France should withdraw its apology to Bolivia (DU'er confirms France did not block airspace)

[Hooray for Pepe]

We now learn that France is apologizing to Bolivia for the whole plane story.

"PARIS--French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius Wednesday evening apologized to Bolivia for closing its airspace to Bolivian President Evo Morales Tuesday evening when many suspected the Bolivian presidential jet might have been carrying National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden." Link

But what the French foreign ministry should have in mind is that DU'er Cali Democrat reported a while ago that the story was "total bullshit;' therefore the apology should be reversed, as France did not block anything.

Kudos to Cali Democrat, and someone please Fax/call/email France about the true facts.

[quinnox]

1. lol

good one!

[dkf]

2. Hee hee hee. I lol too.

[Catherina]

3. Well let's alert the President of France! And quickly too!

I'm sure they'll be swayed by that bit of *brilliance*

[PoliticAverse]

4. The "didn't happen" talking point appears to be 'inoperative'...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,907098,00.html

[deurbano]

23. Thank you for that link!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

5. No time for that. Cali Democrat is busy looking for the real killer who framed OJ.

[byeya]

53. LOL!!

[Warren Stupidity]

6. We are at Orange on the color coded authoritarian histrionics chart.

[gcomeau]

7. Slight difference between article authors characterization...

...and actual French statement.

France did not apologize for "closing it's airspace" since they didn't do that.

The French president said they granted permission as soon as they knew it was Morales's plane. They apologized that the confirmation of the granting of permission was delayed and caused an inconvenience.

The exact statement:

"The foreign minister called his Bolivian counterpart to tell him about France's regrets after the incident caused by the late confirmation of permission for President Morales' plane to fly over [French] territory."



But keep pretending like what they actually did was apologize for their hostile and nefarious act of closing their airspace to the Bolivian president so that they could herd him into Austria to be held hostage against his will or something if that fits your preferred narrative better.

[sibelian]

13. Hm! Silly old Morales!

Wht a fusspot, eh?

[PoliticAverse]

17. If you are denied permission to use the airspace it is closed to you.

The rest of your post is an example of the 'straw man' fallacy.

[reusrename]

22. Yep, happens all the time, nothing to see here, move along folks.

It must be those silly flight numbers for presidential flights.

[Kelvin Mace]

36. So Spain just coincidentally

had exactly the same "late confirmation of permission" as France.

What are the odds?

[LondonReign2]

37. Well then

clearly a number of countries accidently delayed granting permission to the point that he burned his fuel and had to land to refuel. CLEARLY nothing happened here and we can all move on.

And that whole searching his plane thing? Probably never happened.

I feel better now that we cleared that all up.

[flamingdem]

45. I figured as much, thanks for this extra bit of confirming info

There was a snafu and people got paranoid

[sabrina 1]

50. Lol, yes, they didn't know that the plane held a Latin American leader. Such incompetents we

are supposed to believe they are.

Of COURSE they knew.

[Cha]

8. Yeah, there a lot of confusion going on right now..

but, it seems you're right about there being no need for an apology.

I would think that France should be able to glean what actually happened on their own, though.

[sibelian]

15. Hnk!

There's no confusion. There's the truth, plain as day, and a whole bunch of people claiming there's confusion.

[Cha]

19. Okay, big truther.. what ya got?

[sibelian]

26. Go play in one of the Snowden sandpits, dear.

Waste someone else's attention.

[Cha]

28. So nothing. just as I thought.

[sibelian]

27. PS

PLONK.

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. Is your sarcasm detector broken?

Or are you yourself being sarcastic - which, given your previous posts on this subject, seems unlikely?

The OP is taking the piss out of Cali_Democrat.

[Catherina]

41. It's fucking amazing. The inability to grasp something so painfully obvious explains a lot n/t

[Comrade Grumpy]

54. Oh. My. God.

[vdogg]

9. To be fair

This story has been all over the place today. Several news organizations reported France blocked them, only to retract the stories a few hours later after the French denied they had. Now we have come full circle. One can be forgiven for reporting the wrong details (as I did earlier today) when the media themselves don't know what the hell is going on.

[DirkGently]

10. The desperation to spin every shred of Snowden-adjacent news is so sad, really.

[sibelian]

11. Still at it, is he?

Well, stupid is as stupid does.

[DeSwiss]

12. K&R

- A crack(ed) DU investigator!!!!

[RainDog]

14. LOLOL! n/t

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

16. First they were cheering, then that it never happened, tonight or tomorrow, Racist

BET!

They really have no shame, and sure, politics is a messy arena, but when you can't even keep your argument in the realm of reality, and change your position/story at your convienence, then snark and insult when busted, there is no chance for rational debate.

It is like the MSM, and then there is the false premise of being "fair" and "balanced" to justify their abusive airtime.

It's simply nonsense, though it does provide for repeated, and frequent teachable moments.

[Zorra]

18. Well, in fairness to Cali Democrat, he was duped by deliberate MSM propaganda.

One way MSM propagandists operate is to post/print false articles favorable to MIC interests. A large percentage of the readers who saw the first bullshit propaganda article about how France did not close its airspace will never read the second true article confirming that France did indeed close its airspace.

Therefore, they go away believing what Cali Democrat believed, that the French did not close their airspace to Evo.

Fox News uses this propaganda technique all the time.

[HooptieWagon]

20. Well, when one is repeatedly duped by propaganda,

Thwn that poster is either exceptionally gullible, or guilty of spreading the propaganda. The BOG's credibilty is now lower than Baghdad Bob's.

[Zorra]

32. Well...thanks, yeah, those are good points. I was simply illustrating how the MSM/MIC uses lies as

propaganda in order to dupe naive Americans into acting against their own best interests.

[sibelian]

30. Cali Democrat seeks confirmation of his own biases.

As do the rest of them. They know perfectly well that's what they're doing...

I do understand that you're trying to be equitable over this, but there's more at work here than simply being gullible...

[Purveyor]

21. {{{cackle}}} eom

[Cali_Democrat]

24. Hahahaha

I'm honored. Although if you nitwits actually read the article I posted and the article in this OP, you will see that French air space was never denied.

Once they knew it was his plane, it was allowed into French airspace.

Maroons

[SaveOurDemocracy]

33. Rather than admit you were wrong, you revert to name-calling and silly smilies.

Very impressive.

[LondonReign2]

39. Doubling down on dumb?

Impressive.

Tip o' the hat

[Warren Stupidity]

48. wow, that post there exceeds normal levels here of both dumb-assery and vileness.

I'd alert, but why hide it?

p.s. we as a community have more or less agreed that calling people here "morons" no matter how you spell it, is hate speech. Nitwits is probably ok.

[Cali_Democrat]

49. That post was already alerted and left alone

One very nice DUer emailed me the results. We had a good chuckle.

Cheers!

[Warren Stupidity]

52. Isn't that special.

Like I said, I don't want your vile idiocy hidden, I want it right out in the open.

[East Coast Pirate]

25. Quick!

Wall of blue links needed on isle 5!

[In_The_Wind]

31. Oh my

[whistler162]

34. 24 posts and already on the road to a Tombstone!

[sibelian]

38. Hm hm!

Maybe not.

[Catherina]

42. Why? For telling the truth? n/t

[RandiFan1290]

43. They only need a new email address

Isn't too hard for them to return as quickly as they are dispatched.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Why would that be?

Exactly where did the OP lie there?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

35. you're still here?

[galileoreloaded]

46. there is a simple explanation!

[whatchamacallit]

51. Lol!

Love it!

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

47. bwahahahahaha

welcome to DU

[Scurrilous]

55. K & R