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kentuck

(116,319 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:33 PM 11 hrs ago

Can you imagine the environment in the 1920's...

...when everyone was going to get rich on the stock market. They only had to invest pennies on the dollar to get in on the scheme.

I think today's environment is similar in some ways. They believe the stock market will never go down under Donald Trump. Their 401Ks will always be secure. Their savings will always be there.

But do they know that the billionaires are not using their money to invest in things like AI data centers. They are borrowing the money from retirement accounts and savings accounts. What will happen if the bubble bursts?

In my opinion, we are all at risk.

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Melon

(2,012 posts)
1. Did you say that during the housing run-up
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:37 PM
11 hrs ago

Or telecom or …?
The growth is AI right now and technology stocks. The world is short memory and chips. That is where all the investment is so that where we put our money.

It’s the stock market. We are always at risk if a downturn. The difference now is that all of these auto withdrawals from 401k’s every two week give a constant infusion of new cash.

The ones losing money the last few years are the ones on the sidelines in a market of increasing costs and devaluation of your currency.

kentuck

(116,319 posts)
2. It just seems that the money is in a magnitude much larger than anything in the past.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:40 PM
10 hrs ago

Now we talk about billions and trillions.

Melon

(2,012 posts)
3. It feels like the waves are bigger but I think the
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:45 PM
10 hrs ago

Actual volatility is less. Have all the money flowing in buffered the largest swings?
I lost big percentage of money during the telecom bust.

OC375

(1,251 posts)
4. Cook off (or nationalize) the 401k's and you'll have no stock market infrastructure left. Bet on it.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 07:18 PM
10 hrs ago

A lot of smart, motivated people, with the know how to get us back to the pre-industrial age with some code, may decide a reset is better than the proposed trajectory.

Melon

(2,012 posts)
5. It's important to remember that leafing economists
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 07:35 PM
10 hrs ago

Have predicted 50 of the last 4 major market declines……

chowmama

(1,150 posts)
6. I have to start taking out of my 401K this year.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 07:49 PM
9 hrs ago

I'm a December baby, so I have a short time to take the first amount for 2026 (although the first year does offer an extension). I have to wait till I'm 73 to take any of it without extra penalties.

It's not that much money, not even a year's salary for me, but still...This is going to force a big decision on my part. Assuming the market hasn't crashed before my birthday, do I take it all out and have a bigger hit on my taxes, as it will put me into a higher tax bracket for 2026?

Or do I risk it all by taking smaller amounts each year, knowing the remainder could disappear at any time?

Of course, it could all disappear before I get a chance to take any of it, making a decision moot.

Fun times, courtesy of the idiot in the White, soon to be Gold, House.

orthoclad

(5,377 posts)
7. It's not just the overheated stocks, it's the disparity
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 07:52 PM
9 hrs ago

between rich and poor, the wealth gap, that the 2020's and 1920's share.

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