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F.D.R (Original Post) 4bonhoffer Yesterday OP
led by bernie, they can call themselves anything. rampartd Yesterday #1
Not led by Bernie, the non-Democrat. murielm99 Yesterday #11
Bernie's fine TVguyCards Yesterday #14
Bernie Sanders is a fine Senator SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #34
We all know why he's refused TVguyCards Yesterday #42
What leadership position? SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #44
You bet there are. murielm99 19 hrs ago #43
Why led by Bernie? SamuelAdams Yesterday #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Full Moon Yesterday #2
FDR on the subject of robber barons, oligarchs, and war hawks. Intractable Yesterday #3
They should declare themselves FDR Democrats La Coliniere Yesterday #4
We could also use Eisenhower Republicans! biophile Yesterday #5
Yes! I myself loudly and proudly claim FDR Democrat but Eisenhower repub slightlv Yesterday #10
Today's RepubliKKKans Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #26
Agree - also let's revive FDR's song Sanity Claws Yesterday #6
But, FDR was a Communist! Bayard Yesterday #7
FDR saved capitalism in America...nt Wounded Bear Yesterday #13
He was a traitor to his class. Boomerproud Yesterday #19
And tho he's long dead, they still do... by destroying every single one of us slightlv Yesterday #35
100% Blue Full Moon Yesterday #8
Yupppp SSJVegeta Yesterday #9
I've called myself an FDR Democrat for years Bluejeans Yesterday #12
That would be Democratic Socialists of America. n/t aggiesal Yesterday #15
That's what my immediate family has always been. ananda Yesterday #16
FDR democrats were segragationists, SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #17
Yeah this part keeps getting glossed over Boo1 Yesterday #31
I know SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32
Hell, less than 4% of the current population was even around when he was president fujiyamasan Yesterday #39
Segregationists were squeezed out of the party in the 40s Torchlight Yesterday #40
Some did but after Truman SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #41
I like this idea . . . Scubamatt Yesterday #18
This would lose a lot of elections. Scruffy1 Yesterday #20
Well said SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #21
You don't have to invoke FDR, or even save his name. indusurb Yesterday #24
We need to go farther than that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #25
Farther than what? indusurb Yesterday #27
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #28
I suggest that you go read FDR's 1944 inauguration speech indusurb Yesterday #29
There was no inauguration in 1944 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #30
My bad, it was his 1944 SOTU speech indusurb Yesterday #36
Cool SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #37
Born and raised ... mntleo2 Yesterday #22
FDR died over 80 years ago fujiyamasan Yesterday #33
FDR Democrat describes all Democrats. Who isn't one? Biden was often compared to FDR. betsuni Yesterday #38

murielm99

(33,183 posts)
11. Not led by Bernie, the non-Democrat.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:54 AM
Yesterday

I have been asking that we refer to our people on the left as FDR Democrats. But Bernie has nothing to do with what I would like.

TVguyCards

(128 posts)
14. Bernie's fine
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:24 AM
Yesterday

Not sure what your problem is with him other than stuff from over a decade ago but focus, we have fascists to beat!

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
34. Bernie Sanders is a fine Senator
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:14 PM
Yesterday

But he has constantly refused to join the Democratic Party. Plus he's in his 80s. There are younger leaders in the Democratic Party to led it forward.

TVguyCards

(128 posts)
42. We all know why he's refused
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

And remember, he is in a leadership position within our party.

Ask why young people love Bernie. Do you know who else they love? Ed Markey who won his election thanks to young people who showed up in droves for him due to his stance and policies on climate change.

Here, have a picture of him on a windy day lol 😂 This picture always cracks me up lol

murielm99

(33,183 posts)
43. You bet there are.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:46 PM
19 hrs ago

I will follow and endorse several of them. We are all Democrats, and we remain a big tent party.

SamuelAdams

(440 posts)
23. Why led by Bernie?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:16 AM
Yesterday

He is an octogenarian who has been in Congress since 1993. We keep talking about needing new, younger leaders but many of those same people keep clinging to Bernie. Why can't AOC or Mamdani lead the left flank of the Democratic coalition?

Response to 4bonhoffer (Original post)

biophile

(1,733 posts)
5. We could also use Eisenhower Republicans!
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:36 AM
Yesterday

For years in PA, I was registered as Republican, mostly so I could vote in the Republican primaries for the more sensible candidates. (PA has closed primaries) in the general elections, I could vote for Democrats. It also gives me some more credence when I call the R representatives to complain. I live in a red part of the state, so my Congressman is always R.

slightlv

(8,246 posts)
10. Yes! I myself loudly and proudly claim FDR Democrat but Eisenhower repub
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:38 AM
Yesterday

could rally some repubs not gone over the edge yet. I hate typing on my phone or id say more. It already disappeared one whole sentence of mine!

Jilly_in_VA

(14,791 posts)
26. Today's RepubliKKKans
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:53 AM
Yesterday

think Eisenhower was a SOCIALIST. Just look at how they react to some of his statements.

Bayard

(30,798 posts)
7. But, FDR was a Communist!
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:39 AM
Yesterday


FDR did wonderful things for this country, even while living in real pain (not bone spurs.) MAGAts won't recognize it because they know nothing of history, and don't want to know. They should have to sit down and watch the documentary of his life on the History Channel.

slightlv

(8,246 posts)
35. And tho he's long dead, they still do... by destroying every single one of us
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:14 PM
Yesterday

who still remember and admire him and the laws he made. I am not so well versed on Eisenhower, I'll admit... having been a life-long Democrat.

SSJVegeta

(3,522 posts)
9. Yupppp
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:32 AM
Yesterday

People who will fight for universal Healthcare, a living wage, corporate accountbility... 😒 🤔

Bluejeans

(165 posts)
12. I've called myself an FDR Democrat for years
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

When I mention it, conservatives nod in understanding but never say a word

ananda

(35,918 posts)
16. That's what my immediate family has always been.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:41 AM
Yesterday

Nobody who understands the Great Depression
can be anything other than a New Deal Democrat.

I learned about the Great Depression from stories
my parents and grandparents told me.

Roosevelt saved their lives, literally. Gave my dad
a job with CCC before he became an airplane mechanic
in Dallas... allowed him to get a free college education
after the war. Etc.

When Eisenhower got elected my Irish grandmother
wrecked her car, she was so upset.

When my cousin came out to her parents, my uncle
said: Is that all? I thought you were going to say you
became a Republican.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
17. FDR democrats were segragationists,
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

anti-semetic and Asian bigots. Look to the future, not the past.

Boo1

(715 posts)
31. Yeah this part keeps getting glossed over
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:10 PM
Yesterday

We had literal concentration camps in the 40s, for a specific race.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
32. I know
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:12 PM
Yesterday

FDR and the new deal is only meaning to older white Americans. Not to anyone else.

fujiyamasan

(2,225 posts)
39. Hell, less than 4% of the current population was even around when he was president
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:43 PM
Yesterday

Besides, so much of our current population is foreign born or born to those who emigrated here.

Calling ourselves FDR is a bridge to nowhere. While I admire many things he accomplished invoking the name of a president that died over 80 years ago shows how out of touch some folks are.

This is like hearing republicans call themselves the party of Lincoln. It’s all laughable and you gotta wonder who this rhetoric appeals to.

At least 40% of the population was born after 1993 and the Clinton years were perhaps this country’s absolute peak in terms of power and overall standard of living. The only president to leave a fiscal surplus. That sounds like some sort of fantasy at this point.

Torchlight

(7,357 posts)
40. Segregationists were squeezed out of the party in the 40s
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:52 PM
Yesterday

becoming their own independent party in '48. Look to the future yet still learn from the past.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
41. Some did but after Truman
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:45 PM
Yesterday

Integrated the military, which FDR refused to do. The rest went in the 60s when LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. But the party under FDR in the 30s was full of segregationists.

Scubamatt

(343 posts)
18. I like this idea . . .
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

but I wish we could dispense with labels and just state policies that we favor. Republicans and the media are masters at taking a name and twisting it without getting into substance. How about just stating what we want to enact? Health Care for All; Living Wage; Clean Air and Water, A Woman's Right to Choose . . . . Polls show that the majority of Americans support these policies, but when we fall into the trap of allowing ourselves to being labeled "socialist" or "tax and spend", people make decisions based on their reaction to that label, rather than the substance. It's Marketing 101 and the Republicons are masters at it.

Scruffy1

(3,570 posts)
20. This would lose a lot of elections.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

Talking about something from nearly a hundred years ago will get you nowhere. Maintaining the status quo is a loser like in 2024. Mexico just got universal health care and a guaranteed 40 hour work week. The only way to counter right wing bullshit is to attack, not react.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
21. Well said
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:09 AM
Yesterday

Involking FDR and the New Deal is a fool's errand. It will make Democrats look out of touch and stuck in the past. Plus many minorities, such as African, Jewish and Asian Americans, don't revere FDR and the New Deal the way middle class white people do.

indusurb

(380 posts)
24. You don't have to invoke FDR, or even save his name.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:30 AM
Yesterday

But just following through on his Second Bill of Rights would fix many of our problems.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
25. We need to go farther than that
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:48 AM
Yesterday

It's a different world with different problems and challenges.

indusurb

(380 posts)
27. Farther than what?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

Single payer healthcare?
Free education through college?
A living wage for all, including farmers?
Doing away with unfair competition and monopolies?
Good housing?

These address very real, modern day problems. Yes, there are other needs to be addressed, but this is a good start

indusurb

(380 posts)
29. I suggest that you go read FDR's 1944 inauguration speech
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

I also think you read the commentary, both modern and contemporary, around that speech. You also need to recognize that this speech was done in collaboration with his VP, Henry Wallace, a man who was a socialist in everything but name. FDR was truly progressive, for his time and ours. Certainly much more progressive than any of the Democratic candidates since 1972.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
30. There was no inauguration in 1944
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:02 PM
Yesterday

and FDR's VP was Truman in the 44 election. Their inauguration was in 1945 and here's FDR's speech: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/froos4.asp

SocialDemocrat61

(8,460 posts)
37. Cool
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:30 PM
Yesterday

Great place to start with more details on how to implement that resonate with today's voters.

mntleo2

(2,663 posts)
22. Born and raised ...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:10 AM
Yesterday

... an FDR Democrat through and through. I learned all the WOBBLY songs, I was taught real democrat, and though I did not believe it as a young person, but my mama told me to never EVER trust a Republican, she said all they care about is money and detests the working class.

I believe it 100% now. We laughed and were proud that FDR mocked us as being "too socialists" by calling we Washingtonians, "The Soviet Republic of Washington. I am old but I remember the teachings well from my grandparents' knee so I listened, and for decades I have been a democratic socialist and will be one until I die. Here is a "democratic socialist" song. speaking to establishment politicians that should revive as a song for today even though it is 130 years old. Post it everywhere.

Here is the 1894 song often sand as a children's song but in reality it was written in 1864 as a protest song. Listen to the song and read the words, it is the way I have felt since Reagan.

&list=RD7VTMVmwDrJE&start_radio=1

Love Cat from Seattle

fujiyamasan

(2,225 posts)
33. FDR died over 80 years ago
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:12 PM
Yesterday

Just 4% of the population is over 80. Our current population especially in many swing states is foreign born or born to those who were foreign born. It’s a completely different country.

betsuni

(29,510 posts)
38. FDR Democrat describes all Democrats. Who isn't one? Biden was often compared to FDR.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

Obama's ACA was FDR-like. It's really the status quo for Democrats. FDR: the Democratic establishment.

Or do you mean, after Trump's commie ranting, as a way to assure voters that Democrats aren't socialists or commies?

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