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Does this year's WH Christmas card look weird to you? (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 OP
Considering who signed it, yes, it does hatrack Nov 2017 #1
LOL! Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #5
Looks like Melanoma's and Barron's signatures are forged. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #64
Maybe Donald taught Melania how to write? NT enough Nov 2017 #2
The first maggot's signature looks just like the maggot's? Control-Z Nov 2017 #3
I taught first grade and 6th grade and am a handwriting expert BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #9
Barron is incredibly tall, and he is only 10? 11? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #24
He is 11 and by that age he should have mastered cursive. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #34
The districts around me DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2017 #35
Actually, NYS has made cursive teaching optional for well over a decade now... Princess Turandot Nov 2017 #41
Cursive is a thing of the past. kcr Nov 2017 #52
I've lost the ability to write in cursive. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #63
I use a hybrid combination of both. Most people do this now. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #65
By age 10 I had developed a cursive signature. forgotmylogin Nov 2017 #30
Some schools are trying to get rid of cursive. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #36
I am having a hard time writing legibly now dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #48
Checks? What are those? eShirl Nov 2017 #45
Those pieces of paper I have to sign forgotmylogin Nov 2017 #67
My daugter does (age 27) Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #51
I've wondered about that. kcr Nov 2017 #53
Checks? lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #66
Maggots all around! MFM008 Nov 2017 #11
Well, I don't think Barron is. Control-Z Nov 2017 #14
You're probably right. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #39
It's not "gold glitter" jmowreader Nov 2017 #44
I think Barron's signature may be typical for these days. Ilsa Nov 2017 #15
Picking in kids is out of bounds.... 4139 Nov 2017 #4
Agreed. The joke could be made with just Ivanka's signature matching Trump's LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2017 #20
I think you mean Melania, as his wife? n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #31
Oops! Melania is right. I guess I got Trump's legal wife confused with his fantasy one. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2017 #50
Yes. Eric and Donald Jr. are missing. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #6
Not to mention Ivanka LeftishBrit Nov 2017 #13
Lol... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #7
Yes. I see it now. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2017 #27
If this is the real card. It does. The Wielding Truth Nov 2017 #55
I finally have it figured out mercuryblues Nov 2017 #8
gold plated. no surprise riversedge Nov 2017 #10
Rather than 24carat gold ink... magicarpet Nov 2017 #43
Donald's and Melania's signatures look identical... LeftishBrit Nov 2017 #12
I thought it was their EKGs TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #16
Not nearly flat enough . . . hatrack Nov 2017 #17
I think you mean customerserviceguy Nov 2017 #25
I wish Diaper Don's EKG looked like that. Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #60
The two adults' sigs look like they failed a polygraph. lpbk2713 Nov 2017 #18
Huh? Are these the real cards? Thomas Hurt Nov 2017 #19
The front is just the Presidential seal jmowreader Nov 2017 #46
Is this the WH 2017 Xmas card? eom Raine1967 Nov 2017 #21
Yes, supposed to be. n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #32
what an UGLY ugly christmas card. Hideous trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #22
Consider the source. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #40
OMG, I think this is the real card!!! LisaM Nov 2017 #23
the signatures of Donald and Melania look like KKK rallies Skittles Nov 2017 #26
That's funny underpants Nov 2017 #59
Are there separate greetings for those among us who celebrate other holidays like Sophia4 Nov 2017 #28
No clue. bet prolly not. n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #33
Yep. They say "Accept Christ or die" nt COLGATE4 Nov 2017 #61
Good thing the kid signed it or you would not know who it was from. Shrike47 Nov 2017 #29
Donald signed for Barron. TeamPooka Nov 2017 #37
Both top signatures look like they are by the same person... Puzzler Nov 2017 #38
At the rate education/ literacy/ penmanship... 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #42
I think it's rather common radical noodle Nov 2017 #47
My 5 year old grandaughter's signature looks like that SoCalDem Nov 2017 #49
I am being absolutely sincere when I say that I think it's sweet that they included Barron renate Nov 2017 #54
This card doesn't look as if it was even done by a professional company. LisaM Nov 2017 #56
It hurts the eyes... syringis Nov 2017 #57
I suspect the gold filagree was obtained by extracting the teeth of Muslim child refugees. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #58
Who are Dinah Dummph and Indian Jenny? Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #62

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
3. The first maggot's signature looks just like the maggot's?
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:56 PM
Nov 2017

Or Barron's looks like a kindergartner wrote it?

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
9. I taught first grade and 6th grade and am a handwriting expert
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:02 PM
Nov 2017

Last edited Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:12 PM - Edit history (1)

in both cursive and print. I had to be able to decipher their letters and numbers on tests and homework for over 15 years. NOT EASY! Something is wrong here..no comment beyond that or DU will bust me.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
34. He is 11 and by that age he should have mastered cursive.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:17 PM
Nov 2017

It is taught in 4th in CA. My 6th graders had to write their Spelling Tests in cursive and in print in case there was difficulty figuring out what they spelled correctly as opposed to whether or not their handwriting was legible. Barron's writing looks like my first graders more than my 6th graders.(age 11). This is odd to say the least.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
35. The districts around me
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:22 PM
Nov 2017

quit teaching cursive a few years ago at least. My cousin's kids are 9 and 13. My cousin has taught her 9yo how to sign his name in cursive. The 13yo was taught how to her name, but not much beyond that apparently. They both go to public schools in a fairly well rated district.

Princess Turandot

(4,917 posts)
41. Actually, NYS has made cursive teaching optional for well over a decade now...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:58 PM
Nov 2017

leaving the decision in the hands of local school boards. NYC public schools just recommenced teaching it in 2017; I'm not sure if it's a requirement or just strongly encouraged.

There are private schools that stopped teaching it as well. I don't know if the private school that Barron Trump attended taught it or not, but they were under no obligation to do so AFAIK.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
52. Cursive is a thing of the past.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:37 AM
Nov 2017

If they still include it where you teach, your school is not the norm.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
63. I've lost the ability to write in cursive.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:40 AM
Nov 2017

I always found cursive to be slow and ugly, and in my profession, block printing is the norm.

forgotmylogin

(7,952 posts)
30. By age 10 I had developed a cursive signature.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:02 PM
Nov 2017

We learned cursive by third grade. I know they don't teach it anymore, so does that mean every Millenial going forward is going to print their name on their checks?

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
36. Some schools are trying to get rid of cursive.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:22 PM
Nov 2017

This has been going on for years. Today's teenagers have some strange writing that is similar to print but it has strange slant, curves and angles. We do not teach it that way but by middle school they are all writing in the same style. They used to help me in my classroom and my first graders could print better than the high school kids. In fact, they would come up to me and ask me to figure out the written comments on their homework since they weren't familiar with this hybrid form and we would try to de-code it together.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,160 posts)
48. I am having a hard time writing legibly now
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:52 AM
Nov 2017

because have used computer for the last 20 years, out of practice with using a pen, except for checks.

got a note from my middle aged kid, he printed, rather than cursive.

kinda sad all that beautiful copperplate writing has died out.

forgotmylogin

(7,952 posts)
67. Those pieces of paper I have to sign
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:29 PM
Nov 2017

To pay my rent.

I guess signatures are worthless going forward.

Yes millennials. I acknowledge your sarcasm.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
53. I've wondered about that.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:44 AM
Nov 2017

I think signatures will just become print. When mine have to sign a form now, they just print their name.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
66. Checks?
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:44 AM
Nov 2017

Going forward, those aren't a thing.

Signatures will be biometric or digital.

My signature has never been the same twice. Nobody has ever questioned it. That tells you the value of a signature for identification.

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
14. Well, I don't think Barron is.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:18 PM
Nov 2017

And I doubt that is even his signature. Looks like whoever put that mess of a card together just faked a kid's writing in glue before sprinkling the gold glitter over it.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
39. You're probably right.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:31 PM
Nov 2017

I hold my dog's paw to make her sign cards as a joke(to other dogs...we have a lot of dog lovers around here). Barron's signature looks like Spike wrote it...or one of my former first graders who went wild with her sparkly glue pen. Definitely not an 11 year old.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
44. It's not "gold glitter"
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:30 PM
Nov 2017

This is an example of (very, very bad - I can't imagine sending work out that looks this bad, and I've printed pawn tickets) thermography. It's a fun process. You print a job on an offset press, then before the ink dries you sprinkle it with a special powdered plastic before sending it through a heat tunnel. The plastic reacts with the wet ink and swells up. It's also the cheapest form of raised printing...every used car dealer in the world has his business cards printed this way. It looks cheap and tawdry because it is. So...it's perfect for Asshole's Christmas card. What the hell ever happened to just printing in black ink on 18-point Strathmore Bristol Vellum with a reproduction of a Currier and Ives watercolor or something on the cover? It looks classy and it doesn't cost that much. (Which may be the reason he didn't do it that way.)

Ilsa

(64,370 posts)
15. I think Barron's signature may be typical for these days.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:29 PM
Nov 2017

Kids don't do much cursive writing; they type and print.

Barron may not have great fine motor skills yet.

20. Agreed. The joke could be made with just Ivanka's signature matching Trump's
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:55 PM
Nov 2017

That would refer to all the times Donnie Two Scoops has seemed to have written self-aggrandizing letters of support saying how he is he smartest, best and overall smartest person in the world, but put someone else's name on them. Or his letter from the crazy-looking doctor that says he'll be the healthiest person to ever be President. He also used to make phone calls while pretending to be his own publicist. http://1clickurls.com/L164CmK

It also references the idea that Ivanka is nothing but an eye-candy trophy wife who isn't smart enough to even sign her name.

The only thing missing is a photo of him holding the Christmas card up for everyone to see, like he does with Executive Orders. "Look what I did, Mommy!"



Baron should be totally off limits.

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
8. I finally have it figured out
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:59 PM
Nov 2017

Malaria's signature makes it obviously clear, She loves him, deeply. All those sour faces she makes is because the only way to get him to notice her is by acting and doing things like him, so he can see his reflection when he looks at her.

magicarpet

(18,511 posts)
43. Rather than 24carat gold ink...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:30 PM
Nov 2017

They should have loaded watered down diarrhea in an ink cartridge and then signed it with that.

(Barron excluded).

LeftishBrit

(41,453 posts)
12. Donald's and Melania's signatures look identical...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:17 PM
Nov 2017

as though one signed for the other, or a staff member signed for both.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
60. I wish Diaper Don's EKG looked like that.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:26 AM
Nov 2017

I hold out hope that Colonel Sanders will finish the job.

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
19. Huh? Are these the real cards?
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:51 PM
Nov 2017

What happened to having Christ in Christmas. Don't we need a crucifix or a manger and baby Jesus. If I were a fundie winger I would feel cheated after all the complaints about the shortcomings of O's Christmas cards.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
23. OMG, I think this is the real card!!!
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 09:12 PM
Nov 2017

I thought maybe someone had taken an old card of theirs and Photoshopped the 2017 in, but it appears that this is the actual card.

I have no words.


 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
28. Are there separate greetings for those among us who celebrate other holidays like
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 09:40 PM
Nov 2017

Hanukkah and others?

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
29. Good thing the kid signed it or you would not know who it was from.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:00 PM
Nov 2017

Vulgar, pretentious and totally ignoring millions of Americans of diverse faiths. Yep, that’s DJT.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
38. Both top signatures look like they are by the same person...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:30 PM
Nov 2017

... at least to my very untrained eye.

What do the real experts think?

(Not that this is a exactly of earth-shattering importance)


-Puzzler

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
42. At the rate education/ literacy/ penmanship...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:06 PM
Nov 2017

...are declining, we will be back to making our marks with an "X" before too long.

I feel like I am living in Haiti.

radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
47. I think it's rather common
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:55 PM
Nov 2017

for people who think they're important, to have a signature that is distinctive and cannot be easily copied. The trump part of his and Melanie's signatures are not the same but they seem to have a similar structure. I bet she copied her style from him. Just a guess.

I've had employers with equally weird signatures.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
49. My 5 year old grandaughter's signature looks like that
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:50 AM
Nov 2017

My heart breaks for poor Barron.. I know his Mom loves him, but he always seems, to me at least, to be an accessory.

renate

(13,776 posts)
54. I am being absolutely sincere when I say that I think it's sweet that they included Barron
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:45 AM
Nov 2017

I really truly do.

I've been inclined to like Barron ever since the inauguration when he was sweet and playing with one of his little nieces or nephews. I still like him.

There's no use pretending that his signature isn't more like that of a child a few years younger. But that's none of our business. (And I helped the teacher grade my son's classmates' homework when he was that age, and it's not dramatically different from what's typical, really.) I think it's really nice that it was included on the card anyway, since it's not representative of the image his father would probably like to present.

Thus endeth what is probably the last nice thing I will ever say about his dad.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
56. This card doesn't look as if it was even done by a professional company.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 04:54 AM
Nov 2017

It looks like a title card from al TV show in the 1950s....very "I Love Lucy".

syringis

(5,101 posts)
57. It hurts the eyes...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:19 AM
Nov 2017

Not pleasant at all to watch, not enough contrast, not a very nice font, a bit pompous.

Melania and Donald's signature looks like they had their fingers in an electric socket...

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
58. I suspect the gold filagree was obtained by extracting the teeth of Muslim child refugees.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 05:35 AM
Nov 2017


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