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riversedge

(80,822 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:08 PM Jan 2021

US takes back its assertion that Capitol rioters wanted to 'capture and assassinate' officials

Source: CNN






Updated 5:46 PM ET, Fri January 15, 2021


(CNN)Justice Department prosecutors have formally walked back their assertion in a court filing that said Capitol rioters sought to "capture and assassinate elected officials."

A federal prosecutor in Arizona asked a magistrate judge in a hearing on Friday to strike the line in a recent court filing about defendant Jacob Anthony Chansley, a man who is alleged to have led some in the crowd in the first wave into the Capitol with a bullhorn while carrying a spear and wearing a fur headdress.

The entire line the prosecutors want to omit from their court filing is: "Strong evidence, including Chansley's own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government."

The stunning move comes a few hours after the Michael Sherwin, the acting US attorney in Washington, DC, said at a press conference there was "no direct evidence of kill and capture teams" at this time in the siege of the Capitol building. ...................

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/capitol-capture-assassinate-elected-officials/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2021-01-15T22%3A53%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image



This is not a good optic for the Justice Dept.





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US takes back its assertion that Capitol rioters wanted to 'capture and assassinate' officials (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2021 OP
It will be reinserted on January 21. Sneederbunk Jan 2021 #1
They're trying to write revisionist history as we speak. DEbluedude Jan 2021 #2
The real investigation starts 1/20/21. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #3
Yes! The REAL truth will be told FakeNoose Jan 2021 #7
tick tock mudder fudders alphafemale Jan 2021 #4
I knew something like this orangecrush Jan 2021 #5
You Should Never Plead What You Can't Prove in Criminal Indictments Stallion Jan 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2021 #13
If the Trump Justice Dept. had its way Yeehah Jan 2021 #8
Trump is obviously still the president. Kablooie Jan 2021 #9
What about rioters shouting HANG PENCE? Really? TigressDem Jan 2021 #10
And all light-hearted gatherings feature a noose and guys running around with flex cuffs, amirite? catrose Jan 2021 #12
Ya' got a point. nt TigressDem Jan 2021 #15
Well... A_Woman_from_MI Jan 2021 #26
Sadly, yes catrose Jan 2021 #28
Guess they were kidding mountain grammy Jan 2021 #19
They shouldn't be doing that with goats. Disgusting. TigressDem Jan 2021 #23
I understand mountain grammy Jan 2021 #25
The zip ties and the gallows were wnylib Jan 2021 #33
5 days... BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #11
So, the Hang Mike Pence chant MontanaMama Jan 2021 #14
I think they intend to play their cards close to their chest. Gore1FL Jan 2021 #16
BULLSHIT! COVER-UP!!! A Whitewash is under way as we watch. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #17
What was the fracas going on where they were trying to wedge some security doors. Arne Jan 2021 #20
Totally agree. Jay25 Jan 2021 #24
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #31
Damn right! amb123 Jan 2021 #32
So chanting, "Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!" doesn't mean you tclambert Jan 2021 #18
MSM for fucks sake Cheezoholic Jan 2021 #21
Looks like Sherwin is one of Barr's fixers. LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #22
"retire the name Operation Warp Speed" Talitha Jan 2021 #27
Starting to look like taking it back was a hasty decision... mpcamb Jan 2021 #29
"Kill Mike Pence!" Mz Pip Jan 2021 #30

OAITW r.2.0

(32,159 posts)
3. The real investigation starts 1/20/21.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:23 PM
Jan 2021

Sherwin, for whatever reason (Trump), is forcing the prosecutors to soften the charges. In 5 days, the US legal world changes. Then Sherwin and the perps will be dealt with.

orangecrush

(30,285 posts)
5. I knew something like this
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:44 PM
Jan 2021

Would be coming.

To be investigated after Biden is sworn in.

More Trump tactics cause doubt chaos and confusion.

Stallion

(6,642 posts)
6. You Should Never Plead What You Can't Prove in Criminal Indictments
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jan 2021

or the defense counsel will beat the failure of the government to prove its case to the jury. You can always supplement or amend later

Response to Stallion (Reply #6)

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
10. What about rioters shouting HANG PENCE? Really?
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe not ALL the rioters got the memo, but they were also saying, "Shoot him with his own gun" about the DC Cop they dragged to the ground.

What the HELL?


catrose

(5,365 posts)
12. And all light-hearted gatherings feature a noose and guys running around with flex cuffs, amirite?
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jan 2021

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
23. They shouldn't be doing that with goats. Disgusting.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jan 2021



Sorry. Sick humor keeps the brain from exploding sometimes.


wnylib

(26,027 posts)
33. The zip ties and the gallows were
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jan 2021

just props, doncha know? There for decor, not for use.

For the irony challenged:

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
14. So, the Hang Mike Pence chant
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:44 PM
Jan 2021

and Bang Bang Barbie tweeting the Speaker’s location didn’t mean jack.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
16. I think they intend to play their cards close to their chest.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:50 PM
Jan 2021

I have no doubt they are chasing leads.

Ford_Prefect

(8,614 posts)
17. BULLSHIT! COVER-UP!!! A Whitewash is under way as we watch.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:15 AM
Jan 2021

I can accept that not every member of the crowd who went up the steps and into the Capitol was on a capture and assassinate mission.
I am reasonably sure many did not know why they were actually there. It was to serve as cover for those who indeed were there to capture and to kill, and to attempt to overturn the election by placing Trump on the throne of America, along with some who were there to loot secure files, documents, and devices.

This walk back of charges is not correct, based on statements seen online and recorded live feeds, based on confessions, based on what has been referred to as FBI or Police intelligence about some of the members of the riot.

This is an attempt to avoid claiming that the riot and sack of the Capitol was not a coordinated attack but a relatively spontaneous reaction to Trump's speech and immediately prior tweets. So far the intelligence shows that there were several layers to the crowd and within it were a number of individuals and groups of them with specific tasks and targets who behaved in a manner consistent with military or high level security training. They were observed in the CCT video from inside the Capitol, from individual phone videos, in video and stills from various press cameras, inside and outside of the building during the ruckus. Some were also seen taking tours of the building on Tuesday the 5th.

However they were coordinated and whomever they answered to and were paid by, they were there to perform specific tasks and see that certain events occurred. It appears they were unable to complete some of their mission due to the security measures taken to protect Congress and Senate members and staff.

This walk back is a left-handed attempt to obscure their presence and missions. I do not trust it or those who advocate it. We saw the same thing during Watergate and Iran-Contra. Charges were modified, evidence obscured, witnesses tampered with or their statements modified to obscure the facts. To muddy the waters surrounding what was in both cases conspiracy at the highest levels of government to subvert the express will of the people.

This is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!.
Not everyone in that crowd should be charged with the same attempted acts, IMO. However to say no one could be charged with attempted Kidnapping and possible murder is Wrong.

The powers that be are arranging to pull their strings to mute the truth and protect themselves, just as some in Congress are saying not to be too harsh on the rioters.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
20. What was the fracas going on where they were trying to wedge some security doors.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jan 2021

It looked like some tunnel type area and they were yelling and scrambling.

Jay25

(437 posts)
24. Totally agree.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:54 AM
Jan 2021

It will be a major mistake letting this go. It will further divide the country by emboldening white nationalists and a big fuck you to everyone else. Will definitely hurt Democrats.
It would also increase the likelihood of something like this happening again, but with smarter people and better planning. If they go about this investigation half-assed, it could further jeopardize our world standing.

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
18. So chanting, "Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!" doesn't mean you
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:19 AM
Jan 2021

want to kill any elected officials? I guess Mike Pence just doesn't count anymore.

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
21. MSM for fucks sake
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

Quit taking the bait. 5 days just 5 days. Take a break, go report on a duck frozen on a lake rescue or something. You guys have had a 4 year run. It's time to take a fucking break, the adults are back.

LudwigPastorius

(14,728 posts)
22. Looks like Sherwin is one of Barr's fixers.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jan 2021

He was moved into the D.C. U.S. Attorney's office after Barr reorganized it for having the temerity to prosecute Roger Stone. Sherwin was then promoted after Barr tried to intervene in the Michael Flynn case and prosecutors quit in protest.

Since then Sherwin has proven his loyalty to Trump by giving Flynn's defense team internal F.B.I. records, shutting down an investigation into an Egyptian state-owned bank that had given Trump a $10 million loan, and convicting a Chinese woman who trespassed at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort.

And, now his press conference pronouncement has cut the Arizona's prosecutors off at the knees.

The entire government needs to be DeTrumpified, starting with the Defense & Justice Departments!

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