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Eugene

(66,704 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:04 PM Dec 2018

US judge orders North Korea to pay $500M in student's death

Source: Associated Press

By ERIC TUCKER
30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge ordered North Korea to pay more than $500 million on Monday in a wrongful death suit filed by the parents of Otto Warmbier, an American college student who died shortly after being released from that country.

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell in Washington ruled that North Korea should pay damages to Fred and Cindy Warmbier, the parents of the University of Virginia student.

Warmbier was a University of Virginia student who was visiting North Korea with a tour group when he was arrested and sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in March 2016 on suspicion of stealing a propaganda poster. He died in June 2017, shortly after he returned to the U.S. in a coma and showing apparent signs of torture while in custody.

The judgment is largely a symbolic victory for now, since there is no mechanism to force North Korea to pay.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/fd9f6d7cfd6948a4adaa81d3c021cebc

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US judge orders North Korea to pay $500M in student's death (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2018 OP
Lots of luck collection on that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #1
Stay out of hostile foreign countries bitterross Dec 2018 #2
Hostile foreign countries? Cold War Spook Dec 2018 #6
Was he evangelizing? treestar Dec 2018 #18
Never steal something in a country gay texan Dec 2018 #20
agree I would not go there treestar Dec 2018 #21
Vietnam is open to tourists gay texan Dec 2018 #22
Getting Trump to pay a judgment is easier than North Korea. no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #3
Will Mexico tell the US to pay torius Dec 2018 #4
North Korea isn't a totalitarian theme park.. LeftinOH Dec 2018 #5
China should pay this, they own NK. A capitalist paradise flooding our country with cheap junk elmac Dec 2018 #7
Trump should pay the judgement since it was his incompetence... clementine613 Dec 2018 #8
How was this Trump's fault? sarisataka Dec 2018 #9
I can't say for certain that he did, but I wouldn't put it past him. clementine613 Dec 2018 #11
He was kidnapped when Obama was President. former9thward Dec 2018 #23
The kid got arrested in North Korea in January 2016 Polybius Dec 2018 #14
Exactly nt sarisataka Dec 2018 #15
True. Although the Orange Dolt did blame Obama for his being there treestar Dec 2018 #19
Trump wasn't even President when the kid got arrested Polybius Dec 2018 #13
Must be fake news. Dotard said Rocketman was very honorable. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #10
should have asked for 20 trillion so we could pay off the national debt Takket Dec 2018 #12
$500 million for this college man. How much for a 7-year old girl? lostnfound Dec 2018 #16
Good luck collecting that. Nitram Dec 2018 #17

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,064 posts)
1. Lots of luck collection on that
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

I wonder if Trump will intervene like he did with Jamal Kashoggi.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
2. Stay out of hostile foreign countries
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:12 PM
Dec 2018

Yes, I feel for the family's loss. I'm not a total ass.

However, the idea of going to N. Korea on a tour with a touring company known for its party-hearty atmosphere was a bad idea and the students knew there were risks. You don't go to a totalitarian state where the people are starving to have a "fun-filled, adventure." In fact, the very idea of that is indecent and immoral. There are plenty of other travel destinations that promise exotic adventures.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
6. Hostile foreign countries?
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:50 PM
Dec 2018

There are states I won't go to. I have tendencies to open my big mouth when in the presence of idiots.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. Was he evangelizing?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:31 PM
Dec 2018

At least some have. The only worse decision is evangelizing at North Sentinal Island.

On edit, he wasn't. He was the one who stole a propaganda poster.

gay texan

(3,139 posts)
20. Never steal something in a country
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:25 PM
Dec 2018

That despises you. It won't end well. Better yet, stay out of the fucking country altogether.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. agree I would not go there
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:27 PM
Dec 2018

If curious, there are plenty of videos on you-tube from people who did go.

Of course, they restrict where they can take video, but will let people film the countryside and Pyongyang.

gay texan

(3,139 posts)
22. Vietnam is open to tourists
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:35 PM
Dec 2018

I'd much rather go there. North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Yemen, Libya, Lebanon, and Siberia are the last places I would want to visit

LeftinOH

(5,610 posts)
5. North Korea isn't a totalitarian theme park..
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:40 PM
Dec 2018

Yes- what happened to that kid was awful, and unjust. At a distance, it is easy to casually regard North Korea as a sort of vintage totalitarian version of colonial Williamsburg VA (they even sell their own propaganda posters as souvenirs...he didn't have to steal one). I've even thought how interesting it might be to see such a ridiculous culture first hand, but this tragedy proves that North Koreans consider their malarkey worth killing for.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. China should pay this, they own NK. A capitalist paradise flooding our country with cheap junk
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:57 PM
Dec 2018

I think they can afford the 500m, no prob. If not, tax all the US corps making the cheap junk over there.

clementine613

(561 posts)
8. Trump should pay the judgement since it was his incompetence...
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 05:30 PM
Dec 2018

... that got the kid kidnapped and killed.

clementine613

(561 posts)
11. I can't say for certain that he did, but I wouldn't put it past him.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 09:04 PM
Dec 2018

Nonetheless, the kid died on Trump's watch and due to Trump's diplomatic failure to get him back safely.

Polybius

(21,329 posts)
14. The kid got arrested in North Korea in January 2016
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 10:33 PM
Dec 2018

A year before Trump even took office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. True. Although the Orange Dolt did blame Obama for his being there
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:34 PM
Dec 2018

and claimed that he (the Orange Dolt) could fix it all.

Polybius

(21,329 posts)
13. Trump wasn't even President when the kid got arrested
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 10:32 PM
Dec 2018

He was arrested in North Korea in January 2016.

Takket

(23,414 posts)
12. should have asked for 20 trillion so we could pay off the national debt
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 09:41 PM
Dec 2018

and some for a rainy day

lostnfound

(17,362 posts)
16. $500 million for this college man. How much for a 7-year old girl?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:08 AM
Dec 2018

Sure it’s different.
From the bare facts, though, both were young people who died in the hands of a foreign country that detained them.

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