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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:55 PM Feb 2018

Prominent Republican Donor Issues Ultimatum on Assault Weapons

Source: The New York Times




By ALEXANDER BURNSFEB. 17, 2018

A prominent Republican political donor demanded on Saturday that the party pass legislation to restrict access to guns, and vowed not to contribute to any candidates or electioneering groups that did not support a ban on the sale of military-style firearms to civilians.

Al Hoffman Jr., a Florida-based real estate developer who was a leading fund-raiser for George W. Bush’s campaigns, said he would seek to marshal support among other Republican political donors for a renewed assault weapons ban.

“For how many years now have we been doing this — having these experiences of terrorism, mass killings — and how many years has it been that nothing’s been done?” Mr. Hoffman said in an interview. “It’s the end of the road for me.”

Mr. Hoffman announced his ultimatum in an email to half a dozen Republican leaders, including Jeb Bush and Gov. Rick Scott of Florida. He wrote in the email that he would not give money to Mr. Scott, who is considering a campaign for the Senate in 2018, or other Florida Republicans he has backed in the past, including Representative Brian Mast, if they did not support new gun legislation.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/us/prominent-republican-donor-issues-ultimatum-on-assault-weapons.html?smid=tw-share

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Prominent Republican Donor Issues Ultimatum on Assault Weapons (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Did either Adelson or Wynn come out against assault rifles after Vegas? dem4decades Feb 2018 #1
Adelson will never speak against the Gun Lobby. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #6
I was at a party in Las Vegas in 2004 where Adelson was a guest. stopbush Feb 2018 #27
Uzi supposed weapon of choice for a party? What a creep. Hortensis Feb 2018 #31
Maybe there is hope, although TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #2
I know what you mean, PatSeg Feb 2018 #16
Bit late to the party cvoogt Feb 2018 #3
How is it late to the party when we don't have gun control ? JI7 Feb 2018 #19
Because.. cvoogt Feb 2018 #29
As you say, late but a welcome voice that speaks a lot Hortensis Feb 2018 #32
I'm pretty jaded. I would doubt this person has as much money to throw around as the nra mucifer Feb 2018 #4
Won't matter n/t hibbing Feb 2018 #5
Sad to see the negative responses to this here, elleng Feb 2018 #7
I agree. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #11
Thanks, Jedi Guy. elleng Feb 2018 #13
You're welcome! Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #17
Well said. femmedem Feb 2018 #14
Thanks for the welcome! Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #15
YES. elleng Feb 2018 #18
Agreed. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2018 #21
Every little drip will help. I support his response to this issue. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #23
I agree as well. BadgerMom Feb 2018 #24
probably not even close to NRA $, but looks like he has plenty Motley13 Feb 2018 #8
Well, it's a dribble. Trump should know him and now we've seen his threat in writing. Remember Frustratedlady Feb 2018 #9
Eventually the costs Turbineguy Feb 2018 #10
Well, it's a start Hekate Feb 2018 #12
Good for him, we need everyone to support common sense. Conservative parties in other countries JI7 Feb 2018 #20
the fractures are appearing and I expect to see more of these statements as even republicans are beachbum bob Feb 2018 #22
I'd love for the gun control changes to be revolutionary, but that won't happen, so baby steps are iluvtennis Feb 2018 #25
Have to hit 'em in the pocket book Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #26
All the demands from constituents for reasonable gun laws have fallen on deaf ears dflprincess Feb 2018 #28
Well, its not the voters Dan Feb 2018 #30
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #33
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Adelson will never speak against the Gun Lobby.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:23 PM
Feb 2018

And as far as Wynn,he is staying away from the Public .

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
27. I was at a party in Las Vegas in 2004 where Adelson was a guest.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:22 PM
Feb 2018

He was accompanied by two bodyguards packing Uzis.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
2. Maybe there is hope, although
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

I still would not trust a republican as far as I could throw him.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
16. I know what you mean,
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:17 PM
Feb 2018

but I need to know that at least some of them have a soul. With so many, there doesn't seem to be a bottom to how low they will go.

No one is safe from gun violence in this country. No amount of money or power can protect you from a heavily armed person with an intent to kill as many people as possible.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
29. Because..
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:22 AM
Feb 2018

Just like the rest of us he's seen the news all these years and only NOW he appears to be coming to his senses.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. As you say, late but a welcome voice that speaks a lot
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:41 AM
Feb 2018

more powerfully than most of their constituents'.

We're in the middle of this right now, of course, and can't see ahead. But could this finally be a tipping point, where doubt growing on the right from all the severely immoral and destructive Republican positions is weakening opposition to the one issue of gun control?

mucifer

(25,667 posts)
4. I'm pretty jaded. I would doubt this person has as much money to throw around as the nra
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:07 PM
Feb 2018

elleng

(141,926 posts)
7. Sad to see the negative responses to this here,
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:30 PM
Feb 2018

this is at least a beginning, and if Democrats don't recognize it, we truly ARE lost.

Jedi Guy

(3,477 posts)
11. I agree.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

When we finally find some common ground with someone on the other side, especially on such a contentious issue, that should result in positive responses. Whether they come to the table from a moral imperative or a financial one isn't really relevant, as long as they're at the table.

femmedem

(8,561 posts)
14. Well said.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:06 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Not only do we need to welcome new people to the table, but a Republican donor, presumably well-liked and respected by the very people we most need to persuade, is very valuable--and his statement is one of the first signs that things may be about to change in a big way, as they finally did with same-sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana.

Welcome to DU! I'm glad you're here.

Jedi Guy

(3,477 posts)
15. Thanks for the welcome!
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:15 PM
Feb 2018

I'm hopeful that this time [and how sad it is that we have to say "this time"] there might be enough fury in the body politic to actually make some changes.

Unfortunately, there will be that solid core of people that'll resist any and every effort to regulate guns. And the NRA will be right there, hoovering up their dollars to forward them on to politicians who'll happily spend blood money. Why, it spends just like regular money, and the stains almost wash off, if you scrub hard enough...

BadgerMom

(3,417 posts)
24. I agree as well.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:01 PM
Feb 2018

Accept a good thing. A crack in the wal isn’t all that’s needed, but it’s a start.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. Well, it's a dribble. Trump should know him and now we've seen his threat in writing. Remember
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:36 PM
Feb 2018

his name. If he backs down, it won't be a surprise but he will need to be reminded of this pledge.

Turbineguy

(40,073 posts)
10. Eventually the costs
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 06:42 PM
Feb 2018

of these massacres reach outside of the immediate circle of relatives and friends.

When republicans start losing money, they notice.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
20. Good for him, we need everyone to support common sense. Conservative parties in other countries
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:26 PM
Feb 2018

Also realize how stupid the US is when it comes to guns.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
22. the fractures are appearing and I expect to see more of these statements as even republicans are
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:35 PM
Feb 2018

tired of the inaction by congress and the blatant disregard of the NRA and the gun lobby for american lives, especially our kids. Assault weapons have no business in the hands of civilians. Period

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
25. I'd love for the gun control changes to be revolutionary, but that won't happen, so baby steps are
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:04 PM
Feb 2018

good start.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,697 posts)
26. Have to hit 'em in the pocket book
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:10 PM
Feb 2018

It'll take a few more donors standing up to make a difference however.

dflprincess

(29,341 posts)
28. All the demands from constituents for reasonable gun laws have fallen on deaf ears
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:31 PM
Feb 2018

this, however, may work. And, while I'd be happy to see the assault gun ban reinstated, I am disgusted that the threat of losing campaigns funds might be what does it.

It's time to change the national motto to "Money Talks".

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