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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,069 posts)
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:33 PM May 2022

Clarence Thomas says government institutions shouldn't be 'bullied' following leak of draft opinion

Source: CNN

Justice Clarence Thomas, following the leak of a draft majority opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, said Friday that government institutions shouldn't be "bullied" into delivering what some see as the preferred outcome.

"The events of earlier this week is one symptom of that," Thomas said. He added that "you cannot have a free society" without stable institutions.

His comments came before an audience of mostly judges and lawyers at the 11th Circuit Judicial Conference in Atlanta. Chief Justice John Roberts had addressed the same conference Thursday, calling the leak "absolutely appalling."

-snip-

On Friday, Thomas also reiterated that he believes Supreme Court justices are obligated to take a fresh look at established precedent and shouldn't be bound by the judicial doctrine called "stare decisis." The legal principle is translated as "stand by that which has been decided" and is meant to reinforce stability in the law. Thomas has long been a critic of a strict reading of the doctrine.


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clarence-thomas-says-government-institutions-shouldn-t-be-bullied-following-leak-of-draft-opinion-on-abortion/ar-AAX0oIa



You can't have stable institutions if the people in them are not subject to the same rules the rest of the public is. Lying on a job application and/or an interview is grounds for dismissal in any private organization.

You guys already have lifetime tenure. You need to stop acting like you're royalty.
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Clarence Thomas says government institutions shouldn't be 'bullied' following leak of draft opinion (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 OP
Thomas, you work for the people. You are a paid employee for the people! Get over it! All of you! nt RKP5637 May 2022 #1
What he said. twodogsbarking May 2022 #46
SC so upset, their "privacy was violated" and they are being "bullied." Irish_Dem May 2022 #2
what a callous hypocrite.. agingdem May 2022 #13
The irony of whining about the court's privacy wnylib May 2022 #26
Yep. If this was a novel, it wouldn't be believable. Irish_Dem May 2022 #29
So... Roy Rolling May 2022 #41
They don't even pretend anymore. Irish_Dem May 2022 #45
YES! zanana1 May 2022 #66
Well said PatSeg May 2022 #48
Well, Clarence always was a world class whiner. 🙄 ShazzieB May 2022 #56
the supremes are about to MOMFUDSKI May 2022 #3
Fuck you Clarence Botany May 2022 #4
THIS SunSeeker May 2022 #31
Because bullying is not enough ArizonaLib May 2022 #47
Oh yes, that is perfect! PatSeg May 2022 #49
What Frau Ginni said... Kid Berwyn May 2022 #51
And the wife who's riding on your robe tails. She IS a lying bully and gets access because of you. usaf-vet May 2022 #57
Fuck you Clarence Thomas and your loud mouthed wife too. GoldandSilver May 2022 #64
Shut up already They_Live May 2022 #5
And your wife, one of the biggest bullies ...... Lovie777 May 2022 #6
Even after over 30 years on the SC, he still is not qualified. madaboutharry May 2022 #7
Doing what he was appointed to do, wnylib May 2022 #27
You are absolutely right Justice Thomas! OldBaldy1701E May 2022 #8
This from a man who abused and sexually harassed women. Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #25
Sounds Like A Man Defending DallasNE May 2022 #10
I feel you. It's hard when people get all up in your personal business, right? herding cats May 2022 #11
Also, where is the SC's right to privacy from leaks wnylib May 2022 #28
Let me check... herding cats May 2022 #34
If this draft turns out to be the decision, I want to know how and who can start impeachment sinkingfeeling May 2022 #12
Congress would do that, same as any wnylib May 2022 #30
Blah, blah, blah... dlk May 2022 #14
Wow Rebl2 May 2022 #15
blah blah blah pfitz59 May 2022 #16
Clarence Thomas lordsummerisle May 2022 #17
Just Shut Up Mr. Thomas colsohlibgal May 2022 #18
Take your Opus Dei whip and flagellate yoself Captain Zero May 2022 #62
"Bully" from this soulless tormentor, this STRIPPER OF THE HALF THE NATION'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. ancianita May 2022 #19
He can speak??? FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #20
I always thought it was.... SergeStorms May 2022 #33
Oh i'm sorry Hieronymus Phact May 2022 #21
That gurgling noise we just heard...... lastlib May 2022 #58
Rmember when he said government institutions shouldn't be 'bullied' following an election? Beartracks May 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #23
He needs to find a different place to exist. LiberalFighter May 2022 #24
Let's take another look at the 2nd amendment then. SergeStorms May 2022 #32
That is a real good point. The Jungle 1 May 2022 #67
Dunning Kruger effect--the incompetent think they are competent spooky3 May 2022 #35
Bless your heart, Clarence. tavernier May 2022 #36
says the guy whose wife incited the storming of the Capitol to overthrow an election. ZonkerHarris May 2022 #37
That's a weird sylogism. He's saying he doesn't want a free society. NullTuples May 2022 #38
Yeah, save the bullying and intimidation for the women who have to work for you! LudwigPastorius May 2022 #39
Unless he was saying this to his grinning psychopath wife. I'd suggest Carlitos Brigante May 2022 #40
Where I live, the city has to have public hearings before changing stuff bhikkhu May 2022 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author bhikkhu May 2022 #43
Is he for real, is wife was part of the insurrection omg wildman76 May 2022 #44
A pubic hair on a can of Coke deserves more respect than Clarence Thomas. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #50
Anonymous do you hear him? bluestarone May 2022 #52
Said the corrupt bully... dlk May 2022 #53
Crybaby Clarence BlueIdaho May 2022 #54
Mr. Thomas, what about having officials who have some integrity??? Trust_Reality May 2022 #55
and a wife of a SC justice shouldn't be part of an insurrection JohnSJ May 2022 #59
I would call most, if not all, of the opinions expressed by Justice Thomas to be a form of bullying. Martin68 May 2022 #60
Law clerks shouldn't be bullied, either, you blob of Super Fund waste. stollen May 2022 #61
Says the man who bullied Anita Hill. sarcasmo May 2022 #63
"...you cannot have a free society" without stable institutions. Grins May 2022 #65
Wrong direction. The Jungle 1 May 2022 #68
I know that what I am going to say will be unpopular but... melm00se May 2022 #69
All of what you say is true, but.... COL Mustard May 2022 #70
Clarence got sliced and diced on social media Larissa May 2022 #71
Who knew he had such a wicked sense of humor. mahina May 2022 #72
"Bullying" is way less severe than the "Lynching" he suffered during his confirmation hearings JustABozoOnThisBus May 2022 #73
Tell that to your wife who helped organize an insurrection against the Capitol lees1975 May 2022 #74
How could they be "bullied." treestar May 2022 #75

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Thomas, you work for the people. You are a paid employee for the people! Get over it! All of you! nt
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:37 PM
May 2022

Irish_Dem

(78,972 posts)
2. SC so upset, their "privacy was violated" and they are being "bullied."
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:38 PM
May 2022

Because some of their work got leaked ahead of time.

What total spoiled privileged people who inflict untold pain and suffering upon Americans.

agingdem

(8,738 posts)
13. what a callous hypocrite..
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:48 PM
May 2022

Last edited Fri May 6, 2022, 09:40 PM - Edit history (2)

the asshole wants to violate a woman's privacy...he wants to lay claim to our uteruses, dictate who we sleep with, and throw away our health care..and he's upset about a leak?...I do hope there's a special hell for Thomas, his vile wife, and his like minded incompetent 4.....fyi, Clarence, a "leak" is you pissing on our rights..got it???

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
26. The irony of whining about the court's privacy
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:08 PM
May 2022

over a decision by the court to deny privacy rights to citizens.

You can't make this up.

Irish_Dem

(78,972 posts)
29. Yep. If this was a novel, it wouldn't be believable.
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:19 PM
May 2022

And would be considered bad writing.

Roy Rolling

(7,382 posts)
41. So...
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:50 AM
May 2022

He’s upset about a leak from the Supreme Court being blatantly political, so he steps into the spotlight with his own published political opinion.

Yes, he is that clueless. He married a zealot.

Irish_Dem

(78,972 posts)
45. They don't even pretend anymore.
Sat May 7, 2022, 05:54 AM
May 2022

Trump didn't pretend to be a POTUS. He was a crime boss.
And the GOP SC justices are showing us they are just political hacks.

A combination of not being smart enough or care enough to pretend.

ShazzieB

(22,108 posts)
56. Well, Clarence always was a world class whiner. 🙄
Sat May 7, 2022, 09:39 AM
May 2022

Remember his "high tech lynching" remark?

So of course he's going to whine now. That's what he does.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
3. the supremes are about to
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:38 PM
May 2022

take away my free society so ask me if I care about your feelings Mr. Long Dong.

Botany

(76,159 posts)
4. Fuck you Clarence
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:39 PM
May 2022

"... government institutions shouldn't be "bullied" into delivering what some see as the preferred outcome."




And this bully behavior was brought to us in part from Ginni Thomas.

ArizonaLib

(1,283 posts)
47. Because bullying is not enough
Sat May 7, 2022, 06:21 AM
May 2022

They should be broken into, stopped and hunted down while chanting about hanging the vice president and taunting the Speaker by calling out that you are 'coming for her'.

This is why he limits comments to words like 'bullied'.

Kid Berwyn

(22,614 posts)
51. What Frau Ginni said...
Sat May 7, 2022, 08:10 AM
May 2022

From Yahoo:

In the weeks between the 2020 election and the January 6 insurrection, Ginni Thomas sent multiple text messages to Mark Meadows, former President Donald Trump's chief of staff, urging them to challenge the election results. The texts were obtained by The Washington Post and CBS News.

"Do not concede," Ginni Thomas instructed Meadows in a text sent on November 6, 2020. "It takes time for the army who is gathering for his back."

Days later, after the election had been called for President Joe Biden, Ginni Thomas texted Meadows telling him to help Trump "stand firm," adding: "You are the leader, with him, who is standing for America's constitutional governance at the precipice. The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History."

Some of the texts also included claims about voter fraud and cheered on efforts by Trump allies to challenge the results in court.

Her husband, along with the rest of the Supreme Court, ruled on some of those cases.

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/justice-clarence-thomas-expressed-worry-050527079.html

She’s lousy at English, too.

usaf-vet

(7,740 posts)
57. And the wife who's riding on your robe tails. She IS a lying bully and gets access because of you.
Sat May 7, 2022, 10:05 AM
May 2022

Lovie777

(21,480 posts)
6. And your wife, one of the biggest bullies ......
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:39 PM
May 2022

and domestic terrorist, and her husband say what?

madaboutharry

(42,025 posts)
7. Even after over 30 years on the SC, he still is not qualified.
Fri May 6, 2022, 07:44 PM
May 2022

Thomas is a small petty man. And a liar.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
27. Doing what he was appointed to do,
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:11 PM
May 2022

follow directions and agree with predetermined decisions for the RW.

No character, integrity, or brains.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,889 posts)
8. You are absolutely right Justice Thomas!
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:01 PM
May 2022

The various representatives of this governmental structure that was created of, by, and for the people should never make a decision that is the will of... GASP... the people! (I mean, the people don't pay you near the grift that the rethug dark doners give you in unacknowledged funds now do they?)

Response to Haggis 4 Breakfast (Reply #9)

DallasNE

(7,944 posts)
10. Sounds Like A Man Defending
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:10 PM
May 2022

The leaker of the document - so was wife Genni Thomas the leaker? Inquiring minds want to know.

herding cats

(19,967 posts)
11. I feel you. It's hard when people get all up in your personal business, right?
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:44 PM
May 2022

Peering at your personal things not meant for public consumption. That shit freaking sucks, right?

Oh, I'm reminded of a woman's right to privacy between her and her doctor... but, that's not in the Constitution, right?

Now point out, kindly, where your express right to privacy supersedes these women's, please?

I'll be waiting.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
28. Also, where is the SC's right to privacy from leaks
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:13 PM
May 2022

mentioned in the Constitution? If it ain't there, it doesn't exist, right?

herding cats

(19,967 posts)
34. Let me check...
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:41 PM
May 2022

Nope, I've got nothing. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Someone must be making this crap up, because there's no express written right to their privacy.

There HR must be amazing if this crap bubbled up to the MSM from there. A lot of people with real, impactful HR issues are watching and confused right now.

sinkingfeeling

(56,989 posts)
12. If this draft turns out to be the decision, I want to know how and who can start impeachment
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:44 PM
May 2022

against the justices who lied to Congress.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
30. Congress would do that, same as any
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:20 PM
May 2022

impeachment and trial. So they might get impeached, but will never be convicted.

dlk

(13,086 posts)
14. Blah, blah, blah...
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:49 PM
May 2022

Thomas is the worst kind of hypocrite and hack. His words are meaningless.

Rebl2

(17,277 posts)
15. Wow
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:51 PM
May 2022

They shouldn’t be bullied? Now he knows how the rest of us feel. Like you say, they act like they are royalty.

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
18. Just Shut Up Mr. Thomas
Fri May 6, 2022, 09:18 PM
May 2022

You and your evil wife are vile....same four letters rearranged that describes both of them either way.

ancianita

(42,729 posts)
19. "Bully" from this soulless tormentor, this STRIPPER OF THE HALF THE NATION'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
Fri May 6, 2022, 09:25 PM
May 2022

Fuck this trifling robed robber of rights.

SergeStorms

(19,879 posts)
33. I always thought it was....
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:34 PM
May 2022

Scalia passing wind. I guess it must be Alito now, because he's certainly not bright enough to think of anything original.

lastlib

(27,362 posts)
58. That gurgling noise we just heard......
Sat May 7, 2022, 10:34 AM
May 2022

...was clarence speaking, trying to sound intelligent. Just ignore it.

Beartracks

(14,278 posts)
22. Rmember when he said government institutions shouldn't be 'bullied' following an election?
Fri May 6, 2022, 09:48 PM
May 2022

[crickets]

Bueller? Bueller?

==============

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,879 posts)
32. Let's take another look at the 2nd amendment then.
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:31 PM
May 2022

I'm all for having guns for those who hunt for food, or having a shotgun in the home for protection, but there is absolutely no need for anyone to own an assault rifle. None.

So the next time we have a liberal Supreme Court let's revisit that 2nd amendment.

How about that, Clarence? What a fucking asshole.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
67. That is a real good point.
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:09 AM
May 2022

The right is setting a precedent they may regret!
Yes clarence is a cuckold asshole.

spooky3

(38,201 posts)
35. Dunning Kruger effect--the incompetent think they are competent
Fri May 6, 2022, 10:44 PM
May 2022

so they continue not to self-correct. In the case of the the SC “majority”, they layer on arrogance. They are proud and feel superior when voters disagree with them.

A horribly toxic, illegitimate combination.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
38. That's a weird sylogism. He's saying he doesn't want a free society.
Fri May 6, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

"You cannot have a free society without stable institutions"

"Justices shouldn't be bound by stare decisis"

The doctrine of stare decisis is one of the underlying agents of stability in American law.

LudwigPastorius

(14,004 posts)
39. Yeah, save the bullying and intimidation for the women who have to work for you!
Fri May 6, 2022, 11:36 PM
May 2022

Last edited Sat May 7, 2022, 12:14 AM - Edit history (1)



Right, Clarence?



 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
40. Unless he was saying this to his grinning psychopath wife. I'd suggest
Sat May 7, 2022, 12:28 AM
May 2022

he keep his dumb ass mouth shut. Kinda like he's done for decades sitting on his fat ass in court.

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
42. Where I live, the city has to have public hearings before changing stuff
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:32 AM
May 2022

...so the people who pay their bills and live there have a say. That's known as "democracy", or "representative government", generally.

If the Supreme Court feels like that's a problem, then maybe the Supreme Court is the problem.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Martin68

(26,884 posts)
60. I would call most, if not all, of the opinions expressed by Justice Thomas to be a form of bullying.
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:17 PM
May 2022

The worst kind of bullying, because it is always aimed at someone weaker than he is.

stollen

(1,033 posts)
61. Law clerks shouldn't be bullied, either, you blob of Super Fund waste.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:40 PM
May 2022

You're on my bucket list for a big celebration upon your demise. You are useless in every way to the planet.

Grins

(9,197 posts)
65. "...you cannot have a free society" without stable institutions.
Sun May 8, 2022, 12:12 AM
May 2022

Tell that to Steve Bannon and the rest of the Reich that want to destroy “the administrative state.”

And have done a pretty good job…

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
68. Wrong direction.
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:16 AM
May 2022

Forced pregnancy is the practice of forcing a woman to become pregnant, often as part of a forced marriage, or as part of a program of breeding slaves, or as part of a program of genocide. Forced pregnancy is a form of reproductive coercion. It is also a crime against humanity according to the Geneva Convention.

melm00se

(5,141 posts)
69. I know that what I am going to say will be unpopular but...
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:37 AM
May 2022

The Supreme Court needs to make its decisions based upon the law with a strong eye on the rights of the People involved.

These decisions may not be popular and may not make the majority of the People happy but the Court is not there to be popular but to adjudicate the law(s) as they are written.

The main reason for this is to prevent the "tyranny of the majority".

And, for the most part and with a few exceptions, that is exactly what they accomplish.

Because they are human, they will make mistakes and errors in judgment and interpretation, as we live within this form of government with checks and balances, We the People should rely on the other branches to use their powers of "check and balance" to steer the ship back to the correct course.

COL Mustard

(7,912 posts)
70. All of what you say is true, but....
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:04 AM
May 2022

The arc of American history is generally toward more freedoms and greater rights for everyone. When the Supreme Court starts rolling those rights and that freedom back, it's going to be ugly in the aftermath. And where do they stop? If you take away this very private and personal decision, what's next? Can they decide who you'll marry? How you can vote? Where does it end?

This is very concerning (not in the Susan Collins way - I'm very concerned) and bodes ill for the future of our Country. I hope the ultimate opinion is different from what was leaked.

Larissa

(793 posts)
71. Clarence got sliced and diced on social media
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:24 PM
May 2022

The so-called "Supreme" court has lost a great deal of respect in the public eye. It's been downhill since it was packed with "yes" men, frat hall beer drunks (look at his teeth: projectile vomiting from lost weekends wears down the enamel), career misogynists and cultists with little or no knowledge about the law of the land.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,554 posts)
73. "Bullying" is way less severe than the "Lynching" he suffered during his confirmation hearings
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:38 PM
May 2022

His ordeals are almost biblical, in his mind.

lees1975

(6,882 posts)
74. Tell that to your wife who helped organize an insurrection against the Capitol
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:56 PM
May 2022

and see how it goes over.

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