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BumRushDaShow

(169,746 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:19 AM Mar 2023

Pension funds report millions in losses amid Silicon Valley Bank collapse

Source: ABC News

An Ohio public pension fund for teachers revealed it lost millions by holding more than $27 million in Silicon Valley Bank shares before the bank’s collapse.

The State Teachers Retirement System (STRS) of Ohio stated that the shares represented a minuscule portion of its overall holdings --.03% of the total fund -- which held over $88.8 billion in assets as of June 2022. The statement confirmed that the bank had no shares of Signature or Silvergate banks, which collapsed in the past weeks. STRS is a pension fund for over 500,000 current and former public educators in Ohio.

“The collective actions taken by the Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to insure and backstop deposits have helped to mitigate the situation facing the banking industry,” STRS wrote in their statement. “STRS Ohio continues to monitor and assess the impact of these developments.”

The multi-million dollar loss comes as another repercussion of the ongoing financial crisis. Silicon Valley Bank, the 16th largest bank in the U.S., collapsed one week ago, followed by the collapse of Signature Bank. Silvergate Bank, which specialized in providing services to cryptocurrency users, also liquidated its assets earlier in March. The financial crisis has impacted other pension funds, including North Carolina’s state pension fund and California’s public employee retirement fund.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/pension-funds-report-millions-losses-amid-financial-crisis/story?id=97932375

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Pension funds report millions in losses amid Silicon Valley Bank collapse (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 OP
Kicking for Visibility SheltieLover Mar 2023 #1
That will teach those greedy capitalist oligarch shareholders that ... mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2023 #2
TGIF BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #3
Why do they always use the teachers funds to effeing prop up effeing Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #4
So odd that 5% of Ohio's population are teachers with pensions FredGarvin Mar 2023 #5
It's probably all the state retirees, not just teachers. yardwork Mar 2023 #17
I don't understand why pensions are allowed to invest in individual stocks RAB910 Mar 2023 #6
Index funds are a basket of individual stocks FredGarvin Mar 2023 #9
Diversified equity investments, even with bankruptcies, outperform other investment strategies mathematic Mar 2023 #7
In the past, pensions were paid out by laddered treasuries and safe guaranteed returns FredGarvin Mar 2023 #8
+1 CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #14
Pension funds getting lower returns would cause annual contributions to rise MichMan Mar 2023 #16
Yup... it's sucks but it's the only game in town. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #19
NC state pension plans also affected, but only a fraction of the effect on Ohio. mnhtnbb Mar 2023 #10
.03% of its holdings. Meh. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #11
But were they really lost when Biden/Yellen/Powell... Mawspam2 Mar 2023 #12
Equity. Now worth zilch. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2023 #15
+1 CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #13
Regulations are good, very good, very damn good. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #18

Baitball Blogger

(52,344 posts)
4. Why do they always use the teachers funds to effeing prop up effeing
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:38 AM
Mar 2023

shady financial systems? That what Gov. Bush did with the teachers funds and Enron in Florida.

 

FredGarvin

(846 posts)
5. So odd that 5% of Ohio's population are teachers with pensions
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:53 AM
Mar 2023

That's a really high percentage of people getting pensions to begin with.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
6. I don't understand why pensions are allowed to invest in individual stocks
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:56 AM
Mar 2023

I would think they should only be investing in index funds which would shield them from downturns with any individual company

mathematic

(1,610 posts)
7. Diversified equity investments, even with bankruptcies, outperform other investment strategies
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:56 AM
Mar 2023

Whenever some trash company goes bankrupt there's a story about a pension fund that invested in it.

Sure, they lost .03% of the fund's value from the bankruptcy. How much did the fund's bond portfolio increase in value due to the bankruptcy? Probably more than .03% of the fund's value, if I had to guess.

Diversified investments across assets that are uncorrelated or negatively correlated improve investment returns. If your pension fund isn't investing in things like SVB then it will have difficulties meeting its pension obligations in the long run.

Reports like this usually lead people to think that the funds made a mistake, are poorly managed, or are otherwise making victims out of the pension holders. Come back in a day and look through the comments in this thread and I'm sure you'll see this was the takeaway from the story. (I would be pleasantly surprised if its not).

 

FredGarvin

(846 posts)
8. In the past, pensions were paid out by laddered treasuries and safe guaranteed returns
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 11:01 AM
Mar 2023

Since the advent of zero interest rates, it forced these pension funds into the hands of Wall Street speculators.

This is a massive problem for all pension funds.

Accrued liabilities need significant returns to keep promises made

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
14. +1
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:26 PM
Mar 2023

The zero interest policy fucking broke me.

I'd inherited some $ in the year 2000 and when the investments came due all I could get was 2%!



FUCKERS!!!

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
16. Pension funds getting lower returns would cause annual contributions to rise
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:55 PM
Mar 2023

State and Local governments count on higher rates of return to keep their annual contributions lower.

mnhtnbb

(33,348 posts)
10. NC state pension plans also affected, but only a fraction of the effect on Ohio.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 11:13 AM
Mar 2023
The fallout is also being felt in North Carolina.

Wednesday, ABC11 confirmed state pension plans included millions in stock from both banks.

"We have small exposures to both Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank as shareholders of their stock. As of February 28, we had a total of approximately $9.9 million of Silicon Valley Bank stock as well as approximately $7.8 million of Signature Bank stock across the DB Plan, the DC Plan, and our AGPIP portfolios. This equates to less than 0.01% of the value of all three of these portfolios," State Treasurer Dale Folwell said.

He says the investments equate to less than one percent of the portfolio and pensions really won't be impacted.


https://abc11.com/business-nc-pensions-stocks-silicon-valley-signature-bank/12958053/

Mawspam2

(1,106 posts)
12. But were they really lost when Biden/Yellen/Powell...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:43 PM
Mar 2023

...says 'all deposits are safe' or was this an equity position, in which they were wiped out.

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