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Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:15 PM Jan 2015

Anti-Islamic protests spread across Europe

Germany has become the latest European country to witness mass anti-Islamic protests that have grown increasingly common across the continent.

"In Europe in general, there is an anxiety, an anti-Islamic phobia, developing," said left-wing activist and Green euro MP Daniel Cohn-Bendit.

He was referring to the latest protests by the Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West (Pegida) group that gathered an unprecedented 18 000 supporters to their rally in Dresden on Monday.

Pegida, which was launched only in October, rails against a range of enemies - not just Islam, but also the media ("all those liars&quot and the political elite - that they accuse of diluting Germany's Christian culture.

They have won support from admirers abroad, such as Tommy Robinson, former head of the far-right anti-Islamic English Defence League.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Anti-Islamic-protests-spread-across-Europe-20150107


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Anti-Islamic protests spread across Europe (Original Post) Rhinodawg Jan 2015 OP
I understand their anxiety. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #1
Dude... Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #2
Yes. cwydro Jan 2015 #6
Do these lovely people ever take responsibility EVER? tenderfoot Jan 2015 #7
Criminals are responsible for their actions but financiers are also culpable CJCRANE Jan 2015 #8
Not to mention the millons of refugees CJCRANE Jan 2015 #9
"BLAME THE WEST" is about as trite as "THE WEST CAN DO NO WRONG" nt Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #10
not everything is about the west, things do happen outside of the west JI7 Jan 2015 #13
Nice to see you spreading the "wisdom" of Daniel Cohn-Bendit whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #3
jihadists want war... they just may get it ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2015 #4
So you signing up to take them on in combat? tenderfoot Jan 2015 #5
Personal is a self describing term seveneyes Jan 2015 #11
Counter-protests dwarf German anti-Islam rallies pampango Jan 2015 #12

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. I understand their anxiety.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jan 2015

Western policies have done nothing but increase Islamic fundamentalism.

It's just becoming more and more absurd.

First it was the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and the Taliban in Pakistan. But at least a decade passed before we went to war with them.

Then we invaded Iraq where Saddam kept a lid on the fundies. We removed him and unleashed Al Qaeda.

Then came Libya, where the same thing happened.

Then we supported the Syrian rebels and were told we had to bomb Assad's infrastructure on their behalf but we balked because of their reputation of being a) Al Qaeda and b) cannibals.

A year later the Syrian rebels morphed into ISIS and suddenly we had to attack them.

In the mean time ISIS and other extremist groups have proliferated exponentially on social media and seemingly in European society.

All the while there is a surveillance infrastructure that monitors all of us but seemingly doesn't spot major events happening or thousands of Europeans running away to join the extremists.

Now those same rebels are coming back to attack us.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
2. Dude...
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jan 2015

you cant blame the west foever.

Do these lovely people ever take responsibility EVER?

IS IT EVER THEM AND NOT US ?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. Criminals are responsible for their actions but financiers are also culpable
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jan 2015

in the same way that a financier is culpable for hiring a hitman.

If you arrest the hitman but not the financier then the financier will just hire more hitmen.

If someone unlocks a gated community then gives weapons to the local gang then who is responsible?

If we keep financing and giving weapons to extremists we are going to keep getting the same results.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
9. Not to mention the millons of refugees
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jan 2015

caused by the chaos in Libya and Syria who will make their way to Europe.

We create our own problems. Those protesters know it, they don't know the details and they're misguided in some ways, but they know something's wrong, that our leaders are not working in our best interests and that we're not being told the truth.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
3. Nice to see you spreading the "wisdom" of Daniel Cohn-Bendit
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jan 2015

I'd tell you to research those you quote, but I know that's immaterial to your mission.

Enjoy
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Bendit

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
4. jihadists want war... they just may get it
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jan 2015

in ways that they are not thinking will come to them.

sP

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
11. Personal is a self describing term
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jan 2015

In most cases of threat or harm to oneself or loved ones, solutions are but a moment of decision. When observed from a far enough distance, individual acts appear as one.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. Counter-protests dwarf German anti-Islam rallies
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jan 2015

A record 18,000 people marched on the streets of Dresden on Monday (5 January) against what they call the Islamisation of Europe, but counter-protests outnumbered them all over Germany.

Launched in October, the so-called Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West (Pegida) movement has been growing steadily in support over the past few weeks. It organises "evening strolls" every Monday in the former east German town, where the far-right is more present than in other parts of Germany. Neo-nazi marches are held every year in Dresden, accompanied by counter-marches, on the day commemorating the Allied bombing of the town.

On Monday, counter-demonstrations in support of refugees and a "colourful" Germany were held in Dresden and attracted 3,000 people, but in other major German cities, they outnumbered Pegida supporters.

In Berlin, police estimates that some 5,000 counter-demonstrators blocked hundreds of Pegida supporters from marching along their planned route. DPS news agency estimates that a total of 22,000 anti-Pegida demonstrators gathered in Stuttgart, Muenster and Hamburg.

http://euobserver.com/social/127095

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