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DemocratSinceBirth

(102,095 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 03:20 PM 12 hrs ago

***BREAKING NEWS*** Idaho Mother Who Was Part of RFK Jr Anti-Vaccine Group Charged With Murder of Twin Children

An Idaho woman who said her toddler twins died last year after being vaccinated faces murder charges connected to their deaths, authorities said.

A grand jury indicted Andrea Shaw, who is accused of suffocating her 18-month-old twins in May 2025, on two counts of first-degree murder on June 29, according to court records and a statement from the Payette Police Department.

While appearing last year on an internet show produced by Children’s Health Defense — an anti-vaccine group founded by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — Shaw said her twins died after getting vaccinated. Kennedy has not been affiliated with the group since December 2024, when he formally resigned as chairman to join President Donald Trump’s administration

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https://apnews.com/article/andrea-shaw-idaho-mother-twins-death-vaccines-b9939f118a03619765c7dccf2c479e4c




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***BREAKING NEWS*** Idaho Mother Who Was Part of RFK Jr Anti-Vaccine Group Charged With Murder of Twin Children (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth 12 hrs ago OP
Sigh. Dave Bowman 12 hrs ago #1
Oh geez. blm 12 hrs ago #2
Munchausen syndrome by proxy maybe? harumph 12 hrs ago #3
plain ol murder will do just fine. Not all mothers are good. Maru Kitteh 10 hrs ago #15
And Casey Anthony. n/t iluvtennis 10 hrs ago #21
I'm with you 100% LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #23
So, turns out that not only did she B.See 11 hrs ago #4
And melt the lock... GiqueCee 9 hrs ago #30
Nothing says "We're Not a Cult So Stop Saying That" better than engaging in a bit of ritual child sacrifice AZJonnie 11 hrs ago #5
Defense counsel: "Well, technically they died after being vaccinated. The timeline is factual. flvegan 11 hrs ago #6
Time stamp at :35 seconds in falls this logic that conservaturds use AZLD4Candidate 10 hrs ago #8
The anti-vaxxers should use this: GreenWave 9 hrs ago #31
Horrifying. QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #7
She allegedly murdered her twins to discredit vaccines DemocratSinceBirth 10 hrs ago #9
Sometimes I question my opposition to the death penalty... or the guillotine. QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #10
I'm also opposed to the death penalty, generalbetrayus 10 hrs ago #12
Being against the death penalty is sometimes Very trying! electric_blue68 9 hrs ago #24
OMG! I figured she murdered her twins and then blamed it on vaccines. LeftInTX 10 hrs ago #11
Which means other children and adults could die because of her. They heard the first story but not the second. Wonder Why 10 hrs ago #14
Why would she vaccinate her children if she is an anti vaxxer? xuplate 10 hrs ago #13
She probably "became one" after the death of the children as a cover. nt BWdem4life 10 hrs ago #17
What took them so long? She suffocated them over a year ago and she's just now being charged? LeftInTX 10 hrs ago #16
Suffocation may be easy to prove but who did it might not be so easy. The length of time it took to charge her may be yellowcanine 10 hrs ago #20
It's weird. Maybe a spouse in the picture? LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #22
Or a grandparent, baby sitter, etc. yellowcanine 9 hrs ago #28
Idaho has the death penalty for 1st Degree Murder. yellowcanine 10 hrs ago #18
As someone who couldn't have children MustLoveBeagles 10 hrs ago #19
Mine, too! calimary 9 hrs ago #25
How about abandonment? ninjanurse 9 hrs ago #26
Guaranteed that anyone connected to nutjob bobby jr is a nutjob psychopath like him. nt ImNotGod 9 hrs ago #27
Oh Boy...News can truly be heart-Breaking.. chouchou 9 hrs ago #29
If she really believed vaccinations kill, she was incited by RFK and Trump. Doodley 6 hrs ago #32

Maru Kitteh

(32,151 posts)
15. plain ol murder will do just fine. Not all mothers are good.
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:08 PM
10 hrs ago

See Susan Smith.


My only question on this whole business is what the hell took them so long? Suffocation deaths are usually fairly easily identified and not one but two children popping up dead at the same time? Really?

B.See

(9,087 posts)
4. So, turns out that not only did she
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 03:36 PM
11 hrs ago

murder her own children and lied about it, but contributed to the endangerment and possible deaths of other children by blaming their deaths on the vaccine.

My recommendation: Lock her up and throw away the fn key.

GiqueCee

(5,201 posts)
30. And melt the lock...
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:25 PM
9 hrs ago

... and I'm not sure, but I think Idaho still has the death penalty. I'm not a DP supporter, but murdering your own children for likes from psychopaths like Kennedy definitely tops the list of justifiable exceptions.

AZJonnie

(4,270 posts)
5. Nothing says "We're Not a Cult So Stop Saying That" better than engaging in a bit of ritual child sacrifice
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 03:38 PM
11 hrs ago

Those poor babies

flvegan

(66,736 posts)
6. Defense counsel: "Well, technically they died after being vaccinated. The timeline is factual.
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 03:41 PM
11 hrs ago

Lots of people die after being vaccinated. My great grandmother died last year and she was vaccinated in 1953."

GreenWave

(12,899 posts)
31. The anti-vaxxers should use this:
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:25 PM
9 hrs ago

1796 – Edward Jenner develops and documents first vaccine for smallpox

And guess what? They are all dead today!

generalbetrayus

(2,096 posts)
12. I'm also opposed to the death penalty,
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:02 PM
10 hrs ago

but there are people who have been executed that I would never shed a tear over, like this woman.

Wonder Why

(7,518 posts)
14. Which means other children and adults could die because of her. They heard the first story but not the second.
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:06 PM
10 hrs ago

Probably because Faux Noose doesn't carry stories like the second when the first one occurred.

LeftInTX

(35,111 posts)
16. What took them so long? She suffocated them over a year ago and she's just now being charged?
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:12 PM
10 hrs ago

WTF? Seriously. Suffocation is easy to prove at autopsy.

yellowcanine

(36,906 posts)
20. Suffocation may be easy to prove but who did it might not be so easy. The length of time it took to charge her may be
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:20 PM
10 hrs ago

a problem. Suggests a lack of witnesses.

yellowcanine

(36,906 posts)
28. Or a grandparent, baby sitter, etc.
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:17 PM
9 hrs ago

They have to have some probable cause to charge her but that is not the same as proving it beyond a reasonable doubt. Unfortunately there could be anti vaxxers on the jury who would not be critical thinkers.

yellowcanine

(36,906 posts)
18. Idaho has the death penalty for 1st Degree Murder.
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 05:15 PM
10 hrs ago

But the state still has to prove it. Without a confession it may be difficult.

calimary

(91,653 posts)
25. Mine, too!
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:04 PM
9 hrs ago

Some people can, and do, get a giggle out of this. I can’t. All it does is make me angry on their behalf.

ninjanurse

(152 posts)
26. How about abandonment?
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:10 PM
9 hrs ago

Drop the kids off somewhere safe and go have your breakdown. That’s a better plan.

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