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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEx-girlfriend of Graham Platner says he removed condoms without consent during sex
Lyndsey Fifield, who said she dated Platner from 2013 to 2015 in D.C. and has previously accused him of physical abuse, said that she told Platner on multiple occasions that he had to wear condoms during sex because she was not on birth control.
He would pull condoms off, she said in an interview. He would do it in a sneaky way. He wouldnt tell me.
In a statement in response to questions about Fifields allegation, Platners campaign called the claim categorically false and politically motivated. The statement noted Fifield supported now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh when he was accused of sexual assault prior to his confirmation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/07/07/ex-girlfriend-graham-platner-says-he-removed-condoms-without-consent/
https://archive.ph/ExpS2
lame54
(40,489 posts)Just get rid of him
QueerDuck
(2,351 posts)RandySF
(88,394 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)occur (STI, pregnancy, injury, etc). Outside of the latter (and even WITH one or more of the latter), very hard to prosecute. Civil court usually hears these.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,559 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)The substantiation required sans a deleterious related outcome is very difficult. My understanding is exactly one (in his state) has ever been successfully prosecuted--and even then resulted in a favorable (to the defendant who had no other "transgressions," ) negotiated outcome, out-of-court.
Sans other issues, juries and judges are readily convinced the act was "accidental."
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,559 posts)Especially crimes against women.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)accumulated and overwhelming evidence--and even then fail to get a true conviction, I can assure you this is not a priority. Sex crimes, yes. But, these become "he said, she said." or "the condom came off when I lost my erection, judge and I was so embarrassed, I didn't want to admit it..." Think they won't latch onto that excuse or explanation? I've got news for you. Not to mention, this is far more common in relationships than you might think and judges/juries know so and sometimes it is mere accident that a partner might not accept as so.
Thus, these are not prosecuted in most cases. Saying otherwise doesn't make it so.
And on this WAPO piece.. I find this article gratuitous in every way and smacks of unprovable bad behavior meant to malign and pile-on for any number of motivations. Is he a creep? Pretty clearly yes? Might he have been subject to a sexual assault charge had his (other) accusers chosen to pursue? Likely. And he should have been, if so. Thus, there is plenty to write about from his accuser(s) who maintain they were raped or any of his other provable behavior. If this individual has experienced this, then that is the issue to discuss.
EdmondDantes_
(2,346 posts)Whether or not a crime is rarely charged doesn't have much impact on the morality of the behavior. White collar crime is rarely prosecuted. Rape is rarely prosecuted. It's not a defense of shitty behavior.
And at what point does a guy who has spent his entire adult life mistreating women stop getting the benefit of the doubt?
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)That is false in every way.
BTW, we've had major issues-- in the many years DU has been here-- with men (and i can only assume from your chosen posting name that you are a male) attempting to call out the site's feminist women to mansplain and lecture US on issues related to rape, assault, access to birth control, abortion, and other high impact issues to women and those others capable of giving birth. Yes, anyone can be raped, but the issue in this case is female rape, female assault, and intentional destruction of a condom in use with a female potentially at "risk" for pregnancy and certainly STIs. For that reason, we have a number of feminist forums, but these issues obviously are likewise discussed in GD. I would urge you to refrain from moving from interactive civil discussion to accusatory affront. That my issue was a legal discussion for an important issue that impacts women, but for which --even on this thread--some invalid information is being promoted is what I sought to correct. We (especially those of us who engage and lobby on change re: these issues ) certainly need to understand the facts of what we are dealing with. Kindly take my admonition to heart.
EdmondDantes_
(2,346 posts)"I find this article gratuitous in every way and smacks of unprovable bad behavior meant to malign and pile-on for any number of motivations."
That's giving him the benefit of the doubt right there. Or did someone else write the post for you?
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2026, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)
and which can be validated at least with contemporaneous corroboration of reporting. If you read even one iota of what I have written on the matter you would know (and I believe that you DO) that I am NOT giving him benefit on the doubt about anything, just that the emphasis and focus should be on that which can be proven. The rest is, yes extraneous and unprovable--yet need not be to effect his removal from the nomination, whether by voluntary withdrawal or not.
I note that you have made a habit of this kind of posting toward others. That you do so knowing full well that you are taking snippets out of context to suit your own desires is the worst of disreputable responding--some might wonder if it was "trolling". If you don't mean to troll then you can be more aware of it and cease, or issue apologies or both. But it is beyond reprehensible and I have seen you do it with multiple DUers. Bye.
WinningAgain
(53 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)But, I don't need to know his condom habits. Nor, I'd argue does the rest of the world. If you have a partner that does this, then send him packing. If you face consequences (pregnancy, STI, other) from his doing so, then bring a civil action (it is not a criminal act unless the sex was nonconsensual, repercussions occur, and only in a few states--prosecution on this would be difficult without a lot of substantiation). Still, inform his next girlfriend if you want and any you know who show interest...
But, the rest of us, no. The rape allegations are serious and deserves the attention given.
This crap? No. It smells of "15 minutes of fame" or at a minimum, vitriol and vengeance. Both which can
be done outside the Washington Post.
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)The Times chose not to publish most of it, and Racicot also talked to them then and they chose not to even talk about her evidence.
This isn't "condom habits," stealthing is sexual assault. This IS rape.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)The legal realities are as I have defined--straight from discussions with one who has tried to prosecute on this--very very difficult. Even if you think it should be or would be otherwise. Juries, judges, and even other prosecutors do not always agree on your interpretation nor that the accusations are valid sans a lot of other victims echoing the same. Sans that, your interpretation is instead interpreted as the "accidental" excuse swallowed (no pun intended) judges and juries so often these are not being prosecuted.
Don't like it? We have a hell of a time getting sexual assault and rape (same in some states where penetrative) prosecuted. An intentionally failed or claim of an intentionally "removed" condom mid-act is not going to be pursued the same given its likely failure in court sans a lot of additional evidence.
So, yes. This is gratuitous in this context.
MerryBlooms
(12,650 posts)Makes no sense to continue defending
Who do you see can take his place on the Dem ballot?
Man, this is a hot mess!
I feel bad for Mainers right now.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)I have no idea who is the best alternative. But, I don't think it is wrong to look at the policy positions he proclaimed that had the electorate wanting to support him to find someone compatible to those principles.
The problem is without name identity, there will be so little time to inform--even if they quickly hold a dozen or more caucuses throughout the state. I don't see much of an alternative, though. If the leadership picks someone, I predict abysmal failure and backlash--no matter who it is.
Age has become so much an issue on so many political fronts, I just don't see the former governor, Janet Mills being an option and she holds more centrist ideology, I think. But, she sure would be a logical choice ordinarily.
MerryBlooms
(12,650 posts)Her voting record did her in, Ageism is what media ran with, and picked up in DU.
Like I said, I feel bad for Mainers. From the fire to the cast iron skillet over the open fire.
If I read correctly, the thirteenth is the deadline? Man, that's a heartbeat away.
Anyway, good wishes to you and yours. Time for these old legs to get busy again
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)Best wishes to Mainers finding a good alternative who can and WILL defeat Susan Collins. Sigh...
Katinfl
(954 posts)obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)Sorry if that's TMI to you. Wow.
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Nanjeanne
(6,905 posts)Polly Hennessey
(9,086 posts)Wonder how many times this happens everyday in the USA? Spare me. 😝
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)WTF am I reading on this site.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)A few have, yes. But prosecutions as I have laid out before almost always fail unless a pattern can be shown or it is combined with violent rape. That is the truth. Whether you or I might disagree, your statement is not universally accepted and certainly not by courts. Even California--the first state to pass a law addressing this had to downgrade to civil prosecution, not criminal.
Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)who are either less informed or perhaps better informed, given it is not being prosecuted as rape or even sexual assault in MOST states and in those that do is most often a civil, not criminal prosecution, as I laid out from my relative who has prosecuted such cases.
Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/
JefilteFish
(4 posts)From a long term DUer like you, its completely baffling to see you and others downplaying this. Ive had this done to me. Do you remember what its like to be a woman in reproductive years, feeling vulnerable already with a man, and then have him put your HEALTH at risk? Its a massive violation. And then you have to worry about PREGNANCY. So theres more time and emotional energy spent, $50 for planB, maybe you weigh more than 150lbs so it doesnt work, then you need an abortion. Maybe youre in a state where you cant get one
And on and on. All because a scum bag man cant be trusted and slipped condoms off.
It FEELS LIKE ASSAULT. That is why is IS ASSAULT in multiple places, and should be everywhere.
I dont give a F about Platner one way or another beyond how he has totally screwed our party, but its up to Mainers to decide how they want to move forward.
But I wont sit here on DU and let you underplay what slipping condoms off really means to women. Even women who are MAGA and we dislike.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)from consideration and that needs to be the target.
I am not underplaying the condom issue and yes, I've been an active GD feminist on this board far longer than you have even lurked and certainly longer than you have posted.
I am well versed in the law on this and have posted some facts that need too be understood. To that point, I am educating women who may be given a VERY WRONG impression where the law is on this across the nation--whether you or I or anyone else agrees that that SHOULD be the status . If you bothered to read my posts you would know that to be the case. Instead you take a snippet to try to make a very disingenuous and ill-informed post. I would normally welcome you and I would still like to do so, but not if you are going to do this. Be serious and read posts with the intent the poster is obviously trying to convey or intentionally or obliviously take things out of context to try to make your own point at the false expense of others. If that is not your intent then perhaps take a breath, read far more and absorb before you make such broad brush and very false assumptions and accusations I hope you will take that to heart. Your assumptions are unbelievably wrong.
JefilteFish
(4 posts)Nobody is talking about a criminal prosecution, why are you fixated? This is critical discussion about the ethical fitness of a candidate for high office, or from an angle of pure political expedience, can Platner win with this stink of so many allegations on him?
But you infecting this thread with defeatist rhetoric about how stealthing can never be punished or believed doesnt do anything but make every woman whos been victimized like this feel invisible.
We need to get Platner out now, and maybe you can direct your energy at making these laws more effective.
no_hypocrisy
(55,847 posts)For decades, I've heard about guys advising other guys not to accept a condom from girls/women b/c there might be holes from pins in them.
And here's this guy who's chill with impregnating his partner, perhaps leave her with a venereal disease AFTER she believed he was using protection.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,350 posts)At some point the 500 question purity test done with a lie detector is going to become standard. I just have a hard time getting past a convicted rapist and known serial liar who has a pedophile cloud following him everywhere was elected President of the United States with 77+ MILLION votes. Maybe thats just me.
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)Even California (the first state to pass a law, only did so after changing it from a criminal to a civil statute):
Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/
While this is not the latest article, it conveys what my close relative--a state prosecutor in one of these states--has been up again. Prosecutions fail at this point because it is not perceived as some would like.
Most states do NOT (currently) consider it rape. That is the problem. No, it isn't ME. It is the facts.
mcar
(46,713 posts)Sexual assault is not grooming.
milestogo
(23,423 posts)Go figure.
MorbidButterflyTat
(5,039 posts)his feeling pleasure without the interference.
TommyT139
(2,569 posts)...so it's surprising to me that some commenters who objected to it didn't just skip onto the next post. Clicking on a clearly-titled post seems like a form of consent to me.
For those still wondering why this needs to be news, consider that for many readers, here and elsewhere, there is lack of awareness and misinformation about what is often termed "stealthing." Only a few states have laws passed against it, or legislation working through the process to become law. So the conversation is just starting. Like other analogous issues, this news story might be the first time people who have experienced this, or other types of reproductive coercion, are learning about what some states and advocacy organizations are doing to stop it.
Here's a recent article giving an overview:
https://19thnews.org/2026/04/stealthing-nonconsensual-condom-removal/
demmiblue
(40,126 posts)The fact that people dont see the seriousness of this type of act is rather disturbing.
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)demmiblue
(40,126 posts)Especially some of the comments from posters I have grown to respect over the years. ☹️
I may have to take a break from here. :sigh:
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)as I have repeatedly posted. As my relative has tried to prosecute these cases (and failed) because the few states that have laws are most often civil--even California--and thus not clearly considered rape. Should it be? That is a different question that I'm not arguing. But the reality is (as some of the possibly more informed, and not less caring, less concerned DUers may know) is not prosecuted as sexual assault but rather a civil offense in most states. Those where a law may specifically allow for a serious sexual assualt prosecution rarely succeed as I have laid out direct from one who has tried.
Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/
I put my feminism and support for sexual abuse/assault/harassment victims against anyone, but I am also educated on these issues, thanks to my own interest (including outside of medicine) into law from my extended family "legal community"--which is both extensive and diverse in terms of practice. I also do not denigrate other DUers who are not educated on the matter and conflate them (without other evidence to the contrary) as uncaring, misogynists, or anything else. The truth is this issue is complicated and many here may actually know THAT as well. Rape is something most fully appreciate. This is an emerging serious violative issue, but the law on it is not at all consistent, clear, or readily applied.
So, if my statement of the current state of facts is disturbing to you and you wish to call me out or "lose respect" for me. SO be it. I hope that is not the case, but truth is not always what we want to hear or read.
TommyT139
(2,569 posts)I had assumed a more even split, instead of just three states with legal clarity.
But this has happened to at least one friend of mine, and apart from whatever consequences happen in the moment, for them it left a lingering inability to not be on guard during intimate moments.
Yeah, we get it - Platner's gotta go. In the meantime, this is another conversation that is bubbling up, and that needs to.
demmiblue
(40,126 posts)obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)Too.
hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)that is NOT helpful. He is despicable for many reasons. Period.
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)hlthe2b
(115,399 posts)"Thus, there is plenty to write about from his accuser(s) who maintain they were raped or any of his other provable behavior. If this individual has experienced this, then that is the issue to discuss."
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21358812
If you are saying she has been one who made a clear prior accusation of rape, that wasn't clear to me. If it is a substantiated accusation with contemporaneous discussion at the time, then I agree, this aspect would be valuable applied to a rape prosecution, had she gone that route, and greatly increase the likelihood of successful prosecution and be considered in sentencing as well.
The current victim's statements, her interviews, and the reporting thereon are certainly enough to convince most as to what this candidate has been and likely still manifests. The other victims add to a pattern. Given none apparently want/wanted to criminally prosecute for rape, the impact on his future is probably limited to his political aspirations. Although civil suits are certainly still possible.
On all this, we are in absolute agreement.
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)Often criminally so, too.
sarisataka
(23,181 posts)Even amongst people who say they are progressive the victim is doubted and blamed
Or the assault is dismissed. Because it happens every day
I just think of how many times he has been called rapist in chief and now have to wonder what really was behind those words. Was it disgustwith his actions? Or was it just a convenient empty insult?
obamanut2012
(29,799 posts)I am shake by these comnents, not gonna lie.
I feel EarlG needs to step in.
Jirel
(2,395 posts)We need to use that language. When we write a headline that minimizes it (They were having consensual sex. He just took off his condom.), we are making excuses for rape. Sex with a condom was consensual. Sex without one was not. Its really that basic.
Iggo
(50,174 posts)Iggo
(50,174 posts)In fact, I had already heard enough when I heard his bullshit response to the tattoo fiasco.
You all are just catching up, is all.