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Platner, Platner Platner, Platner (Original Post) malaise 9 hrs ago OP
The Media people have an... Mike Nelson 9 hrs ago #1
Whelp GusBob 9 hrs ago #2
Same here bif 8 hrs ago #5
Seriously? WinningAgain 8 hrs ago #3
These two Manatee 8 hrs ago #4
The point is the media focus - TBF 8 hrs ago #7
sorry eShirl 8 hrs ago #6
I have no problem with that malaise 7 hrs ago #22
We know who the mainstream media works for - TBF 8 hrs ago #8
And they are determined to take down the democratic candidates who have BComplex 6 hrs ago #34
The Pope better have some good bodyguards. Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #49
Amen to that! BComplex 6 min ago #77
Yeah, we've got to be really careful w/candidates TBF 5 hrs ago #54
I can't with that tabloid crap MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #65
If the Catholic Church does this, it will be very good for this earth and all its people. n/t PatrickforB 1 hr ago #74
Maybe just maybe we should've looked at the SS tattoo and the blog post blaming women who get drunk... nycbos 8 hrs ago #9
I see MakeThemCry 7 hrs ago #21
Exactly which part is good to know? lapucelle 6 hrs ago #29
Yes to the GIF MakeThemCry 6 hrs ago #39
Help me out here. lapucelle 6 hrs ago #42
In context, leftists MakeThemCry 4 min ago #78
All valid points malaise 7 hrs ago #23
And there's not much chatter about her on the M$M today, is there? Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #50
Of course not malaise 2 hrs ago #71
Actually, there was news about her case today. lapucelle 33 min ago #76
True nycbos 4 hrs ago #57
I don't think he is anti Semitic PCB66 6 hrs ago #31
So far there have been no proven "red flags" that have held water. BComplex 6 hrs ago #38
Cenk Uygur and The Young Turks? sheshe2 6 hrs ago #43
I was more focused on the MSNBC reporting on that post. BComplex 5 hrs ago #46
No problem. sheshe2 5 hrs ago #47
You keep posting that like it means something MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #68
LOL, not long ago tattoos like that used to be called "youthful indiscretions" by the GOP. hadEnuf 5 hrs ago #53
"The left has long had a problem with antisemitism." BComplex 6 hrs ago #36
Did you read the part where I've been working on Democratic campaign since I was 13. nycbos 4 hrs ago #62
Explain October 8th sarisataka 3 hrs ago #63
Some folks will gaslight you about the anti-Semitism and others will be taking names, lapucelle 6 hrs ago #45
The gaslighting is why I prefer right wing antisemitism to left-wing antisemitism. nycbos 4 hrs ago #59
He used the drunk card multiple times as an excuse for his crap MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #67
I'm tired of hearing about Platner. I'm over the guy. CaptainTruth 8 hrs ago #10
The Platner revelations are a gift from the gods Pinback 7 hrs ago #11
We're on the same page malaise 7 hrs ago #15
If the Repukes can't find something, they will make it up Gum Logger 7 hrs ago #12
We're all sick of Platner. SamuelAdams 7 hrs ago #13
No. I'm not sick of Platner. I'm sick of lynch mobs. BComplex 6 hrs ago #41
My personal opinion is that AIPAC wants either TBF 4 hrs ago #55
The timing of this is truly suspect - at best. notinkansas 4 hrs ago #61
I've been seriously questioning Platner all along. johnp3907 44 min ago #75
Platner is a problem that needs to be solved. LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #14
You know I agree with you malaise 7 hrs ago #17
People are waiting for Platner to resign. Hopefully he will. LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #19
Cornyn asked Paxton to resign numerous times. It didn't work.. LOL LeftInTX 5 hrs ago #51
People didn't want to hear the truth about Platner. It was all out there. Especially on this site they didn't want to Raftergirl 7 hrs ago #16
Some of us let ourselves get carried away by our excitement at the possibility of unseating Collins. 😕 ShazzieB 7 hrs ago #24
When I heard that he had a Nazi tattoo, I thought LeftInTX 6 hrs ago #40
Some still don't MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #69
I've read multiple articles and saw 3 tv stories in the last 24 hours about the turd refusing to pay E Jean krawhitham 7 hrs ago #18
Links? Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #52
Deflecting well from the EPSTEIN FILES. republianmushroom 7 hrs ago #20
I was offended by the Washington Post putting a headline about Platner's failure to use a condom at the top of the Martin68 7 hrs ago #25
Precisely malaise 7 hrs ago #27
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise 7 hrs ago #28
Platner is in the news WinningAgain 7 hrs ago #26
And his accuser went out with him AFTER the alleged rape, and just like the previous BComplex 6 hrs ago #30
Yes, Al-Sayed is next. It will start with the NYT. And then... AloeVera 5 hrs ago #48
wtf obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #60
Gross and sickening MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #70
The Platner story is hot. It's today's news. maxsolomon 6 hrs ago #32
No Paxton, no Epstein, no Piss..... BlueTsunami2018 6 hrs ago #33
The media has been out of control since at least the OJ trial. OC375 6 hrs ago #35
No shit, right? Joinfortmill 6 hrs ago #37
Why wouldn't it be covered? themaguffin 6 hrs ago #44
We have the best media money can buy Retrograde 4 hrs ago #56
You expect them to call out the PROVEN sexual abuse of the CURRENT president? senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #58
I saw it MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #64
Alleged sexual assault vs. adjudicated rapist AdamGG 3 hrs ago #66
malaise slightlv 1 hr ago #72
Deadline White House Nicole Wallace discussing now MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #73

Mike Nelson

(10,945 posts)
1. The Media people have an...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:05 AM
9 hrs ago

... obvious and important tie-in to the Platner story. The President not accused... not maybe. PROVEN. GUILTY. They should be asking why he hasn't registered as a sex offender.

bif

(27,446 posts)
5. Same here
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:37 AM
8 hrs ago

And when I tag a post as a Dupe, I get scolded that dupes aren't allowed in LBN but okay in GD. Gets rather annoying. Seems like every third post is about Platner.

TBF

(37,786 posts)
7. The point is the media focus -
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:53 AM
8 hrs ago

Specifically, what the media is choosing to focus on. And what the billionaire media always chooses to focus on. Which is whatever will help Trump and his fascist regime the most. Because mainstream media is owned by billionaires and they are 100% good with the fascism.



malaise

(299,997 posts)
22. I have no problem with that
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:53 AM
7 hrs ago

I am sick of all these predators but let’s have some balanced coverage.
:

TBF

(37,786 posts)
8. We know who the mainstream media works for -
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:57 AM
8 hrs ago

I look at the NYTimes to know what their latest talking points are & the Wall Street Journal to know how bad most of us are getting screwed by Capital.

The billionaires are in charge y'all, that's our fight. Trump's just their latest spokesperson.

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
34. And they are determined to take down the democratic candidates who have
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:28 PM
6 hrs ago

liberal views, by any means necessary.

ANY. MEANS. NECESSARY. Even the Pope is onto the billionaires, and they are fighting back really hard.

TBF

(37,786 posts)
54. Yeah, we've got to be really careful w/candidates
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:12 PM
5 hrs ago

They were going to go after Platner no matter what (they are going to be laser-focused on keeping Maine); but from all the scuttlebutt it sounds like he just made it easy for them. This is going to be a long primary season.

PatrickforB

(15,565 posts)
74. If the Catholic Church does this, it will be very good for this earth and all its people. n/t
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 06:13 PM
1 hr ago

nycbos

(6,755 posts)
9. Maybe just maybe we should've looked at the SS tattoo and the blog post blaming women who get drunk...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:12 AM
8 hrs ago

... getting raped and said,"These seem like major red flags. Let's find a different mainstream progressive candidate who can beat Sue Collins in November while we still have time."

If we did that, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now.

I am a lifelong Democrat. I started volunteering on campaigns at 13, collecting signatures to get Bill Bradley on the ballot in New York when he ran for president. I have worked on campaigns as both a volunteer and a paid staff member in six states at all levels of the ballot, from city council races to presidential elections. I've slept in strangers' basements. I've gotten on a plane to a different state to start work with 24 hours' notice. I am also Jewish. I am absolutely disgusted by the fact that the party I have been a part of my entire life has embraced a man with an SS tattoo.

The left has long had a problem with antisemitism. Either because people believe that Jews are collectively responsible for the actions of the Israeli government or because they believe all Jews are "white" and "rich," so it doesn't matter if they face discrimination in the first place. Watching these people cry victim after their candidate got exposed as a horrible human being brings me a high level of satisfaction.

lapucelle

(21,358 posts)
76. Actually, there was news about her case today.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 06:42 PM
33 min ago
Judge orders the release of Trump’s $5 million payment to E. Jean Carroll
Updated Jul 8, 2026, 3:00 PM ET
PUBLISHED Jul 8, 2026, 1:32 PM ET

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered the release of more than $5 million to E. Jean Carroll rejecting President Donald Trump’s attempt to delay paying the former magazine columnist a jury found he sexually abused and defamed.

The ruling from federal Judge Lewis Kaplan comes after Trump had asked him not to release the money to Carroll until the Supreme Court decides whether it will reconsider his petition to challenge the jury’s finding that he sexually abused and defamed the former magazine columnist.

Lawyers for Carroll could not immediately be reached for comment.

Trump filed a notice with the court that he will appeal the decision.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/08/politics/judge-orders-the-release-of-trumps-usd5-mil-to-e-jean-carroll

==================

Judge orders transfer of Trump’s $5 million payment to E. Jean Carroll

President Donald Trump’s legal team swiftly appealed the ruling and filed a motion seeking an emergency administrative stay to block the release of the funds.
Jul. 8, 2026, 6:14 PM EDT
By Lisa Rubin and Clarissa-Jan Lim

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered that writer E. Jean Carroll be paid $5 million plus interest in damages stemming from a judgment in one of her two civil cases against President Donald Trump.

Trump had made a last-ditch effort late Tuesday to stop Carroll from collecting the money. In a brief requesting that the disbursement of the damages be halted, the president’s lawyers argued that because his request for the Supreme Court to reconsider its refusal to hear his appeal is pending, there is no final denial from the justices on the matter of his appeal, and so the distribution of those funds to Carroll is not justified.

Trump’s legal team swiftly appealed the judge’s ruling Wednesday. They also filed a motion seeking an emergency administrative stay to block the release of the judgment funds in the case, arguing the money could be impossible to recoup if it is distributed before his appeal is resolved.

https://www.ms.now/news/trump-again-tries-to-block-e-jean-carrolls-5-million-payout

nycbos

(6,755 posts)
57. True
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:25 PM
4 hrs ago

But we don't have the power to fix that injustice at this time. What we do have the power to do, and hopefully we learned our lesson, is that when a "progressive" candidate shows such glaring red flags as Platner did, we can find a Plan B before it's too late.

I'm not holding out any hope, though, because the left didn't learn its lesson from 2000, 2016, and 2024. We are now at the point where the rights that were won in the 20th century are now under attack and, in many cases, under threat of being lost entirely. Many on the left still have not learned how to tell the difference between an imperfect friend like Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and Kamala Harris from a deadly enemy like George Bush and Donald Trump.

PCB66

(232 posts)
31. I don't think he is anti Semitic
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:26 PM
6 hrs ago

I just think he did the macho thing in his Army unit and got the tattoo.

To me that was not a red flag. It was low class to post the video bashing his fellow soldier but the real red flags were the credible reports of sexual harassment and even rape.

I know how important it is for us Democrats to take the Senate. However, surely there are better candidates in Maine that doesn't have his baggage.

The MAGA crowd will beat him up everyday in the media if he stays in. Not much chance of him winning.

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
38. So far there have been no proven "red flags" that have held water.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:46 PM
6 hrs ago

This latest one, dropped at the very same timeline in the election as the first one who came out, was it one week or two, before the primary? Just before it was found that she worked for Susan Collins?

Now this second one, who CONVENIENTLY deleted all the texts she wrote to her friends about being a victim (so there's no proof) just ONE WEEK before he has to drop out to allow a different candidate, or is it two weeks? The same woman who just recently went to see a therapist about it?

Here's what she had said previously.



I cannot believe so many democrats are so ready to believe the right wing media. Graham Platner was against supporting Israel until they quit with the genocide. Follow the money.

sheshe2

(99,203 posts)
43. Cenk Uygur and The Young Turks?
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:09 PM
6 hrs ago

The Young Turks – Bias and Credibility
The Young Turks is rated Left with Mixed factual reporting by Media Bias Fact Check.

These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward liberal/progressive causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appealing to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage liberal/progressive causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-young-turks/

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
46. I was more focused on the MSNBC reporting on that post.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:20 PM
5 hrs ago

I didn't do the homework to go check out the original MSNBC link. Sorry.

MorbidButterflyTat

(5,057 posts)
68. You keep posting that like it means something
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 04:02 PM
3 hrs ago

She was contacted by the New York Times, she didn't contact them. Can you see the difference? The New York Times contacted a rape victim and she didn't immediately spill every single detail to them so she's lying??

What right do they have asking her anything of that nature at all? Not a doctor or a therapist, the freaking New York Times.

Rape is traumatic. Talking about it is traumatic. Being accused of lying about it is traumatic. Having it splashed all over the internet is traumatic, especially when it includes vile accusations and disbelief.

This stupid highlighted snippet means nothing.

hadEnuf

(3,697 posts)
53. LOL, not long ago tattoos like that used to be called "youthful indiscretions" by the GOP.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:58 PM
5 hrs ago

And it's a given that a lot of MAGATs have similar ones as well. Just look at Pete Hegseth.

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
36. "The left has long had a problem with antisemitism."
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:32 PM
6 hrs ago

That is historically untrue. Democrats are not the ones who are anti-Semitic. Do you remember the march in Charlottesville? "Jews will not replace us"?

Democrats are not the ones who look at people's skin color or religion and try to shame them.

It is the right wing Netanyahu wing of the Israeli government that democrats everywhere are fighting against, just like we are fighting the right wing here.

nycbos

(6,755 posts)
62. Did you read the part where I've been working on Democratic campaign since I was 13.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:47 PM
4 hrs ago

I also remember October 7, when people on the left celebrated the largest massacre of Jews since the holocaust. I remember Jewish students being stalked and harassed on college campuses. And I watched the mayor of the city I grew up defending the phrase "globalize the intifada" after terrorists targeted Jews in Boulder, Colorado, and Bondi Beach. A person just got elected to Congress from New York City, who attended and spoke at a pro-Hamas rally in Times Square. And Hakeem Jeffries is embracing these people.

The frontrunner for being the Democratic nominee as Senator from Michigan said: "the synagogue attack needs to be viewed in the context of Israel's actions." It is the height of antisemitism to say American Jews are responsible for the actions of the Israeli government. And it's also part of the centuries-old dual loyalty trope.

Antisemitism is one of the causes that unites the far left and the far right. The horseshoe theory of politics is real. But seeing it become acceptable in Democratic circles is worse for me because I spent my entire life working in Democratic politics, and it feels like a personal betrayal.

lapucelle

(21,358 posts)
45. Some folks will gaslight you about the anti-Semitism and others will be taking names,
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:15 PM
6 hrs ago

but you are absolutely right.

If folks had taken the concern over the SS tattoo seriously way back in October when the story broke, we wouldn't be where we are now.

nycbos

(6,755 posts)
59. The gaslighting is why I prefer right wing antisemitism to left-wing antisemitism.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:29 PM
4 hrs ago

The right-wing antisemitism is direct and honest with its hate and it's totally free from gaslighting.

MorbidButterflyTat

(5,057 posts)
67. He used the drunk card multiple times as an excuse for his crap
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 03:51 PM
3 hrs ago

If women don't want to get raped, don't get drunk!

And that's the guy people thought was gonna stand up for women??

Pinback

(13,759 posts)
11. The Platner revelations are a gift from the gods
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:17 AM
7 hrs ago

to RW media and conservatives (and mainstream media, for the most part).

To be clear, I don’t blame Jenny Racicot for one nanosecond for sharing her story, and Platner needs to get lost, like yesterday. But this is predictably being used as ammunition against the Democratic Party and progressives in general.

And for lazy pseudo-journalists, this means they can coast for a while on a wave of scandal.

Meanwhile, as you say, the off-the-charts depravity of the Slobfather, his family, and the criminal enterprise known as the modern Republican Party go unchecked. Somebody wake us up from this fucking nightmare.

malaise

(299,997 posts)
15. We're on the same page
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:23 AM
7 hrs ago

but their dear leader and more than a few elected ReTHUGs shoukd have got lost ages ago.

SamuelAdams

(450 posts)
13. We're all sick of Platner.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:19 AM
7 hrs ago

Hopefully he drops out today and we never have to hear about him again.

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
41. No. I'm not sick of Platner. I'm sick of lynch mobs.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:52 PM
6 hrs ago

And people believing stuff they should seriously question.

TBF

(37,786 posts)
55. My personal opinion is that AIPAC wants either
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:15 PM
4 hrs ago

Susan Collins or Jared Golden in that seat. They don't care about parties as much as they care about Israel. Both Collins & Golden have taken their donations in the past.

notinkansas

(1,326 posts)
61. The timing of this is truly suspect - at best.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:41 PM
4 hrs ago

Given the margins Platner won by in the primary, I really feel that him leaving the race will hand the Senate seat to Susan Collins. With no time left for investigations/defense - that's just too convenient. It's a sorry situation. Lose a Senate seat or accept a candidate who will have no opportunity to defend himself. Anybody remember Al Franken?

johnp3907

(4,391 posts)
75. I've been seriously questioning Platner all along.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 06:30 PM
44 min ago

Questioning a lot of DUers these days too.

LeftInTX

(35,131 posts)
19. People are waiting for Platner to resign. Hopefully he will.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:42 AM
7 hrs ago

Once the July 13th deadline passes, there will be a new story.

If he stays on the story will die. But the voters won't forget.

If there is a new "primary", that will then be the story.

LeftInTX

(35,131 posts)
51. Cornyn asked Paxton to resign numerous times. It didn't work.. LOL
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:51 PM
5 hrs ago

It's up to Paxton to exit the race and then the Texas GOP will put another MAGAT in his place. However, I don't think Paxton is going to quit.

The issue with Platner is a "Democratic primary race" issue. Yes, he won, but if he resigns there will be another primary of sorts and a new candidate.

Paxton is crookeder than crooked.....But Democrats can't do anything about him being on the ballot.

Raftergirl

(1,983 posts)
16. People didn't want to hear the truth about Platner. It was all out there. Especially on this site they didn't want to
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:25 AM
7 hrs ago

hear it.

ShazzieB

(23,137 posts)
24. Some of us let ourselves get carried away by our excitement at the possibility of unseating Collins. 😕
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:02 PM
7 hrs ago

Guilty as charged here. I don't think it would have happened under "normal" circumstances (i.e., if the need to take control of Congress so that Trump can be reigned in wasn't so great), but it did. For a few brief, exciting moments, the possibility of getting rid of Collins seemed close enough to touch, and it was too much for some of us. Mea culpa.

At this point, I just hope he goes quietly and does so as quickly as possible. The only place I ever want to see him again is in my rear view mirror.

LeftInTX

(35,131 posts)
40. When I heard that he had a Nazi tattoo, I thought
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:48 PM
6 hrs ago

he was done.

The governor of Maine was running anyway, so I thought, "Then it will be her"

A few months ago, people were saying Mills was "too old" and they were coming up with excuses for his Nazi tattoo.

I'm like "whatever".

I don't know what all happened in between.

krawhitham

(5,126 posts)
18. I've read multiple articles and saw 3 tv stories in the last 24 hours about the turd refusing to pay E Jean
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:34 AM
7 hrs ago

Martin68

(28,401 posts)
25. I was offended by the Washington Post putting a headline about Platner's failure to use a condom at the top of the
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:05 PM
7 hrs ago

front page today. They never gave Trump's rape conviction, conviction for his "university's" fraud, or any of his other sins that kind of exposure.

Response to Martin68 (Reply #25)

WinningAgain

(60 posts)
26. Platner is in the news
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:06 PM
7 hrs ago

Because he handed the Senate to the Repubs.

Probable another justice on the SC.......

BComplex

(10,078 posts)
30. And his accuser went out with him AFTER the alleged rape, and just like the previous
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:24 PM
6 hrs ago

accuser, came out in the same time frame of the primary election. This has AIPAC written all over it.

All of her supposed texts to her friends have somehow disappeared. She just finally spoke to a therapist recently.

As soon as many of Platner's backers walked away from him, they started on Abdul Al-Sayed. It's not Platner. It's all the candidates who are against supporting Israel financially, after the genocidal positions the Netanyahu government keeps supporting.

AIPAC has unlimited money (supported by our tax dollars) to "find" people who are somehow scarred by the candidates that are calling out Netanyahu and the Israeli government for their genocides. The deeper the dive on these accusers, the more their stories seem convenient.

And our AIPAC infused media throws everything they have at the democratic candidates that support getting our tax dollars out of Israel until they quit with their extreme right policies and genocidal actions.



AloeVera

(4,732 posts)
48. Yes, Al-Sayed is next. It will start with the NYT. And then...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:38 PM
5 hrs ago

I would be amused by the predictability of it all if I were not so horrified.

maxsolomon

(39,530 posts)
32. The Platner story is hot. It's today's news.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:27 PM
6 hrs ago

The E. Jean Carroll payment hasn't budged in a couple days. His lawyers are still contesting it in court.

WHEN he pays up (he will because he put the money in trust) it will be a 2-day story in the middle of his ongoing maelstrom of offensive bullshit.

OC375

(1,241 posts)
35. The media has been out of control since at least the OJ trial.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 12:31 PM
6 hrs ago

It’s business.

We do love dirty laundry, but even that has to be fresh.

This is fresh. That’s the business.

Sometimes it helps you, sometimes doesn’t.

Retrograde

(11,488 posts)
56. We have the best media money can buy
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:19 PM
4 hrs ago

and it's nothing new - the biggest difference now is how few media outlets there are. Even in the Good Old Days when even small towns had at least one newspaper, those papers had editorial biases and slanted the news. It usually wasn't as blatant, and the news empires weren't as big. Another problem IMHO has been the continuous shift to the Right since the 1970s - the Republican Party (which under Eisenhower was radical by today's standards) becomes a bit more conservative, the Democrats move a little to the right to meet them in the middle, on and on.

If the people responsible for reporting did their jobs, and if the people voting did theirs (i.e., become even the least bit acquainted with candidates and issues), we'd never have elected as unqualified person as the current president. Maybe - the US has always had its share of incompetent demagogues and clowns who somehow get elected time and again.

senseandsensibility

(26,158 posts)
58. You expect them to call out the PROVEN sexual abuse of the CURRENT president?
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 02:27 PM
4 hrs ago

Even when there is breaking news about it? Yeah, not gonna happen.

MorbidButterflyTat

(5,057 posts)
64. I saw it
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 03:37 PM
3 hrs ago


It's a day that ends with Y, and Piggy is a corrupt criminal asshole. Who can really keep up with all of his shit. I'm sick of hearing about him!

AdamGG

(1,919 posts)
66. Alleged sexual assault vs. adjudicated rapist
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 03:49 PM
3 hrs ago

Trump had 23 women willing to come forward and be named to claim that he sexually assaulted them. In addition to Trump being found guilty by a jury of assaulting E. Jean Carroll, there was someone who came forward and said that Trump and Jeffery Epstein raped her when she was underage.

As ridiculous as it is for Trump supporters to jump on the Platner case, he should step aside. Before the latest allegation, it was documented that he had sext messaged with 12 women shortly after being married, he had a lot of offensive Reddit posts, he kept the Nazi tattoo for 18 years before covering it up and must have realized what it was long before removing it.

It's lucky that the latest story came out with a week to go before the deadline when his name can be changed on the ballot. That makes me thinks that maybe R's weren't involved in leaking this story because they would likely have rather have hit him with it when a change was no longer possible.

If Platner gives an eloquent speech that acknowledges his shortcomings but also his genuine passion for the issues, he could still have a decent career. He'll have huge name recognition and can probably get book contracts and be a pundit. He could have valuable advice as a political consultant since he was able to do extraordinarily well with going from unknown to candidate and probably would have useful advice for others.

Maine needs to pick his replacement carefully and choose a very strong candidate who has no potential baggage. I'd be hesitant on Janet Mills because she's 78 and didn't inspire people in the primary. There must be someone dynamic and qualified who could appeal broadly and say that although he had some personal issues, Platner connected with people over some serious problem with the system and they are going to passionately carry that fight forward and rally people to remove a Trump puppet from the Senate.

They should repeatedly list all the pro-Trump votes that Susan Collins has taken in the Senate at every public appearance. There are 4 months to completely switch the focus away from Platner, who should go silent during that time.

slightlv

(8,259 posts)
72. malaise
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 05:21 PM
1 hr ago

I don't think I've said anything about Platner because the media is so hypocritical when there's E. Jen waiting for money she's been awarded since what... 2015? and then there's all the girls/women still waiting for justice surrounding Epstein. And yet, *suddenly* all eyes are on Platner. Now... understand, I'm NOT saying whether that's good or bad. If he's an abuser and/or rapist, he has no place in our party. Period. But Al Franken stands so strong in my mind, and I still can't help but feel we railroaded a good man out of our party for antics and showtime shenanigans - not hardcore abuse or casting call couches. THOSE people have gotten off with pardons or never made to stand trial.

One thing WE need to keep in mind as it comes close to election time is wolves among us. With AI, smearing is going to become so much easier to do, and it IS common knowledge (I would hope) that we democrats DO have solid family values that far outstrip what the republicans call "family values." And, just like Laura Loomer tried to do yesterday to Mark Kelly... we're going to see more and more of that crop up around our people - male and female, I'm afraid. Now Laura's idiocy ran so far to range afield that EVERYONE knew it was complete idiocy - after all, it was a maga idiot who shot Mark's wife (shown in the picture with him) in the head! But make no mistake, the republicans know the only way they can lose the elections across the states is if they can make the democrats lose the elections, themselves. And boy, have we shown in the past that we can do it. They'll pick on our favorites... which for a large number of people out there are people in the vein of Sanders, Mamdani, and AOC... others like Newsom, Pritzker, and, oh, malaise... we have such a HUGE number of excellent democrats to choose in our 50 states!!!! But like everyone else, they're only human, and someone will find *something* in every single one of them with which to bash them. The Repuglicans took a solid movement that needed to come into being... the "Me Too" movement, and turned it against us. Just like they do everything good. They took a tool and turned it into a weapon.

Again, I'm not saying ANYTHING about Platner. I honestly admit I know nothing about ME politics, other than Susan Collins... and don't get me started on her! (LOL) What little money I have to contribute I use to fight my butt off for democrats here in my little rural area in KS. We've got some real uphill battles forming here. Platner may be guilty as sin, and in that case, may he get what he deserves. I'm just coming from an angle of fear around losing some candidates who may not even WANT to run because they may not want their lives or the lives of their friends and family dissected by republicans like frogs on slides. At some point, politics is going to be a zero sum game, where the zero sum is gonna be the least capable is going to be all who WILL run. I mean, Lordy... can you imagine what the U.S. would have done to JFK today? And we'd have ended up in nuclear war over the Bay of Pigs without him, IMO.

I've probably said too much, for having no dog in this fight, other than being a hardcore democrat ever since I could vote. I just was beginning to see tears show up around this subject... and for good reasons... but it hits us in a soft spot for us. And we've got to unify with each other and watch out for each other. I hope I haven't been too far out of line. If so, I sincerely apologize....

MorbidButterflyTat

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73. Deadline White House Nicole Wallace discussing now
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 05:43 PM
1 hr ago

With Andrew Weissman and Joyce Vance looking way too skinny.

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