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Trump will cancel the midterm elections on the imposition of the Insurrection Act declaring martial law. He will send his Brown Shirts into Democratic strongholds for the purpose of a feigned insurrection to justify canceling the midterms as the Republicans are lining up to get their collective asses kicked in November. If the Democrats prevail and take back the Senate and House, the Trump cartel will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their assets will be seized and they will take up residence in the Graybar Hotel and License Plate Factory.
rampartd
(5,867 posts)no one will believe the results.
Cheezoholic
(4,220 posts)what we are seeing. You are correct in congressional prosecutions if we win but they won't be enforced with this DOJ. It will take states to move on them. That's when its going to get real IMO. We gotta win to draw the line and hold it and then win it all in '28 to make them pay. It's the low hanging fruit that's scared the most. The pardon line will be so long he won't be able to sign them all.
Regardless, the cracks in our system have been exposed and when/if we win we must fill those in and prevent this from happening again. It will be a government without trust from the either side, they have broken what trust there was. How long a Republic/Democracy can survive like that I do not know but it certainly will be weakened both internally and externally. And I believe we will/need to give the people via Congress the power the Executive currently has which can be done without tearing up our core principles laid out by the founders. Its the way they designed it IMHO.
doc03
(39,262 posts)I've been to to DC three times going back awhile. The last time was when Biden was in the White House in '24. Every time I've been, the perimeter at the WH was further out than the time before, no matter if it was a Democrat of Republican. I don't trust Trump either, but this isn't new.
Farmer-Rick
(12,893 posts)He is not fair to us.
He doesn't deserve fairness.
But I get your point. With free, unlimited access to guns and stochastic terrorism everywhere, we have become much more violent country. So, yeah the further out you put your perimeter, the safer you are inside that perimeter.....as long as you monitor it regularly.
ITAL
(1,473 posts)Though he may well have. I figured it was a Secret service initiative to keep expanding the perimeter every decade or so. Like I said, ever since 9/11, I think every decade or so they've increased the distance from the White house to the public. I know when we were here last time, my wife was especially disappointed how far away her obligatory White House photo was.
littlemissmartypants
(35,942 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(11,917 posts)It was not the 'cracks' that gave us Cheetolini and his cronies. It was the system itself.
Unless we quit patching the cracks and kicking the can down the road, this is just 'rinse and repeat'.
I wish more of us understood this.
Cheezoholic
(4,220 posts)It doesn't take a lot to take a Democracy down from the inside. Like cracks in your wall that let little ants in, if you dont address them youre going to have more ants. Seal up the cracks the walls still in good shape. Ignore those cracks and your going to get more ants to the point the ants move in. I wouldn't tear down the entire wall of my house because ants were getting in. Properly addressing those cracks, the integrity of the wall still stands.
Basically what I meant. I don't think the system is so far gone we have to tear it down and rebuild it. But we do have to address those things that let this happen much better than we have in the past. We don't have to destroy it to fix it. Democracies are flawed as the people running them. It's the nature of them. Thats what makes them easy targets. I don't want to tear the country down because weve found (or they have found) the flaws in our current system and exploited them. Thats exactly what they want to do. Fill the cracks, the structure is fine
Whip-poor-will
(706 posts)is a cover word for republicans white supremacists baby rapers about to lose the numbers needed to control the country.
ICE is training thugs how to thug better to keep control
Expect the public exterminations, live on the TV, to increase till their message is received and accepted.
mahina
(20,912 posts)Raskin. Ocasio-Cortez. Whitehouse. Warren. Sanders. So many greats, so brilliant and brave. Bless em. May their colleagues, house and senate, get some courage too.
OC375
(1,250 posts)flvegan
(66,757 posts)That is some funny shit right there. No he won't, and no they won't. Nobody is going to do shit. We'll get a whole bunch of "America needs to heal" and "we have too much other important work" or "it's impossible to prove" "but the Supreme Court" and 86 other lines of bullshit. Or they'll just go with the easy "he's too old/sick" and "well, he had immunity" so they can blame someone else.
It'll be Nixon all over again. Remember, big club/we ain't in it.
Consequences have no meaning in the great old USA unless you're unable or unwilling to "contribute" to the ruling class.
Timewas
(2,829 posts)Is replete with examples of this
Farmer-Rick
(12,893 posts)Each time we let the criminals, torturers, illegal searchers and pedos go without punishment, we made them stronger.
Even Obama used the comment to the effect of "we need to look forward not backwards" in order to rationalize not prosecuting the torturers and abusers in the past administration.
The criminals are imbedded in our government everywhere. Many of them were voted into office. How are they going to prosecute so many?
SSJVegeta
(3,545 posts)And I dont think they are even that crazy yet for it to be successful.
ashredux
(3,002 posts)He will not leave quietly . Buckle up, its gonna get messy at the midterms.
Joinfortmill
(22,043 posts)Abstractartist
(458 posts)The spooks?
wnylib
(26,999 posts)Bobstandard
(2,462 posts)The individuals who might have resisted are gone. The coup has been ongoing for years now.
JohnnyRingo
(21,114 posts)But more than half of this country is democratic, and we're not going to roll over and surrender.
Shrek
(4,510 posts)I will bet any amount of money you care to wager that the midterm elections will happen on schedule.
Bobstandard
(2,462 posts)BannonsLiver
(21,206 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(24,725 posts)You have no idea how the government works, not even under this regime.
States run elections, not the feds.
Elections have been held during every war, including the Civil War, and after 9/11.
Control over congress does not give Democrats control over criminal prosecutions. They can investigate, impeach, block funding, but they cant send anyone to prison. Even if they could, Trump still retains pardon power until January 20, 2029.
Fearmongering, especially that based on falsehoods, does nothing to prepare this community for the challenges that lie ahead.
2na fisherman
(410 posts)Yes, the midterm elections will be a great test of partisan political power as Trump Republicans try to rig things in their favor. And if Trump tries to use military means to interfere with the elections, this must be seen as an absolute admission of his illegitimacy and political failure. How could he and his minority continue to govern by force in such a large and divided country? And what would our allies and adversaries do in reaction to this weakened state?
My hope is that many of the millions of people who never bother to vote will do so because they now have a visceral hatred of Trump and all his cronies. The massive corruption, Epstein affair, war and general lunacy may have awakened The Silent Majority to take the time to pay attention to politics and vote. Some may come to realize that not voting is the same as saying yes to those who would destroy the country.
onenote
(46,455 posts)i've lost count of the number of DU posters who have predicted the imminent declaration of martial law.
None of those predictions have come to pass and virtually all of them reflect a misunderstanding of what "martial law" actually is.
The Supreme Court long ago explained what martial law is and the limits of its implementation under the Constitution:
Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866)
"If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the courts are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theatre of active military operations, where war really prevails, there is a necessity to furnish a substitute for the civil authority, thus overthrown, to preserve the safety of the army and society; and as no power is left but the military, it is allowed to govern by martial rule until the laws can have their free course. As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration; for, if this government is continued after the courts are reinstated, it is a gross usurpation of power. Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. It is also confined to the locality of actual war."
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,315 posts)or how many people thinks it's Marshall Law.
Thank you, again, for posting the true facts surrounding Martial Law.