Alabama
Related: About this forumAlabama will shut down most of its mental health hospitals by early 2013.
ATLANTA Alabama will shut down most of its mental health hospitals by the spring of 2013 in a sweeping plan to cut costs and change how the states psychiatric patients receive treatment, state officials announced on Wednesday.
The decision to close four hospitals and lay off 948 employees is a bleak reminder of Alabamas shrinking budget. But it is also the latest example in a longstanding national effort among states to relocate mentally ill patients from government hospitals to small group homes and private hospitals.
Mental health advocates believe patients often get better care in smaller, less isolating facilities. Since the 1990s, Alabama has closed 10 other mental health treatment centers.
Whats unusual is how many hospitals in Alabama are being closed so fast, said Bob Carolla, a spokesman for the National Alliance on Mental Illness. The trend has been to downsize much more gradually.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/us/alabama-plans-to-shut-most-mental-hospitals.html?_r=1&ref=health
Sadly, the Community Mental Health centers which are expected to to handle the patients, are also facing budget cuts.
Exact scenario happened in the 70's, when many state hospitals were closed, and patients ended up with few resources.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Just send them to the churches so they can be prayed over. That is what "faith based" health care is all about. Maybe we can exorcise them of their demons. Sprinkle a little holy water on them.
FarPoint
(13,629 posts)No, it's not for clinical management but to place the problem at the feet of it's owners.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)They were unable to make good decisions and consequently broke rules and ended up in prison for years and years. Not the way to treat sick people...but they are Rethugs and don't give a damn for the unfortunate or sick...how I hate them!
liberal N proud
(60,950 posts)Begging for every bite the get.
Ratty
(2,100 posts)They'll just bus 'em off to the blue states.
FarPoint
(13,629 posts)Jails are the largest provider of mental health services in American.
elleng
(136,095 posts)stockholmer
(3,751 posts)Yet another example of the grinding, relentless national suicide of America, all done with unflagging resolve and a 'gospel of wealth' chorus.
eppur_se_muova
(37,420 posts)and the pathogens are in charge.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)which state is 50th in all categories? Ron Paul's libertarian utopia is under construction in Alabama & Mississippi.
pinto
(106,886 posts)While larger, in-patient facilities are being phased out, community-based outpatient care centers provide effective treatment in many cases.
Strictly a layman's point of view, yet I've a brother who's accessed care, both in-patient and out-patient. In his situation, consistent out-patient care and his participation in his care has precluded the need for in-patient treatment.
What's really troubling about any decline in community based mental health care is that it leads to the *least effective* alternative - access to care via incarceration in city and county jails.
That sort of short term, crisis oriented approach rarely benefits anyone, the community or the person with a chronic mental health condition. I see the need in "harm to self or others" situations, yet again, many of those instances can be precluded by on-going, effective out-patient care.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)I know how this is going to end.
Badly.
The county/city jail Mental Health program consists of calling out a crisis worker to determine if the jailee is
"really crazy or jus faking it".
In the event the person is "really crazy" there are few options, other than hospitalization.
In the case of danger to self and others, there will be zero options, no more 72 hour holds.
the jails will end up being the "holding/observation" sites.
Hell, back in the 1990's, when we DID have the option of placing a 72 hour hold,
our Mental Health center bosses were strongly encouraging us to not use a hold,
because of the charge back to the center for every patient we sent to the state hospital.
Yep..the local Mental Health center got dinged money for every admission, even for 72 hours.
So people who needed to be confined, for their own safety, were often left to remain in the community,
until they acted out, someone called the cops, and in many instances, the cops opened fire on the poor patient.
I am not exaggerating this.
The local cops were truly terrified of people who were acting out. Saw that, a lot.
pinto
(106,886 posts)And the hold is still used when needed. Yet, as you say, assessment is erratic depending on the situation.
I think the systemic problem is consistency and coordination among the different agencies apt to be involved. And coordination with longer term care and treatment.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)where most repug "leaders" belong.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)some are very good and some are very bad. major factors in this is how much money the state is willing to spend on private for profit faculties. can these private for profit companies pay a decent wage to attract quality employees. is the state willing to monitor and fine these companies for violating the rights of the clients and or covering up such violations.
i have a funny feeling that alabama will fail those in need and the families who love them.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)and one of my jobs was Quality Control manager in 2 agencies. Site visits by the state were pretty thorough, actually.
But, they only inspect the programs being offered, and the programs that are needed are being defunded.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)she`s the unions quality/safety chairman. the agency she works for is one of the best in the state but there`s always need for improvement. right now in illinois we are facing the same problem as alabama..our democratic governor wants to close several mental/psychically disabled facilities and several prisons. needless to say the unions are fighting this action.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)Down here, not so much.
Yep, they are balancing the budget on the backs of the poor and defenseless, a trite but true pattern.
meanit
(455 posts)some for profit hospitals and programs will provide excellent care. But privatizing care for those who have limited or no ability to pay often means substandard care in poorly run facilities. And don't look for "state oversight" of these places to amount to anything. The politicians who make this outsourcing possible will surely appoint likeminded cronies to issue glowing reports on "how well things are now working with the privatized system."
This nonsense of saying that private, for profit companies can do it better and cheaper is an absolute crock of shit.