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Oregonians are fed up with the rising home prices in Portland and seem to think Californians are to blame.
"No Californians" stickers are mysteriously popping up on for sale signs in front homes that are on the market.
The stickers resemble a no smoking sign with a silhouette of the Golden State slashed out in red.
Realtor Lori Fenwick told The Oregonian that she learned about the trend when one of her buyers sent her a photo of a sign with one of the stickers. When Fenwick posted image on Facebook. she immediately heard from colleagues who had spotted the same sticker on signs.
LuvNewcastle
(17,821 posts)Washington call Californians "Californicators." There's even a bit of friction between southern and northern Californians. I guess I can understand how Oregonians and others feel about the rise in prices. People who live in coastal CA will have to look for other places to live. It's too expensive and there's the water shortage. People in OR don't want California's problems. I hope the signs are meant in jest, however. The signs are probably illegal and definitely in bad taste.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I think Arizona and Colorado both claim authorship.
icymist
(15,888 posts)back in 1990's Seattle.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,159 posts)there were several waves, I remember late 70's/early 80's.
yuiyoshida
(45,409 posts)Don't Californicate Utah. Some people found it funny, but I didn't much care for it. Haters gotta hate...
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)They blame Californians for many of their problems - including crime.
With my California plates at the time, I had my car vandalized while hiking a trail in north-central Washington in the mid 1990's. I heard gun shots by my car and I came back to find it keyed and smeared with mud, the only crime I've ever experienced in all my many travels around the US.
CountAllVotes
(22,215 posts)With its quarter mile limit on cutting ...
As for the rest of it, yep, driven off the road in Oregon in the 1990s by some farmer. Guess he didn't like my CA plates.
dsc
(53,396 posts)Wouldn't sellers want prices driven up?
1939
(1,683 posts)Folks that eventually want to be at lower prices are doing it.
dsc
(53,396 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)They are going to be buying somewhere else in the state. I am not saying the signs make any financial sense in the big picture but its mainly a FU type of thing.
kiva
(4,373 posts)this was exactly the sentiment. Americans have every right to move to another state and pay however much they choose for a house, but the influx did lead to rising housing costs but without a corresponding raise in wages...Californians were not popular in Grand Junction.
when the San Andreas fault cracks and California slides into the Pacific, too many of her population will get off in time.
BTW, I understand that New Hampshire residents call the invaders from the south "Massholes".
moonscape
(5,722 posts)to when the Cascadia ruptures. Then, Oregonians will be flocking to CA, welcoming the San Andreas with open arms.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)In Oregon now, and while I don't miss the frequent quakes here (I was in the '89 Loma Prieta/World Series quake), I am getting to be a bit of a canned food hoarder thinking about the Cascadia subduction zone disaster that might await us.
moonscape
(5,722 posts)close to the fault and had a lot of damage - and trauma! As my place shook and things were crashing around me, me braced in the doorway, I was quite sure it was The Big One and my home was going to crumble into the river below. The aftershocks as you know were big and unnerving.
I was okay with earth tremors up until then ... and ironically, am now looking at moving to Oregon, but not thinking along the coastal area. I asked the realtor if Oregon would accept yet another Californian, and how could I get license plates before moving!
JHB
(38,211 posts)...part of it will just slide closer to Oregon.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)(n.b. above is an example of a map illustrating the long held, mistaken notion that baja California was an island)
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)But that term started because of their notoriously bad driving habits. Statistically, they were ranked as the U.S.'s worst drivers for years although I don't think they still hold that title. But the name stuck.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)i've lived here my whole life and have been hearing about it for as long as i can remember.
petronius
(26,696 posts)live in our backyard - they have only themselves to blame...
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)msongs
(73,752 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)I remember back in the late 70s the hilarious one-two bumper sticker punch: "WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA. NOW GO HOME" and "WHEN YOU LEAVE CALIFORNIA, TAKE SOMEONE WITH YOU."
Yeah, good times.
Elad
(11,411 posts)When I moved here 10 years ago I got a 600 sq ft apartment in the heart of what is now a heavily gentrified popular part of town for $530. Similar aparments in this area are now about $1,200. My old ones were converted to condos.
Real estate prices have skyrocketed in all the desirable parts of town, pricing out the former apartment dwellers that can't afford their aparments anymore.
Like it or not tons of people are moving here and they're not all from California. Like me, a lot of them are from the Midwest. But the perception, fair or not, is that the culture the Californians bring with them is having a negative effect on neighborhoods.
Favorite dive bars are being replaced with fancy wine bars, cheap cafes with $15/plate restaurants, and old houses are being torn down to build more condos/giant luxury homes that don't fit into the neighborhood.
All that is happening, but personally I don't think the growth is a bad thing. I might be biased because I do own a home in one of those desirable neighborhoods that I managed to get in on right before the market got really insane, but who knows. I do, however, think there is a difference between young migrants coming to a place they were looking to find other out-of-the-box thinkers (much like me ten years ago) vs. wealthy migrants coming in and trying to turn neighborhoods into cheaper versions of wherever they came from because the money they made selling their houses in more expensive areas allows them to live like kings here. No matter where those people are coming from.
But bottom line is it is happening so, well, get used to it or find somewhere else to live.
This cartoon was going around Facebook recently and sums it up nicely.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...and the destruction of beautiful established neighborhoods is strongly resented. All for the buck in the developer's pocket (and maybe one in the pocket of the city council, too).
Look to the example of Petaluma California as a model for restricting growth. In the 1970s, Petaluma took steps to limit permits for new housing drastically. The city's right to do this was upheld in court all the way to the Supreme Court, which refused to hear the action against Petaluma.
Growth is not inevitable. Not everyone who wants to move to a particular city has any right to do so if there is no room for growth or desire of the populace for it (as expressed through elected city council members).
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)It's really a pathetic "I got mine fuck you all" mentality.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)It's the unregulated influx of people and the willingness to destroy neighborhoods AND affordable housing in order to accommodate people who have sold their homes for profit elsewhere. Where do you think the 400,000 people expected to migrate here in the near future are going to live???
We need to STOP thinking we must assimiilate all those people. It just can't be done without destroying the city as far as liveability is concerned.
Elad
(11,411 posts)I don't see that happening in Portland, but it is interesting. We do have an urban growth boundary which limits sprawl, but the metro governing body gets to review it every 5 years and has the right to expand it.
teach me everything
(91 posts)we are already house hunting, and many of them are priced out of our range. I'm hoping we'll get some help - we have spotted a nice little house not too far from where we live (about a half a mile away) that is 3br 3ba, beautiful kitchen, for about $369k. Most houses nearby are already at high 600k to 2 million for houses in a nicer neighborhood.
People are moving in because we have one of the top 10 best cities to live and work for. Condos, apartments and houses are being built EVERYWHERE. You can't even step outside of anywhere without seeing something being built - that's the truth. And because of that, the costs of house/condo ownership or apartment rentals has gone up. It's surreal.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Guys (mostly wannabe hipster toolbags) who cannot hack it in Los Angeles move there. Portland, as a city, is inferior to Los Angeles in every way. No wonder they don't want our rejects moving in.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I think of roaming meth addicts that look like Nick Nolte's famous mugshot and towing scams. How many blocks is "Portlandia" anyways?
LoveIsNow
(356 posts)Wow, Portland must be a REAL shithole!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)like free public transportation. LA is run by rich people for rich people. I was quite happy to leave after living there for forty years. I've never been back and I left in 1992.
trueblue2007
(19,251 posts)we have NO free public transportation and never have had FREE transportation. have lived here 50+ years.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It's the end of an era. As of September 1, MAX Light Rail and Portland Streetcar service in Downtown Portland and the Lloyd District (the Free Rail Zone) is no longer free.
Ending the Free Rail Zone is another cost-saving measure we identified in an effort to close our budget gap without cutting essential service. We're sad to see it go, but we estimate this change will generate nearly $3 million annuallymoney that will help us preserve existing bus and rail service.
There are other good reasons, too. While free transit has become a hallmark of Portland's tourist-friendly city center, our region has changed dramatically since "Fareless Square" was first introduced back in 1975. We no longer have the air quality issues that prompted the creation of the free zone, and the transit system has expanded significantly since then. Plus, we want to provide equitable service throughout the region, and the Free Rail Zone was a benefit exclusive to Downtown Portland and the Lloyd District.
Too bad. It made your city better.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Too bad that is no longer the case.
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Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)(before you go and hit the alert button, realize the irony that I myself was born in California)
Iggo
(49,927 posts)Repeatedly, and with gusto.
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yuiyoshida
(45,409 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)lunasun
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CanonRay
(16,171 posts)California is a overwhelmingly Dem state, and I'll take all the extra Dem votes I can get up here. I've met some real nice newcomers from California. We're especially having an influx from around Sacramento currently,
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)shanti
(21,799 posts)yup, that will be me in a few
don't want to live in portland though. i prefer the countryside, around salem/eugene, but must be near a salmon river or tributary.
CanonRay
(16,171 posts)only an hour from Eugene....
Cleita
(75,480 posts)sticker du jour was "DON'T CALIFORNICATE OREGON!" This Californian still loves Oregon and Oregonians anyway. However, we can't change what happens in Oregon. It's still up to Oregonians to put the elected officials in place who will make policy that will stop any trends they don't like including in their real estate market.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Poryland is called New Brooklyn ,Brooklyn is called New Whatever .Lofts were once factories .
The natives everywhere are restless = 7 billion plus gentrifiers and destroyers .
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Somewhere in between Texass and Floridah. Let's see if those states would support tourism for Oregon. Without Ca gold rush who knows if Oregon would even be a state. Ca is 9 years older than Oregon.
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Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)have spent part of their life in California at some point.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Guys. It's a sticker.
Most of us like you and want to be your friend.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)as California.
Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, Washington and even Utah have harped on Californian immigrants to their states since I can remember.
Housing is getting ridiculous in Portland, I don't think Californians are to blame though.
Everyone wants to live near the best basketball team in the country!
Oh and we have legal weed now, so suck it CA. I am only kidding!
oregonjen
(3,643 posts)Referring to Oregons tourist industry in a 1971 speech, McCall may have first publicly voiced his famous Come visit, dont stay slogan: I urge them to come and come many, many times to enjoy the beauty of Oregon. But I also ask them, for heavens sake, dont move here to live.
My grandpas father moved the family to Oregon from a hard scrabble part of Long Beach, California to look for construction work when my grandpa was about 5 years old, continues Mike. When I was young, my grandpa told me stories about his fathers car (while parked at job sites) repeatedly having its windows smashed and tires slashed by other workers who were infuriated that a Californian would be picked for a job over an Oregon native. He eventually began hiding his vehicle several miles from job sites until he was able to get Oregon plates. So our family certainly knows about the anti-outsider sentiment that fueled McCalls policies!
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ellisonz
(27,776 posts)Portland can keep its lack of sun, sea and Mexican food. I haven't looked back after graduation.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)HOT. And DRY.
I kept thinking: "Wow, I remember one reason I wanted to get out of Cali." Everything was parched, brown, dusty, and dying, just like I remember California summers. The rain came back though -- hooray!
But, ya know, different strokes ...
ellisonz
(27,776 posts)THE HUMIDITY WAS HORRIBLE
How do you do without air conditioning?
We will steal your water eventually!
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I think it's usually a dry heat. But, then, I've also lived in the Midwest and East Coast too, and that is some major humidity right there.
We don't have AC, but we do have a grove of giant trees shading us and also fans and also a cool downstairs. There are a few days, though, when I reeeeeeally want AC.
You are probably right about the water!
I loooooove our tap water -- straight from Mt. Hood. So delish!
Marr
(20,317 posts)...they're probably seeing mostly northern Californians.
Yeah, those guys are all dicks.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Since the homeowners looking to sell also agree that high prices are a bad thing, why don't they just drop their prices arbitrarily and see how that works out?
Something about this doesn't make sense.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)It's people coming by later and doing it.
Portlander here...and I've seen a couple of these stickers.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Scapegoating.
People do like to focus their anger on easily identifiable groups - even if the focus is misplaced.
DiverDave
(5,245 posts)'70's a lot of folks cashed in.
some weren't as laid back as their neighbors.
The Ungreeting card I liked the best was "last year 546 people fell off their bikes in Oregon, then the inside said "and drowned"
The resentment of folks that just didn't get they weren't in the city anymore was thick.
One guy shot and killed a fisherman on a boat in a fishing hole in front of his house, claiming it was "his".
This was the Rogue river. Which is legal to fish from a boat....
So, yeah, people didn't like Californian's.
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Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)isn't it the seller who determines the price? How is that Californians' fault?
Too bad. I was planning on going to Oregon on vacation next year. Staying in one of the parks with the Yurts. Oh well, lots of other places to spend my tourist dollars.