor, our namby pamby libtard President FDR and his Admirals and their Officers and Chiefs and Sailors kicked Japans Ass at the Battle of Midway. Turning the tide if you will. No lawyers involved.

I don’t see what the problem is.

May I humbly submit. GO NAVY!

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
9. Yes, Go Navy.
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 10:00 PM
Aug 2023

The Navy was great getting us and our equipment to where we needed to go.
Semper Fi Navy.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
11. Semper Fi to you my Friend
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 10:02 PM
Aug 2023

I was privileged to serve with many Marines during my years in the canoe club. Always a positive experience. Service rivalry is a good thing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
12. We often worked with the Navy Seabees,
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 10:05 PM
Aug 2023

a greater bunch of sailors won't be found, very professional, a real pleasure to work with.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
18. But you put your finger on it: "No lawyers involved. I don't see what the problem is."
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 05:31 AM
Aug 2023

Lawyers primary role is to find problems. Creative, problem busting lawyers are not the norm.

They find problems for blocking motions, overturning rulings, launching appeals, etc. Problems with opposition arguments, problems with evidence, chain of custody, etc.

The US military, especially in war, is creative and has a "can do" attitude.

Princess Turandot

(4,917 posts)
13. The prosecutor's reply was great...
Mon Aug 28, 2023, 11:01 PM
Aug 2023

She threw Lauro's Sunday news show parade on the day before the first hearing right back at him.

From Brandi Buchman's hearing thread:


Now Molly Gaston is up.

Gaston: I think there's a reason Mr. Lauro avoided answering your exact question on how much time to review. He doesn't want to admit that search tools used in modern criminal trials means its possible to be ready much sooner than April 2026.

Gaston notes how Trump posted many video and messages online addressing this probe, showing he knew for a long time this was coming.

Then she notes: "The night the indictment was unsealed, Mr. Lauro called the indictment a regurgitation of the Jan. 6 Cmte report."
Gaston: Trump has 4 counsels of record, 2 attys who attended arraignment and one involved with pre-indictment prep; When Lauro went on air, podcasts, he described a number of motions he plans to raise, said he read Pence's book twice and knew what witnesses to call, what to ask.
...

Gaston: The defendant, formerly, the senior most official in our federal government is accused of historic crimes, attempting to overturn presidential election, disenfranchise millions of Americans, disrupt peaceful transfer of power ...
Gaston cont: there's a strong need in public interest to hear this in open court, and proceed to fair open trial...


Brandi (who is a reporter, not a 'court watcher' as rawstory called her) is very good at capturing the events. She'll be covering the not-so-Proud Boys' sentencing for seditious conspiracy et al this week, beginning tomorrow.

You can read her live-tweeting thread of today's action here. You don't need to use twitter to read it.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1696090119415996758.html


2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
19. Hooo Lordy!
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:30 AM
Aug 2023

She has got his number and has it on speed dial! The Smith team is going to peel this alleged attorney like a grape.

Thank for the post, I have to watch this one.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
17. I'll Never forget what Lauro said
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:35 AM
Aug 2023

at the Magistrate when this first started.

He said he was there to represent trump and the American People. Gaslighting like a MF.

Heard it all on Glenn Kirschner's show and Glenn said.. "No you're NOT representing the American People.. Only trump.. The Government is rep the American People"

Kirshner was Livid!

TY rivers.. that was interesting.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
20. That pissed me off too.
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 07:33 AM
Aug 2023

Glad we have pros, like Kirschner and others, telling us the truth and helping to educate us about our Constitution and legal system.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
26. Thanks 2nzSalit.. I've been
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 01:48 PM
Aug 2023

wanting to know if anyone else knew about that too.

I'm so grateful Judge Chutkan put ol "I can't be ready for 2 years Lauro"..!

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
27. She's just not having it...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 02:22 PM
Aug 2023

Not from those whiny shits. She's like the very experienced mom who has already seen it all and nothing those clowns can come up with is going to move her in their direction.

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
24. I'm begging for Trump's Lawyer to admin, under oath...
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 08:06 AM
Aug 2023

..."My client does not have access to the resources everyone thinks he does." I think he'd admit as much if it helped push the date further to the right.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
28. Funny. My sense of what a scolding is, is very very different from this twitter's idea of a scolding
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 04:40 PM
Aug 2023

Saying in a calm, even voice to tone it down isn't what I'd describe as a scolding.

but then I was raised in a culture of hard knocks, quite literally.

Verbal Scolds were never, ever expressed with a calm even tone.

Let's do take down the temperature, but just saying it once.

After that there's a fine, a penalty. real consequences.

Don't baby that infantile behavior. Cuz it ain't gonna stop unless you take a harder line approach.







 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. If he had time to go on TV and podcasts
Tue Aug 29, 2023, 05:54 PM
Aug 2023

Then he has time to review the discovery evidence.

QEbloodyD.

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