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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:02 AM Apr 2017

Democratic lawmaker nails why we shouldn't believe Trump's claims about why he's bombing Syria

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/6/1650980/-Democratic-lawmaker-nails-why-we-shouldn-t-believe-Trump-s-claims-about-why-he-s-bombing-Syria?detail=facebook


Democratic lawmaker nails why we shouldn't believe Trump's claims about why he's bombing Syria
By Laura Clawson
Thursday Apr 06, 2017 · 11:48 PM EST


There are so many problems with Donald Trump’s sudden decision to launch airstrikes on Syria. But Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton gets right to the heart of how dishonest Trump’s claimed outrage over the gassing of Syrians is:

If you don’t care enough about people to welcome them in peace, no one should believe your claim to care enough about them to drop bombs.


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Democratic lawmaker nails why we shouldn't believe Trump's claims about why he's bombing Syria (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
he just found out that syrians have babies. spanone Apr 2017 #1
Babies lives matter only if they stay in Syria LeftInTX Apr 2017 #27
Maybe restrict Planned Parenthood to Muslims? erronis Apr 2017 #35
Keep driving that point Rep Moulton.. it's excellent. Cha Apr 2017 #2
Spot on, Cha. nt brer cat Apr 2017 #11
+++ agree iluvtennis Apr 2017 #12
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #36
Hope someone frames that statement into a question for Spicey... NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #3
Won't matter. hamsterjill Apr 2017 #10
It's believable from these frauds. eom sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #33
For tRump & deplorable Republicons, killing brown people easier than housing & feeding them. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #4
I'd be willing to be he enjoyed it. lark Apr 2017 #18
No see it's this way FakeNoose Apr 2017 #28
I see no way to end this insanity and the wait till the 2018 election is not enough BSdetect Apr 2017 #5
k&r bigtree Apr 2017 #6
K&R sheshe2 Apr 2017 #7
I will never trust a word that clod utters ailsagirl Apr 2017 #8
PLUS #TrumpRussia is heating up to a boil and Trump & Pals are getting scalded. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #9
And what about the 200 civilians that USA They_Live Apr 2017 #13
Not to mention the $41,600,000 cost .. DemoTex Apr 2017 #14
those missiles cost $832,000 each!? Sunlei Apr 2017 #17
Yes they do. I read that they are over a million each actually. anneboleyn Apr 2017 #22
I went with the most conservative estimate. DemoTex Apr 2017 #34
This site claims they are $1.6 million each IronLionZion Apr 2017 #29
I'd like to know where all 59 of missles struck, reports said only about 20 hit tiny airport Sunlei Apr 2017 #15
We need to keep repeating this Idoru Apr 2017 #16
Yep, we allk need to keep repeating this loud and repeatedly! lark Apr 2017 #19
trump bombs Syria to show russia doesn't own him Marthe48 Apr 2017 #20
And Tillerson reports to Putin next week. Literally he visits Russia next week. anneboleyn Apr 2017 #23
yep... I can only imagine the boner this gave him and how much he wants to do it again Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #25
OMG-I thought the same thing Marthe48 Apr 2017 #26
Trump wags the dog to distract from his selling America to Russia keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #21
NAILED IT... many others have amde similar remarks but this really put it just right Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #24
Exactly Solly Mack Apr 2017 #30
Dump is a liar and a hypocrite NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #31
Bigly! RainCaster Apr 2017 #40
K & R rogue emissary Apr 2017 #32
To me simple logic is enough of a case. Amimnoch Apr 2017 #37
Doesn't smell right, Trump supporters too dumb to notice. harun Apr 2017 #41
agree. tomp Apr 2017 #43
The other reason is that he is incapable of telling the truth. Kablooie Apr 2017 #38
to say nothing of the EOs KT2000 Apr 2017 #39
Right on. Kath2 Apr 2017 #42

Cha

(319,070 posts)
2. Keep driving that point Rep Moulton.. it's excellent.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:07 AM
Apr 2017

trump will tell Russia and Syria and not the US that he's going to bomb but he won't let Syrian Children find Refuge.

And, he's blaming President Obama.

He has no credibility whatsoever.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
10. Won't matter.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:01 AM
Apr 2017

It will be the usual absurdity for an answer (i.e., "I'll look in to it&quot . Then three days later it will be "I didn't promise you an answer; I just said I'd look into it".

Can anyone believe this shit from a press secretary???!!!

lark

(26,081 posts)
18. I'd be willing to be he enjoyed it.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:59 AM
Apr 2017

He likes hurting brown people. Although, since Syria strongly appears to have been forewarned by Russia, there probably weren't many deaths and no loss of planes. This is a military strike that wasn't, just more fakery. Since when does anyone announce to the enemys' BFF that we are initiating military action? Never is the answer, as it's just not done. The stupidity and sneaky treachery of this administration is just astounding. He wasted millions of dollars worth of missiles just to try to appear as if he's not taking orders from Russia. So Russia and Syria duly makes outraged noises, even though no real damage is done, just for pretense sake.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
28. No see it's this way
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:11 PM
Apr 2017

Housing and feeding the Syrian refugees is no problem.

The problem comes in where they become citizens and vote the wrong way.
Can't let that happen.




They_Live

(3,373 posts)
13. And what about the 200 civilians that USA
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:43 AM
Apr 2017

killed just the other week? 45 doesn't mention at all.

DemoTex

(26,361 posts)
14. Not to mention the $41,600,000 cost ..
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:43 AM
Apr 2017

50 Tomahawk missiles @ $832,000/each = $41,600,000

And that is the cost of the missile alone. Lots of overhead involved. Lots.

DemoTex

(26,361 posts)
34. I went with the most conservative estimate.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:36 PM
Apr 2017

But with all the support required (overhead), a Tomahawk's off-the-shelf price probably doubles by the time it is launched.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
29. This site claims they are $1.6 million each
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:16 PM
Apr 2017
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/04/06/

Just think, we almost elected socialism to waste our tax dollars on health care, education, and infrastructure. Whew. Dodged a bullet there.

Defense Comptroller Report:
http://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/defbudget/fy2015/fy2015_Weapons.pdf#page=65

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. I'd like to know where all 59 of missles struck, reports said only about 20 hit tiny airport
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:45 AM
Apr 2017

where did about 35 go?

Idoru

(167 posts)
16. We need to keep repeating this
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:47 AM
Apr 2017

This fact, combined with the fact that the Syrians and Russians were informed of the attack before Congress was, can't be stated enough. It's all smoke and mirrors.

lark

(26,081 posts)
19. Yep, we allk need to keep repeating this loud and repeatedly!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:04 PM
Apr 2017

War as fakery was practiced on Thurs. It's just a show to try to throw off and stall further the Russia investigation. He must be terrified of that, that he would go to these lengths. If he thinks he'll get a war president bump, well, he shouldn't have told Russia and so Syria in advance. He really thinks Americans are stupid and that the information won't get out or they won't believe it. That's why he constantly dogs the media, so people don't believe them when they tell them all his lies and distortions. Only thing, people believe the media way more than him, but I bet he doesn't believe that either since he thinks he's so smart (Not).

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
20. trump bombs Syria to show russia doesn't own him
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:27 PM
Apr 2017

putin told him to bomb syria so trump can "prove" he's his own man. Ha.

Headlines shouting that trump warned russia when they were bombing. More likely, putin gave trump a time and date. And Syria is a fallen pawn to putin and trump's relentless quest for all power all the time.

Already horrible, it will get worse. trump just discovered how f'n easy it is to order bombs. In less than a week, he's moved from honking a truck horn to launching Tomahawks.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
26. OMG-I thought the same thing
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 01:08 PM
Apr 2017

N.Koreans better prepare for the next hit. If putin wants it. We all better.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
21. Trump wags the dog to distract from his selling America to Russia
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:33 PM
Apr 2017

Trump only pretends to care about civilian casualties.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
31. Dump is a liar and a hypocrite
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:31 PM
Apr 2017

And he's putting the entire world in danger with his recklessness. No wonder Putin wanted Dump in the WH. He and Assad would never have dared this shit if Hillary had been president.

RainCaster

(13,711 posts)
40. Bigly!
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:55 AM
Apr 2017

We must never forget how the GOP had stolen our rights.
They colluded with Russia to steal our vote.
They played games with Obama and his choice for SCOTUS.
We must all work to eliminate the GOP as a sad point in our countries history.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
37. To me simple logic is enough of a case.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:02 PM
Apr 2017

Putin has been President of Russia since 1999.

Can anyone name a single time where Putin was threatened with ANY kind of military action against him, and didn't go all out in resisting it?

We're to believe that #45 tells Putin that he's going to bomb an air base with Russian equipment, and Russian troops installed, and the famously magnanimous Putin just tells the troops to move the Russian equipment and themselves off of the base????

Then add to that, the peaceful Putin decides not to deploy.. at all.. the Russian countermeasures they have in place.. You know.. the S-400 countermeasures that are specifically made to target and down Tomahawk missiles.. When he knew a full day ahead of time those missiles were incoming?? What? We're supposed to believe the Russians were just being generous??

Add to THAT, the extremely precise targeting capability of the Tomahawks we fired, and the numbers we fired, yet the air strip is still fully operational??? What? The CIC's made a miscalculations.. more than 50 times???

REALLY??? This is the narrative we're supposed to just swallow?

There needs to be a fucking investigation NOW to find out exactly what the orders given were? I'll eat my socks if they were ordered to destroy the air field and just missed. I'm betting our military was ordered to inflict minimum damage and leave that airfield intact.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
43. agree.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 08:41 AM
Apr 2017

the gullible american people are trained to see any american military action as righteous, and to "get behind the president."

the number of "coincidences" surrounding this "show of force" are incredible, literally.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
38. The other reason is that he is incapable of telling the truth.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:51 PM
Apr 2017

If he says it's so, it's not.

KT2000

(22,150 posts)
39. to say nothing of the EOs
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:39 AM
Apr 2017

that will not ban a pesticide known to cause brain damage in children and the gutting of the EPA - gutting of public health.

Kath2

(3,192 posts)
42. Right on.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 08:40 AM
Apr 2017

"If you don’t care enough about people to welcome them in peace, no one should believe your claim to care enough about them to drop bombs."

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