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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 12:39 AM Sep 2020

Schumer, in rare move, takes control of floor to force health care vote

Source: CNN

(CNN)Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, in an extremely rare move Tuesday, took control of the Senate floor and is forcing a procedural vote on a bill, a step that is typically done only by the Senate majority leader.

The top Democrat's action now sets up a vote later this week related to a bill that would protect people with pre-existing conditions if the Supreme Court sides with the Trump administration's Department of Justice and strikes down the Affordable Care Act after arguments are heard in November.

Schumer's surprise steps were extraordinary because such motions are typically offered by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who controls the Senate and dictates what gets considered on the floor. Schumer has never before tried to force such a cloture vote in his time as the top minority leader, aides said.

The rules say any senator can do what Schumer did Tuesday but senators typically don't take these extreme steps because doing so regularly would shut down the Senate.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/chuck-schumer-forces-health-care-vote/index.html

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Schumer, in rare move, takes control of floor to force health care vote (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
so can we do this daily ? dweller Sep 2020 #1
Wait, what? Why is THIS not the plan now? lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #23
"doing so regularly would shut down the Senate" NYC Liberal Sep 2020 #2
Actually, shutting down the Senate sounds like a good idea padfun Sep 2020 #3
Yeah, let's do a cloture vote every day until Jan 20 2021. ancianita Sep 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author nykym Sep 2020 #26
I fourth the motion mjvpi Sep 2020 #4
Why didn't he do this a long time ago? n/t Bev54 Sep 2020 #5
Call the Senate (202) 224-3121 BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #6
Hmm. My Senator IS Schumer. wnylib Sep 2020 #17
Yes, and thank him for all of us! BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #20
Good. Shut down the Senate. SergeStorms Sep 2020 #8
! Excactly! ffr Sep 2020 #11
They Could Do That To Name Post Office Buildings DallasNE Sep 2020 #12
I propose we start with the Old Post Office in DC; currently has "Trump Hotel" plastered on it. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #24
What?! Roy Rolling Sep 2020 #9
So, Schumer - or any other Dem Senator - have had the ability to do this all along??? scarletwoman Sep 2020 #10
The time to do this is after SC nomination has cleared the Judiciary Committee lastlib Sep 2020 #22
Is that now what McConnell will be doing to us after January? moonscape Sep 2020 #30
That's what people seem to be saying is an okay practice. Igel Sep 2020 #34
Why have you not gone to extremes like this before now, Schumer? calimary Sep 2020 #13
Exactly We need a partisan rattfu**er right now not a technocrat BlueNProud Sep 2020 #28
I want somebody who fights dirty like the bad guys do. calimary Sep 2020 #31
More of this, please. BadgerMom Sep 2020 #14
"doing so regularly would shut down the Senate" SeattleVet Sep 2020 #15
The first of many I hope proud patriot Sep 2020 #16
The only "work" the senate gets done on a typical day is ALBliberal Sep 2020 #18
Extreme times require extreme measures BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #19
He may have done it to se a "precedent" for the remainder of the time before the election.... George II Sep 2020 #21
WOW! i hope THIS is our answer! bluestarone Sep 2020 #25
If Chuck as been holding back, Nancy has been holding back. Hotler Sep 2020 #27
Schumer needs only to ask himself one question before on embarking on this regularly... AKing Sep 2020 #29
If these aren't desperate times calling for desperate measures, then what is ? Pluvious Sep 2020 #32
Shut down the senate, you say? Politicub Sep 2020 #33
Good job Chuck! WhiteTara Sep 2020 #35

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
2. "doing so regularly would shut down the Senate"
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 12:56 AM
Sep 2020

Sounds like we need to be doing it regularly then.

padfun

(1,897 posts)
3. Actually, shutting down the Senate sounds like a good idea
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 12:58 AM
Sep 2020

until the next senate takes over.

Response to ancianita (Reply #7)

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
6. Call the Senate (202) 224-3121
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:13 AM
Sep 2020

Encourage the Dems and tell the GOP that they won't get reelected if they don't support the ACA!

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
8. Good. Shut down the Senate.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:29 AM
Sep 2020

Trump won't get his handmaiden SC judge, and it's not like McConnell wants to do anything but seat judges anyway. It's time to start fucking with republican Senators BIGLY!

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
12. They Could Do That To Name Post Office Buildings
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:47 AM
Sep 2020

Start off by naming one for Hillary Clinton and then go from there.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. I propose we start with the Old Post Office in DC; currently has "Trump Hotel" plastered on it.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:31 AM
Sep 2020

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
9. What?!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:39 AM
Sep 2020

If the Senate has multiple cloture votes, it will delay the Supreme Court nominee hearings.

Damn shame.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
10. So, Schumer - or any other Dem Senator - have had the ability to do this all along???
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:39 AM
Sep 2020

WTF!?!?

Then why the hell haven't they been using that particular power instead of spending all these years getting rolled by McConnell and the Republicans???

Seems like this is exactly the kind of hardball that's been needed for some time. Yes, by all means "shut down the Senate" - I fail to see a downside at this point.

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
30. Is that now what McConnell will be doing to us after January?
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

Not saying I'm not in favor, but McConnell is obviously far more ruthless than we are.

We have so much to get done

Igel

(37,535 posts)
34. That's what people seem to be saying is an okay practice.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 05:59 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, the only proper thing to do would be to use it now, and then in January change the rules.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
13. Why have you not gone to extremes like this before now, Schumer?
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:50 AM
Sep 2020

So sick of you pulling your punches, talking a good game and then doing nothing to back it up.

I want you to fight dirty. Fight like a republi-CON. They get it done. It's always all the wrong stuff. But they sure do make it happen.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
31. I want somebody who fights dirty like the bad guys do.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:33 PM
Sep 2020

Besides, the bad guys won’t be expecting that behavior. It might knock them off their guard. It’s uncharacteristic behavior and they’ll be prepared for more mushmouth and what passes for alleged backbones.

No fight will EVER be “fair” as long as only one side plays by rules and the other refuses to. The playing field MUST be level for a true, legitimate “fair fight.” And under the present conditions, seems to me, the only way to level the playing field is for OUR side to get tough, sneaky, and ruthless. Just like THEY do.

ALBliberal

(3,339 posts)
18. The only "work" the senate gets done on a typical day is
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:42 AM
Sep 2020

voting on federal judges. Rarely is there any other business (not any stimulus package at this time). Shut it down every damn day.

BumRushDaShow

(169,746 posts)
19. Extreme times require extreme measures
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:58 AM
Sep 2020

All manner of decorum and respect has been eliminated by Turtle and if there are "rules" that are available to use, then dammit, use them!

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. He may have done it to se a "precedent" for the remainder of the time before the election....
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:55 AM
Sep 2020

And has others lined up to do likewise to delay a vote on Barrett.

If true, that's a wise move.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
27. If Chuck as been holding back, Nancy has been holding back.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 11:06 AM
Sep 2020
I we come out on top this election, we need new leaders in the House and the Senate. We need a lot more bark and a lot more bite out of our leaders.

AKing

(511 posts)
29. Schumer needs only to ask himself one question before on embarking on this regularly...
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 11:48 AM
Sep 2020

In a similar situation would Moscow Mitch....use the same tactic?

You may now proceed Senator Schumer with a clear conscience.

Pluvious

(5,395 posts)
32. If these aren't desperate times calling for desperate measures, then what is ?
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:47 PM
Sep 2020

This is kinna like the final play, the hail Mary pass, the blow the bridges out behind us ?

The future isn't looking bright, just very very murky.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
35. Good job Chuck!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 06:08 PM
Sep 2020

Now keep up the pressure. You succeeded once so now you know how to do it! Do it every day!

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