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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:14 PM Jan 2015

CNN: Can Hillary Clinton step out of Bill's NAFTA shadow?

Can Hillary Clinton step out of Bill's NAFTA shadow?
1/14/15

Washington (CNN)Two decades later, Hillary Clinton is still haunted by the ghosts of NAFTA.

Labor unions and liberal activists are preparing to highlight free trade — an issue central to Bill and Hillary Clinton's political brand in the early 1990s — if she opts to run for president in 2016.

Driving their anger: The Trans-Pacific Partnership, a massive new pact that that would usurp the Clinton-era North American Free Trade Agreement's place as the biggest-ever free trade agreement. President Barack Obama's administration has been negotiating the Chile-to-Japan deal for years, and it's increasingly drawing scrutiny from the Democratic base as the talks near completion.

The new deal has reminded labor halls across the country of the old one — and that it was their biggest problem with the Clintons. Compounding the problem is that free trade, particularly NAFTA, is an issue that Clinton has vacillated on since her husband's administration.

As first lady, Clinton backed NAFTA and spoke highly of it at stops for the administration. But once she was elected to the Senate and later ran for president, her support of free trade -- and her husband's landmark agreement -- began to wane. On the campaign trail, Clinton acknowledged that NAFTA has "hurt a lot of American workers" and advocated for broad reform of trade policy. President Barack Obama's campaign even used the flip-flop against Clinton during the 2008 primary.

But after Clinton lost the nomination and agreed to serve as the President's Secretary of State, she began to warm up to free trade, and particularly the TPP.

...As first lady, Clinton backed NAFTA.

"I think that everybody is in favor of free and fair trade," she said during a meeting with union workers in 1996, "and I think that NAFTA is proving its worth." In her 2003 memoir, "Living History," Clinton also writes glowingly about NAFTA, including it among her husband's "legislative victories" and noting it would "expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens, of globalization."

But when she entered the Senate in 2000 and ran for president in 2008, Clinton's tune on free trade began to change. She conducted a study as senator that found the agreement hurt New York workers' ability to sell goods in Canada and spoke out against NAFTA during her 2008 campaign.

"NAFTA and the way it's been implemented has hurt a lot of American workers," Clinton said at a 2007 forum with the AFL-CIO. "Clearly we have to have a broad reform in how we approach trade. NAFTA's a piece of it, but it's not the only piece of it."

Clinton lost her race for president, though, and went on to serve as Barack Obama's secretary of state. In the role, she oversaw the President's much noted pivot to Asia. At the center of that move was the TPP. "One of our most important tools for engaging with Vietnam was a proposed new trade agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which would link markets throughout Asia and the Americas, lowering trade barriers while raising standards on labor, the environment, and intellectual property," Clinton wrote in her 2014 memoir "Hard Choices."

As secretary of state, Clinton also talked up the benefits of the TPP and during a trip to Korea in 2011, she advocated for "as few barriers to trade and investment as possible."

When asked for Clinton's current position on free trade and the TPP, a spokesman pointed CNN to what the former secretary of state wrote in her book.


...Before Clinton went to Michigan last year to endorse candidates, America Rising PAC, an anti-Clinton communication and research group, questioned Clinton's "phony populism on free trade."

"A peculiar thing happens every time Hillary Clinton decides to run for President," the group said in a blog post. "Her views on free trade start sliding left and she calls for a 'time out' on free trade agreements."

These Republican attacks - and more likely to come - show the political problem Clinton faces. If she runs for President, she will either have to woo labor and liberal leaders by blasting agreements like TPP and NAFTA and risk looking like she is backtracking on her State Department years. Or she can embrace deals that she made at State and risk what has become eager liberal anger....
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antigop

(12,778 posts)
2. Hillary: "Outsourcing will continue..."
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780.html

When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. . . . We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."

Two years later, as a Democratic presidential hopeful, Clinton struck a different tone when she told students in New Hampshire that she hated "seeing U.S. telemarketing jobs done in remote locations far, far from our shores."

The two speeches delivered continents apart highlight the delicate balance the senator from New York, a dedicated free-trader, is seeking to maintain as she courts two competing constituencies: wealthy Indian immigrants who have pledged to donate and raise as much as $5 million for her 2008 campaign and powerful American labor unions that are crucial to any Democratic primary victory.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. No, she is quite happy to be in that shadow, and has helped make that shadow bigger with the
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jan 2015

TPP.

If she runs for President, she will either have to woo labor and liberal leaders by blasting agreements like TPP and NAFTA


Oh, been there, done that with presidential candidates, have we not? I cannot imagine she would think so little of our intelligence as to try and sell that with a straight face. And this time around, the candidate would be blasting something they helped to write, and shilled for.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
12. Trying to get the word out here, and I would assume that anyone in the primaries
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jan 2015

would make a point of it. And whoever the GOP runs may make a point of it.
TPP is Hillary's and Obama's pet project, looks like to me, and I want them to get full credit for it.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
14. I try to get the word out as well, djean111. We have to drown out the Third Way sycophants.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jan 2015

Unfortunately, the media has not covered the TPP, unless you look outside the mainstream.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
6. Hillary's problem will be balancing on the thin wire she has put herself on
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jan 2015

she won't be able to maintain her balance.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. The 1% would be ecstatic if the election is Jeb vs Hillary
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jan 2015

They'd both favor Wall Street over the little guy.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. The same might be said of rMoney v. Hillary.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jan 2015

The only barrier to big money backing him again might be perceived electability.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Jeb vs Warren means both nominees were Reagan/Bush voters. 'We both voted for Poppy!'
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jan 2015

But I'm sure that is indicative of nothing, years of supply side Republicanism, that's meaningless of course.

underpants

(196,506 posts)
8. Oh so NOW CNN is all about the problems with NAFTA
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jan 2015

they barely mentioned it before it got passed, other than to have "experts" on to praise it.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
11. ^
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jan 2015






It's all good because they're all united. Just like Joe Biden said "It's time to actually create a New World Order"



Once, people that mentioned the phrase were called "Conspiracy Theorists". Now that Joey the Drug Czar talks about it, does that make HIM a "Conspiracy Theorist"?

What kind of person plays upon the gullible?
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