DU's General Election Season postponed until Monday June 20

[Skinner]

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

Well, this is embarrassing.

As most of you know, last week we began the seven-day transition period from Primary Season to General Election Season and announced that DU's General Election Season would officially begin on Thursday June 16.

From the perspective of the Admins, this transition has been nowhere near as straightfoward as previous ones. For the past six months we have been planning and building out a new system to replace/upgrade/improve the current Jury system. Elad has been working his butt off to get it finished, and over the last seven days we have been testing the new software with the help of MIRT members.

The new software is ready to go, but we have an unexpected problem -- Elad is not going to be fully available this weekend to monitor the site and make sure everything is running smoothly.

Therefore we have been faced with a choice: either go ahead and put up all the changes tomorrow -- but run the risk that something might go awry over the weekend and make DU unusable for hours at a time -- or wait until Monday when we can be sure that any (inevitable) bugs are identified and fixed quickly.

I know some people like to buy into the fantasy that DU is taking million-dollar handouts from the DNC, but the truth is that this site is now and has always made money solely from member donations and advertising. If we could afford a whole team of programmers, that would be great. But as it is the entire burden of maintaining the database, and programming all of the ideas that EarlG and I come up with, falls to one person: Elad. If he's not available, then we don't have any way to bring the site back if something goes wrong.

This was not an easy decision to make, but we have decided that the safest option is to wait until Monday. I know this will probably come as a disappointment to some of you, but we decided that being forced to wait a few more days before officially ending Primary Season was a better outcome than the possibility that a bug in the new software may shut the site down for the entire weekend.

Our apologies, and thank you for continuing to support and enjoy Democratic Underground. We'll post another announcement on Monday.

[ismnotwasm]

1. Hahahaha!

I feel your pain, but my twisted sense of humor finds this pretty funny.

It will be ok. It will work out. We will go on.

[billhicks76]

136. Big Thank You To Everyone Making This Place Work

No matter how opinions differ we are all grateful to have this forum to discuss our ideas and try to come together to help our world and everyone's place in it.

[CincyDem]

2. Well...as I always say..."No Elad, No upgrade". lol n/t

[Else You Are Mad]

26. Let's make that the new meme...

When things don't go according to plan!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

128. Just chill, everybody...

[dixiegrrrrl]

90. good time for Elad to ask for a raise, methinks

[Silver_Witch]

109. So from $0.0 to $0.000 hehehe

You are right Dixiegrrrl. That is what I would do!!

[CincyDem]

135. Time and a half of nuttin' is nuttin'. n/t

[Beartracks]

156. LOL More 0's certainly makes his salary bigger! n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

123. "The Elad Goes In, Before The Upgrade Goes Live."

Okay, that sounds kind of wrong.

[CincyDem]

134. That's just wrong.

lol

[PJMcK]

3. Thanks, Skinner

You and your team have made a wise decision. Don't worry; we'll wait.

[applegrove]

4. It is not embarrassing, it's the creative process.

[Orrex]

5. That tears it. I'm voting Trump.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

21. Hahahaha. NT

[christx30]

37. My grocery store is out of my favorite beer.

I'm going to drink bleach instead.

[LAS14]

143. LOL! ROTFLOL!

[underpants]

6. Tape Elad up and get him back in there!!

Just kidding. BTW Elad autocorrects to Zelda.

[laserhaas]

7. Prudent!

[femmocrat]

8. Thank you all for your hard work.

No need to apologize --- We will still be here on Monday!

[FSogol]

20. Or will we?

[TygrBright]

9. Sounds like the right decision to me.

Much as I was looking forward to the New DU Order, I'm perfectly happy to wait a coupla days for uninterrupted service.

appreciatively,
Bright

[B2G]

10. Is Brian Pagliano available?

I kid, I kid...

[840high]

41. hahaha!!!!!

[Hortensis]

11. Sigh. What must be must be.

Looking forward to Monday.

[lpbk2713]

12. Far out.

[emulatorloo]

13. As a retired software and web person, I understand and appreciate your dilemna

Don't "ship" until it is ready.

Good luck on getting things ironed out!

[csziggy]

45. No, no - I want to use the BETA version of DU!

It would add to the excitement as we make the transition to the General Election! C'mon, Elad - torture us with bad software!

[emulatorloo]

50. Bet the Alpha version would have been more FUN!!!!

[csziggy]

67. Maybe - or it could have given us a chance to sing this song

[Silver_Witch]

111. Oh that was too WoNDERFUL!!!

Thank you I shall steal this and send it to my IT guy!

[LAS14]

144. Where did you get the great what-cha-ma-callit...

... of the guy melting down at the keyboard?

[csziggy]

146. I have no idea - it's been in my files for ages

I've been saving smilies off the internet since they were invented and have a huge stash of them.

[rjsquirrel]

14. It's a conspiracy

Goldman-Sachs paid you off not to make the changes. We demand the transcripts of your development meetings.

/sc jk joke

[hrmjustin]

15. No big deal!

[petronius]

16. Elad escaped?

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Run, Elad, run!






(Thanks for everything, by the way - DU is great in whatever mode!)

[mahatmakanejeeves]

31. Please stay off the tracks.

Taking photos on train tracks: ‘A mistake you can’t undo.’

[petronius]

71. Good advice! I switched the pic - don't want to give Elad any

dangerous ideas while he's on the lam...


(It wasn't my picture by the way, just a Google-steal.)

[mahatmakanejeeves]

84. Understood. It looked stock.

In advertising during Tom Hartmann's show, someone uses footage of himself standing on railroad tracks. He uses another shot of a container train going past. I think the footage was taken at Point of Rocks, Maryland. Every time I see it, I shout at the TV, "get off the tracks, you idiot!"

[FSogol]

17. LOL, the phone rings and the Governor delays the execution for 96 hours.

Will everyone get another last meal?



Kidding aside, keep up the good work and looking forward to the new version.

[Yonnie3]

18. Admins and programmers get to have a life too. Thanks for DU. (n/t)

[cwydro]

19. This makes sense.

I'm looking forward to a more civil DU, whenever it happens.

[LenaBaby61]

58. This ^^^^^

[Nye Bevan]

22. Elad doesn't want to devote a sunny weekend in June to fixing the inevitable bugs in the new system?

What is the world coming to?

[auntpurl]

23. Seems like a sensible decision.

Although I do have to admit I said to myself, "What fresh hell is this?" when the announcement came up at the top of my screen.

[Maeve]

24. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the murky water....

Have a good weekend NOT monitoring the site, Elad!

[workinclasszero]

25. I should have known it was too good to be true

4 more days of republican conspiracy theories and Hillary hate, oh joy.

[ThinkCritically]

39. Don't forget the millennial bashing.

[All in it together]

89. Yes and everything will be just perfect no doubt.

[awoke_in_2003]

125. The real story?

Elad is hiding emails

[Herman4747]

151. Hillary Hate??? Who's hating Hillary?

Not anyone we can see:



?quality=90&strip=all&w=1200

[disillusioned73]

27. Ahh man..

now everyone has to adjust their condescending countdown posts..

[McCamy Taylor]

28. You can't have an internet without IT.

[etherealtruth]

29. I am just looking forward to a more civil DU ....

In truth, since your last announcement, I think civility has increased tremendously.

I appreciate DU immensely.

Happy father's day, hoping you (and other DU dads/ admin and regular DUers) can take a break from the madness and enjoy it!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. So much for the purge of the many by the few.

[Purveyor]

33. Hearts and minds are broken, I'm sure... eom

[senz]

47. Thank you.

[MyNameGoesHere]

82. I've only seen volunteers for self purging.

If people play nice they can stay, if they can't they self purge.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. Kinda like self-deportation. Right?

[MyNameGoesHere]

118. No in one scenario they are undocumented immigrants and choose

to leave. They never signed an agreement or terms of service. In the other scenario they are absolute haters of a Web site they voluntarily joined And agreed to some terms of which they now don't like. It's pretty close but not at all close to the same thing. It's the same thing like white and black are the same color, so I guess it's really close but it's not.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

133. In both they are treated as if they don't belong.

[MADem]

154. If you don't want to play by the rules to which you, yourself, agreed, then

that would be accurate. You AGREED to follow the TOS--it didn't sneak up on you and bite you in the behind. So either gird your loins and deal with that, or push off smartly to places on the world wide web that you feel better reflect your POV. This isn't the only game in town, but for those of us who LIKE the TOS (and the new "rules&quot it's a "safe space," if you will.

You don't get to change those rules to suit yourself just because "your guy" didn't win; that's not how it works--go fire up a website that meets your needs, if you want to expend the effort to make that happen. I'm sure there are places where you can bash/trash Dems running for public office to your heart's content...but this place ain't one of 'em.

Sometimes, it is better to just be an adult and move along if something doesn't suit you any longer, rather than try (and frankly, fail) to make everyone else feel badly because they are still enjoying the experience that is causing you heartburn.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

159. I'm not talking about the TOS. I'm talking about the glee of some to purge.

[MADem]

164. "The glee of some to purge?" Really?

I don't think anyone wants to lose any actual members of this community--but if some DUers are going to be miserable here, they can either be miserable by and to themselves--and not inflict their crabby sorrow on the rest of us-- or they can part ways with us and go where they'll be celebrated. We didn't tolerate that PUMA shit eight years ago, and we're not putting up with it this time, either. This election is too damned important.

It's not like there aren't other websites that will welcome mean-spiritedness and hatred--there are plenty of places where the members get a charge out of shitting on Hillary Clinton during this election campaign--the problem is, the people who frequent those places are often intolerant, racist, sexist, obtuse and ignorant morons. You just can't get intelligent discussion at those places. So, people who just NEED to fling invective at Hillary will have to suffer the opinions of nitwits and, frankly, debase themselves, if they want to crap on Clinton on the internet--because we're just not going to tolerate it here.

And good thing.

But more to the point, I, for one, am a bit piqued at attempts to tamp down any MENTION that the nomination of Hillary Clinton is a BIG F-CKING DEAL, to quote Joe Biden. This is a massive event in American electoral politics. It is an event worthy of CELEBRATION. HRC did it twice as good, "backwards and in high heels" to get half the credit--and the surliness and churlishness of a small number here who refuse to acknowledge that yes, this IS a big deal, and YES, this IS a massive game-changing moment in American politics--just as the nomination of Barack Obama was--is troubling to me. It makes me wonder how "liberal" some of our membership actually is (though more often than not, this kind of denigration comes from low post count members who often do not last long here--another "good thing&quot .

There's much about the Presidency that is both aspirational and symbolic--and the enthusiasm of some to crush and negate that aspect of Clinton's candidacy makes me go "Hmmmmm."

[Spitfire of ATJ]

165. "I don't think anyone wants to lose any actual members of this community"

Did you miss all of the fly swatter grave dancing?

[MADem]

166. If you'll observe, I eschewed the irritating crawling insect which was replied to with a swatter.

I'm not sure why you're lecturing me on that sort of behavior when I didn't participate in it. There was plenty of horseshit to go around on that score--hence the flies, and the swatting.

I think everyone who has gotten tombstoned to this point has done something that contradicts the values of the site and the party. And some of 'em got away with murder before the admins finally lost patience.

Look, you want to be annoyed and feel put-upon--that is your choice. It won't change a damn thing, though.

I figure we have a choice when we put our feet on the floor each morning. We can choose to see the glass as half empty, or half full. I'll take full.

I like DU. I like it even better when people just have conversations about issues, and can manage to disagree without having to characterize individual members here.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

167. There are quite a few who had swatters....

They all had one thing in common too.

[MADem]

168. And quite a few who still have insects and other "sig line" addendums to express disapprobation.

It's not like they aren't observable. We see them. I can't be bothered with that.

I'm on the "Democratic Party" team and I'm backing the presumptive nominee. That's why I am a member here at DEMOCRATIC Underground--because I want to see more DEMOCRATS and fewer Republicans in Congress and other public offices.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

169. I'm a Blue Collar Democrat.

[CBHagman]

171. If only I could put your last two paragraphs in my sig line!

But more to the point, I, for one, am a bit piqued at attempts to tamp down any MENTION that the nomination of Hillary Clinton is a BIG F-CKING DEAL, to quote Joe Biden. This is a massive event in American electoral politics. It is an event worthy of CELEBRATION. HRC did it twice as good, "backwards and in high heels" to get half the credit--and the surliness and churlishness of a small number here who refuse to acknowledge that yes, this IS a big deal, and YES, this IS a massive game-changing moment in American politics--just as the nomination of Barack Obama was--is troubling to me. It makes me wonder how "liberal" some of our membership actually is (though more often than not, this kind of denigration comes from low post count members who often do not last long here--another "good thing&quot .

There's much about the Presidency that is both aspirational and symbolic--and the enthusiasm of some to crush and negate that aspect of Clinton's candidacy makes me go "Hmmmmm."

[stevenleser]

172. +10^10^100 nt

[LostOne4Ever]

32. Thank you 4 the update all the 3 of you do. Nt

[oasis]

34. Do your thing. No sweat.

[zappaman]

35. I'm alerting the FBI!!!111

Expect a visit.

[KingFlorez]

36. There is no primary left

The season officially ended last night with the final primary.

[FSogol]

38. Uh oh. Putin must have hacked DU too.

[Arkansas Granny]

40. The best laid schemes of mice and men . . .and all that stuff.

We've waited this long, a few more days won't hurt.

[Aristus]

42. No strain, Skinner. We'll roll with it.

You and the boys rock...

[progressoid]

43. I don't believe it.

I bet you got hacked by the Trump people didn't you!

It's a coverup!

[LiberalFighter]

44. Disappointed but understand it.

[Capt. Obvious]

46. Four extra days for people to not be civil!

You should go ahead and take the remainders off of FFR and see if they can stay off of FFR until Monday.

[Autumn]

162. ,

[Scuba]

48. Target dates are a useful tool, but one should avoid carving them in stone. You were wise.

[Surya Gayatri]

49. Four days more--no problem. The jury system and GD-P have been

FUBAR since at least the beginning of 2016. A few more days are neither here nor there.

Thanks so much to all three of you--Skinner, EarlG and Elad. You guys have a brilliant site here.

[Loki]

51. Been here since 2001

I can wait a few days, no prob.

[suffragette]

52. Elad is a hero in my book.

He's the engine behind the clean, elegant and functional design of this cyberspace so many of us have called home for so long.

He is worth the wait.

[Walk away]

53. ...

[longship]

54. As a long time and former software developer, it is no surprise to me.

And no cause for any malignment.

DU admins are really great. This site is one of the best political sites on the INet. Yes, too many of its contributors act like infants. But at least many adults find this a place to conduct reasonable discussion.

That is worth celebrating.

[1StrongBlackMan]

55. No worries ...

[Gomez163]

56. 5 days

[FailureToCommunicate]

57. Thanks for all you do, Skinner, EarlG and Elad (but mostly Elad). "I only ride them...I don't

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know what makes 'em work."

[Boomer]

59. I wish my clients were this sane!

Far better to wait.

[herding cats]

60. Stuff happens, it's not a big deal.

Elad already works his butt off making this site such an awesome place.

While I admit to being excited to seeing the new system rolled out, even if I'm slightly bummed about not getting so see jury results pop up in my email anymore. A few more days is not going to be the death of anyone here, and I'm sure everyone would be more upset if it was rolled out and the site broke.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

61. Something to add to the 'lessons learned' wiki:

Always plan all upgrades, changes and transfers for Tuesday morning.
Weekends could possibly become problematic even if well planned within your organization should help be required from outside your organization.

thanks for the info

[klook]

99. After many years working in IT,

I learned the best time to plan vacation is the week of a deployment! They always get pushed out!!

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

108. ~~~

I often get asked for schedule dates. I'm careful to never include a year with the date.



".....Oh, you thought I meant this year???"

"Is it done?" ~~~ "Sure but it's not yet finished. That'll be another week or two."

"Is it finished? ~~~ "Yes, but it won't be complete for about 4-7 business days."

"Is it complete? ~~~ "Yes, but the implementation of certain features have been delayed til phase 2."

[klook]

114. Haha, excellent

Also ~~~ "Oh, you wanted it to work?!?!"

And of course the old favorite:

[liberal N proud]

62. As someone who does database upgrades regularly, this is fully understandable

I have had upgrades delayed for months because one little thing was not in place.

No apologies needed.

Good luck with the upgrade!

[elleng]

63. Thanks, Skinner.

Good decision, imo.

[Waiting For Everyman]

64. Why does ending the Primary depend on the new jury system?

Not that I care, I don't see why it matters.

[onehandle]

65. THE 20TH IS NIGH!

The worst is over and many disrupters have given up, so fine by me.

[NCTraveler]

66. Kick ass Skinner.

Sounds great and no apology necessary.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

68. Better safe than sorry! We can wait. n/t

[BlueMTexpat]

69. Thanks for the update, Skinner!

We. Will. Survive.

Hope that you all - and especially Elad - enjoy the weekend!

[Hekate]

70. Hang in there, Skinner, and the usual suspects will hang in there with you

[truebrit71]

72. I love you Skinner! You're the best!

Always doing what's best for us!!

[mainstreetonce]

73. Thanks

We can wait. There are bigger problems right now.

[PeaceNikki]

74. cool.

[redstateblues]

75. All good.Things have already gotten better since

the primaries are finally over.

[coco77]

76. Yay!

Bernie!Bernie!Bernie!

[tandot]

77. Thanks for the update

I guess we can handle a few more days. It doesn't seem as toxic anymore anyways

[hibbing]

78. Thanks for the update

Stuff happens


Peace

[DonCoquixote]

79. it's better to wait until the cake is baked

then to eat a lot of hot gooey dough. These fixes have been a long time in coming, but at least you kept people in the loop rather than pretend "everything is just fine."

[Lisa D]

86. I love hot, gooey dough!

But I agree with your post.

[rug]

80. Where the hell is Elad going?

Slacker.

[left-of-center2012]

81. Maybe you should train a backup to Elad

God help us (and DU) should something happen to Elad.

[Agnosticsherbet]

83. Monday, then. It's all good.

[GoneOffShore]

85. It's all good. Better a slight delay than DUmageddon.

[nolabear]

87. What?? Opting to do it right instead of quick?

I knew I was with the right crowd.

[wildeyed]

88. Hey, I own a business too.

I know how these things go. Good luck with the transition!

[sheshe2]

91. It's okay, we'll deal with it~

Thanks to you all!

[Autumn]

92. Disappointing but understandable. I look forward to Monday. nt

[McKim]

129. As a Sanders Supporter, I am Leaving as of Monday

Just saying goodbye. I will miss commenting on this site. I cannot get behind Hillary, too much war blood is already spilled for my taste. Also I like honest, straightforward and transparent elections. I'm taking my ideals elsewhere. It will feel so good to not be insulted anymore.

[Autumn]

130. Believe me, I understand that. nt

[NastyRiffraff]

93. Good decision

I wish it could have been today, but I do understand. Thanks for letting us know.

[leftofcool]

94. I'll do the weekend monitor but I want that million from the DNC!

Monday is good for me.

[Geronimoe]

96. Incrementalism

Sound like DU opted for incrementalism over revolution.

I think I recall seeing quite a number of Hillary ads and no Bernie ones.

[Bucky]

97. Tell the truth... Did the Russians hack into your oppo research files?

Damn them, they're even peskier than when they were Commies.

[Silver_Witch]

98. Monday will be fine

Thank you for all your hard work Elad! You are a wizard!!!

[Lochloosa]

100. Elad going on a bender for the weekend? Ok by me.

[LiberalLovinLug]

101. Thank you for all your work but shouldn't the free speech period extend to the convention?

I am still unclear on just what is and what is not allowed after Monday.

Will we be able to mention He-Who-Cannot-Be-Named? Because HWCBN will still need a lot of support on political forums in his bid to push for positive progressive changes in Hillary's platform right up to the convention. This is very important to many Democrats. Will simply writing posts in support of positions of HWCBN that Hillary is not on board with be verboten? Or criticizing the nominee for not considering HWCBN's proposals? I fear many of the more, shall we say, "ardent" supporters of Hillary will be trigger happy after Monday to alert any post not whitewashed clean of any spec of continued support of the other Democratic candidate, HWCBN, and that he, although he has no shot at winning, will still be a big part of the process until the convention.

Isn't some free debate around these issues a productive thing? That is the whole point of HWCBN's reason for continuing on.

[Karma13612]

161. I am going to bookmark this diary in hopes that maybe someone will

answer you.

Otherwise, I will probably go back to just lurking again while here.

There are a couple other sites I like so I will spend time there, where I can post without fear of being banned for being critical of HRC.

[redwitch]

102. Is Elad an actual person? Are you sure?

I have seen photos of you and met EarlG at the Hawk and Dove but Elad? I am skeptical. I picture him as a supercomputer. I need proof that Elad is real. Thanks in advance.

[klook]

103. Need a couple of more days to perfect your evil plan!

Thanks to our skipper, first mate, and engine room chieftain for the continued hard work.

[redstatebluegirl]

104. Sounds like a good plan, stuff happens you know...

[Odin2005]

105. ELAD'S GONE ROGUE!!! Somebody get the US Marshals!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

121. Found one

[diane in sf]

106. The primaries aren't over until after the votes in Ca are counted and we go thru the convention.

[appalachiablue]

107. No problemo at all. Thanks for the update and all your team's great work!

[RKP5637]

110. We're with you, we're all in this together. Whatever you do, we're with you!

[bullwinkle428]

112. I have a sneaking suspicion Guccifer can be tied into this...

[Scurrilous]

113. IOW...Party On!

No party like a divisive Presidential primary party.

[Lord Magus]

115. Can we bring the new rules into play tomorrow anyway?

I don't see why the rollout the of new and hopefully improved jury system and the transition to general election season need to be simultaneous. Sure, it would've been more convenient that way, but putting the new rules in place ought to happen tomorrow regardless.

[rurallib]

116. The important thing is - we will not miss LOL Cats on Sunday

not sure I could survive without them


/revision/latest?cb=20130527140922

[Starry Messenger]

117. Soros!!11

He's behind everything.

But seriously, it will be fine.

[SandersDem]

119. I find

Things to be unstable already, or were you talking about a software issue?

[Warren DeMontague]

120. SURE, BLAME ELAD.

Man.

[Geronimoe]

122. Has the FBI or DOJ endored our

presumptive nominee yet?

[Bill USA]

124. sounds like the right way to go, to me.

[In_The_Wind]

126. I love you guys. Enjoy your weekend.

[ailsagirl]

127. Ditto here, Skinner

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. No apologies necessary... you all do a great job!

[VOX]

132. You guys are the best!

For all you do, thank you.

[Cryptoad]

137. Just the Threat of DU3.8 coming has much improved the site.

sure we can wait with baited breathed, thx

[Takket]

138. nothing to be embarassed about

Better to take 4 days and do it right than have a bunch of bugs. 4 days changes nothing. i look forward to the new jury system

[Duval]

139. Thank you, Skinner.

I agree you made the safest choice for DU. Edited to mention that the 20th is our 24th Anniversary.

[Monk06]

140. A rest is overdue It will give people a chance to refocus on what is really important the

end of T- Rumphalism in US politics once and for all

[AwakeAtLast]

141. Does this mean we get a new "Hate Mailbag" as consolation?

Just kidding, my husband now works in IT, so I totally get it! You deserve a weekend!!!

Also, rolling out changes on a Monday makes a lot more sense.

Keep doing the awesome jobs you do!

[LAS14]

142. No problem! I really, really appreciate your transparency!!! nt

[JohnnyRingo]

145. Not a big deal. Great site!

No one should be taken aback by this news.

[Gman]

147. No big deal

A few days makes no difference.

[KentuckyWoman]

148. Stop apologizing.

The service you guys give to the Democratic Party by building and maintaining this website basically free of charge to anyone who wants it is amazing.

You don't owe us anything.... we owe you.

[DemonGoddess]

149. Thanks for letting us know!

Given that you're talking a MAJOR software change, it's always best to have your programmer handy!

[2naSalit]

150. Well

given that most of the rest of my world is either not working or my supervisory staff has been unavailable for nearly my entire season so far, this syncs up with everything else. Why should I expect anything to be working within the previously prescribed time frame?

Maybe I can go find Elad and we can run away in the same direction.

[Jack Bone]

152. and here I already changed my sig line...

[MADem]

153. Shit happens--don't worry about it.

I'm just glad this place is simmering down a bit.

All things in time.

Better to do it right once, when you can manage it, than do it wrong a few times and not be able to fix it in a timely manner.

[Rex]

155. Some of us have heard of the hot tub.

Grovelbot told tales about it, covered in rubies and sapphires.

[captainarizona]

157. where is the underground part after june 16?

What will be the difference between democratic underground and democratic above ground or democratic party.com for that matter.

[marble falls]

158. Don't worry, we can wait a few more days to get it right.

[lupinella]

160. Thank you

for the update, & all your hard work. Most of us realize that these things can't always be expected to run smoothly.

[Night Watchman]

163. I'll still be Supporting Hillary in Four Days

[revmclaren]

170. I have a question about links and sources

for ops posted to DU after Monday. Will there be a list of sites that are off limits to post links to or will the sites be judged by their right-wing history or by their anti- Democrat and anti Clinton content. And as such, will the 'other forum' that many here are going to and telling others to go to after Monday be included in the Anti-Democratic and Anti-Clinton sites that cant be used on DU or linked to, or promoted since most of its content is NOT pro-Sanders, but Anti-Democrats and Anti-Clinton. Very curious.

Thank you.



Clinton - 2016 and beyond!