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JudyM

(29,785 posts)
Tue May 2, 2023, 04:40 PM May 2023

Woman testifies that she too was sexually attacked by Trump

Source: Associated Press

A woman who says Donald Trump silently molested her on an airliner in the late 1970s testified Tuesday in support of the writer who alleges that a flirtatious 1996 encounter with the future president ended in a violent sexual attack.

Jessica Leeds, 81, of Asheville, North Carolina … was in her late 30s and working in sales when she was invited by a flight attendant aboard a daytime flight from Dallas or Atlanta to New York to sit in the only empty aisle seat in the first-class cabin. “The gentleman sitting by the window introduced himself as Donald Trump,” she said.

Conversation between the pair was mostly forgettable, Leeds recalled, as they ate a nice meal, before “all of a sudden Trump decided to kiss me and grope me.” “There was no conversation. It was like out of the blue. It was like a tussle. He was trying to kiss me, trying to pull me towards him. He was grabbing my breasts. It was like he had 40 zillion hands. It was like a tussling match between the two of us,” she recalled.

Leeds said the standoff ended when she realized no aircraft employees were coming to the rescue and Trump seemed to get more aggressive. “It was when he started putting his hand up my skirt that gave me strength. I managed to wriggle out of my seat and storm back to my seat in coach. I don’t think there was a word or a sound made by either one of us,” she recalled. Asked to describe how long the encounter took, Leeds said “it seemed like forever, but it probably was just a few seconds.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-trial-carroll-columnist-315e42c5190b086c84dd0708c41490fe?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_09



Pig.

Worth making an ad out of this and play it repeatedly in select areas where people have “righteous” values. Let’s see how they square it when they’re confronted with it.
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wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
1. I wonder how many more there are
Tue May 2, 2023, 04:43 PM
May 2023

I wish everyone he's assaulted would speak up, even if they don't testify.

Karadeniz

(24,746 posts)
4. I remember all the claims during his first campaign, including his telling Howard Stern on the radio
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:02 PM
May 2023

that he could walk into his beauty pageant dressing room while they were dressing because he owned the pageant. I've wondered why that public statement isn't used along with his Access Hollywood tape.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
3. He was clearly out of control, even with complete strangers.
Tue May 2, 2023, 04:59 PM
May 2023

There are more, many more victims.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
16. Or stick her index finger into one of his eyeballs...
Wed May 3, 2023, 11:17 AM
May 2023

And tear it away!

Stops the effin criminal aggressor in a split second with one eye left

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
6. There must be hundreds, if not thousands more
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:05 PM
May 2023

This particular incident really highlights how cavalier he is about this behavior.

Just so gross.

jgo

(1,021 posts)
8. To your point - this is from a reporter's twitter feed in the courtroom
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

"
Inner City Press
@innercitypress

Ferrara: Did you ever speak with Donald Trump again?
Leeds: In 1981 at a fundraiser. I had a nice dress. Trump and Ivana, pregnant, came up.
Leeds: Trump said, I remember you, you're that c*nt from the airplane. It was like cold water over me. He walked away and I went home.
Ferrara: Nothing further.
Judge Kaplan: Cross examination.
"

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
14. Yes, there has to be
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:29 PM
May 2023

Obviously, the behavior came naturally to him like breathing. He kept getting away with it, so he kept doing it. He is such a monster.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
7. Ancient Evenings by Norman Mailer
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

It is one of the best historical novels I've ever read. The main character is born into ancient Egypt and goes through several reincarnations. In one of his lives, he is raped by the Pharoah. Great detail about how he feels about that assault, like he had to submit because it was Pharoah, and the anger and humiliation. There is more, a lot more, but as this trial unfolds, I've been thinking about that scene.

I don't think there are many men who can relate to sexual assault up to and including rape. Probably more than we know. And not to mention all of the boys who were assaulted, and do their damnedest to squelch the whole memory, and would rather die before they revealed that yes, they actually can relate to women like E. Jean Carroll. But all of us who have been assaulted owe Ms. Carroll a debt of gratitude for telling her story, and refusing to be called a liar.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
9. "...He [Trump] was grabbing my breasts. It was like he had 40 million hands."....
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:22 PM
May 2023

I can only hope that the Court goes down hard on sleazy Trump!



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2nd Trump accuser in E. Jean Carroll case describes alleged 1979 groping

https://abcnews.go.com/US/testimony-resumes-jean-carrolls-defamation-battery-case-trump/story?id=99011399

Carroll alleges that Trump defamed her when he denied her rape claim.



By Aaron Katersky
May 2, 2023, 2:29 PM


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Jessica Leeds is one of two women who the court has ruled are allowed to testify about prior alleged assaults by Trump, who is accused by Carroll of defaming the former Elle magazine columnist in a 2022 Truth Social post by calling her allegations "a Hoax and a lie" and saying "This woman is not my type!" when he denied her claim that Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in the 1990s.
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Leeds, who first made her allegations to The New York Times just before the 2016 presidential election, testified that she was on a flight to New York when she was bumped up to first class from her coach seat and wound up next to Trump.

"When I got up there and sat down, the gentleman sitting by the window introduced himself as Donald Trump. We shook hands," Leeds, who was 37 at the time, testified. "What happened was, they served a meal. And it was cleared and we were sitting there, when all of a sudden Trump decided to kiss me and grope me."


She said there was no conversation -- "It was out of the blue."


Leeds described the alleged encounter "like a tussle," saying, "He was trying to kiss me. He was trying to pull me towards him. He was grabbing my breasts. It was like he had 40 million hands."...............

sinkingfeeling

(57,835 posts)
10. Powerful men did things like that in thev1970s. I know
Tue May 2, 2023, 06:07 PM
May 2023

that for a fact. And most of us women did just stay silent.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
11. OMG.
Tue May 2, 2023, 06:42 PM
May 2023
I don’t think there was a word or a sound made by either one of us,” she recalled.


What do you want to bet Taco Loco goes after her for not screaming, the way he did E. Jean?

Seriously, he'll be on that like a dog on a bone. HOW I hate him!

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
12. Yup, he's a one-trick pony
Tue May 2, 2023, 06:53 PM
May 2023

Not to mention, he's already in trouble with the judge, but TFG can't attract competent representation.

LPBBEAR

(658 posts)
15. My suspicion
Wed May 3, 2023, 08:14 AM
May 2023

is that this was one of Trump's "come on" tactics during that time. If I remember correctly one of the earlier articles I read about this a few years ago mentioned that the empty first class seat next to Trump on this flight was purchased by Trump himself. I believe its likely he did this routine often and regularly. Purchase 2 seats next to each other in first class, scope out attractive women sitting alone in coach, and then he would schmooze the flight attendant to offer the seat to the woman he planned on raping. Very similar to the type of come on he used with E. Jean Carroll when he invited her to shop with him for a woman’s lingerie gift. The same type of ploy was used by Ted Bundy when he would fake a broken arm and ask women for help unloading a sailboat from his car in the Seattle area. (five women reported that a young man in tennis whites, left arm in a sling, had asked for help unloading a sailboat from his car)
Trump is a rotten piece of shit. He is a premeditated rapist. I have no doubt there are numerous other silent victims out there too afraid to report him to Law Enforcement. He would already be in prison years ago if it weren't for his Daddy's money and the power it gave him to discourage his victims from reporting his crimes. I hope someday the full picture of this sick and twisted psychopath is exposed for the world to see.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
17. You think those people with "righteous" values care?
Wed May 3, 2023, 10:54 PM
May 2023
Worth making an ad out of this and play it repeatedly in select areas where people have “righteous” values. Let’s see how they square it when they’re confronted with it.


They follow a book that says a guy who rapes an "unbetrothed" woman can get out of being killed for rape by paying her daddy some money and then marrying the chit. Then she's his to rape forever.

They follow a book that says that if their men go to war and defeat an enemy, then they can take all of the vanquished women and girls and rape them to force them into marriage.

They follow a book that says that it's okay to kidnap and rape innocent women minding their own business and not part of any war zone at all, simply to acquire a wife.

In fact, they do not believe that rape is really a thing, because they believe women aren't human beings, only property to do with as a man pleases. The book even says they're property. Ever see that commandment about not coveting? It includes wives in with the lands, goods and livestock.

That is not an accident. It is 100% intended to convey the message that women are property, not people.

So your ad won't do one thing to change any of their minds about the rapist. To them, Hair Furor is doing what he's allowed to do to property. Property can't be victims. Only the owner of it.

So even if she had been the "property" of someone else, well, what he did was still okay with them, because the shameless little hussy shouldn't have been in public without a male protector to have him try to lay claim to her, and the male protector gets no sympathy for not keeping a better eye on his property.

This is really how they "think."

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