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angrychair

(12,523 posts)
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:26 PM 13 hrs ago

Even Robert Reich is Disappointing Me

Apparently, despite speaking for decades on how billionaires are screwing everyone and ruining the economy and screwing over the little guy, Robert Reich has endorsed Tom Steyer for governor of California.

I could not be more disappointed to find out the guy is just a closeted billionaire bootlicker.

Very disappointed.

This endorsement seems sus to me…

Let’s get real: Tom Steyer built his fortune off private prison investments and fossil fuel money, then turned around and tried to buy political credibility with that same wealth. That’s a dealbreaker for me.

Why the flip flop?
@rbreich.bsky.social

Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline.com) 2026-05-20T21:38:23.008Z

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Even Robert Reich is Disappointing Me (Original Post) angrychair 13 hrs ago OP
Yeah that sucks FoxNewsSucks 13 hrs ago #1
Maybe he thinks he has the best chance of winning? Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #2
Yeah, that jungle primary is so fucking stupid. FoxNewsSucks 12 hrs ago #4
Sixty contenders on ballot for governor Sequoia 1 hr ago #34
He has ads running narrated by Jane Fonda ... LSparkle 12 hrs ago #3
I openly hate all billionaires angrychair 12 hrs ago #5
I see, you openly HATE all billionaires. Abolishinist 12 hrs ago #9
It becomes more nuanced angrychair 11 hrs ago #10
No, it doesn't become more nuanced. FascismIsDeath 19 min ago #44
All of them? Disaffected 10 hrs ago #16
All billionaires. angrychair 9 hrs ago #18
What about Ebenezer Scrooge? Sequoia 1 hr ago #35
However, she is giving large portions away and, Disaffected 41 min ago #39
Which is the whole purpose angrychair 25 min ago #43
Here's The Thing: With Taxes, Govt Can Be---Can Be---Fair And..... ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #20
Agreed. nt Disaffected 39 min ago #40
Yeah, I don't get it either Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #6
I would argue angrychair 12 hrs ago #7
Yeah, that's my rule too- no celebrities or billionaire candidates- ever, period. Nt Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #8
seems only fair to provide his reasoning TheProle 11 hrs ago #11
One Can Always Find A Reason When One Changes.... ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #22
TY, snippets from your link... Cha 7 hrs ago #26
I agree with Reich. CoopersDad 11 hrs ago #12
All billionaires are scum angrychair 10 hrs ago #13
And Just The Term "Private Prisons" Should Be Anathema!! TOTALLY.... ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #21
Feel free to flame me,.... but FHRRK1 10 hrs ago #14
It's a tough choice. And I missed the second debate, so there's that. I'll try to watch it. Abolishinist 10 hrs ago #17
Post removed Post removed 8 hrs ago #23
Because WE're Dems for Democracy, Cha 7 hrs ago #24
Message auto-removed Name removed 7 hrs ago #25
Nah. The PEDO, Homicidal Maniac in Cha 7 hrs ago #27
Looks like I missed a moron MustLoveBeagles 42 min ago #37
My speculations: hunter 10 hrs ago #15
That's the way I vote here in TX - TBF 1 hr ago #33
Reich posted Steyer explaining "Why Tax Cuts for the Rich Are So Stupid" back in 2017. betsuni 8 hrs ago #19
Oh yes, "the purity test", except Cha 6 hrs ago #29
FDR was a wealthy man who did right for the poor and disadvantaged. Tim S 7 hrs ago #28
This. SSJVegeta 6 hrs ago #30
I think that is where the confusion angrychair 1 hr ago #32
Your point is irrefutable. None the less Steyer is not just occasionally doing the right thing SSJVegeta 51 min ago #36
To be fair angrychair 42 min ago #38
I highly respect your stance. To be clear: SSJVegeta 31 min ago #42
Also to be fair angrychair 17 min ago #45
A current example is JD Pritzker (gov of Illinois) - TBF 1 hr ago #31
I'll believe a billionaire actually cares angrychair 33 min ago #41
There are some that almost have to be ITAL 7 min ago #46
That part angrychair 3 min ago #47

FoxNewsSucks

(11,926 posts)
1. Yeah that sucks
Wed May 20, 2026, 10:47 PM
13 hrs ago

but I will at least want to see his explanation for an endorsement of Steyer.

LSparkle

(12,232 posts)
3. He has ads running narrated by Jane Fonda ...
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:06 PM
12 hrs ago

That initially surprised and disappointed me. Tonight I heard Sheldon Whitehouse sounding like he supports Steyer getting into the CA governors’ race. He contrasted Steyer’s efforts trying to fight the fossil fuel industry to Bozo’s hollow words today in his CNBC interview, implying that Steyer is a “good” rich guy as opposed to Bozo. I respect both Fonda and Whitehouse and now I’m really confused about Steyer.

I’m also angry at the stupid jungle primary CA is running — whoever thought this would be good for our state is crazy.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
5. I openly hate all billionaires
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:18 PM
12 hrs ago

All billionaires. All of them. There is no such thing as an "ethical" billionaire. They are antithetical to free and fair society.
They are, by their very existence, destructive to our country: economically, politically and socially.

Abolishinist

(3,057 posts)
9. I see, you openly HATE all billionaires.
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:37 PM
12 hrs ago

I'm curious, why draw the line there?

So tell me, what about someone worth a mere $500 million? Do they get a pass? What is the practical difference between the two, one has $500 million more than the other?

Let's go lower, let's say $100 million.

Please tell me where you draw your hatred line. Thanks!

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
10. It becomes more nuanced
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:22 AM
11 hrs ago

As it goes below a billion.
Billionaires are easy because, as I already said, there are no ethical billionaires.

Then it comes down to how you made your $500 million. Was it being a hedge fund manager? Owning private prisons? Leasing warehouses to ice? Running sweat shops?

When the growth of your wealth is tied to the exploitation of people or the environment or politics, my hate for that grow linearly.

Disaffected

(6,577 posts)
16. All of them?
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:15 AM
10 hrs ago

How about Bezos' ex?

"MacKenzie Scott is one of the biggest names in philanthropy. The billionaire novelist, philanthropist, and ex-wife to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos has donated an eye-popping $26 billion since 2019."

https://fortune.com/article/mackenzie-scott-26-billion-donations-net-worth-amazon-shares/

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
18. All billionaires.
Thu May 21, 2026, 02:42 AM
9 hrs ago

No exceptions. Billionaires should not exist at all. Not one.
Even her. Short answer is that she may have given away billions but she is almost as wealthy now ($33 billion) as when she got her divorce settlement ($38)

Disaffected

(6,577 posts)
39. However, she is giving large portions away and,
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:08 AM
41 min ago

she is still wealthy primarily because her Amazon stock keeps appreciating at a rapid rate.

As well, it is not a simple thing to just give away wealth, that's the easy part. The hard part is giving it away wisely and that takes some time and doing.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
43. Which is the whole purpose
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:24 AM
25 min ago

Of creating a charitable foundation.
She can reduce her personal wealth to just hundreds of millions and funnel her earnings from Amazon straight to that foundation.

But she doesn't.

She continues to horde it.

Like all billionaires do.

They are all the same. They all value being wealthy, powerful and influential more than they value people.

ColoringFool

(1,086 posts)
20. Here's The Thing: With Taxes, Govt Can Be---Can Be---Fair And.....
Thu May 21, 2026, 03:06 AM
8 hrs ago

Equitable with how they are used.

With billionaires, the disbursement of personal wealth is always Noblesse Oblige. Or not.

So while MacKenzie might be one of the "good" billionaires, the MORE BASIC QUESTION is:

Why can we not tax properly and attempt to lessen the NEED for private charity?

"I have always depended on the kindness of strangers" is not how a democratic society should care for its citizens.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,107 posts)
6. Yeah, I don't get it either
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:21 PM
12 hrs ago

First, the cryptobros drop several million to buy Genius Act votes from Gallego and a dozen other Dem senators, now Steyer is getting endorsed by Old School Dems we long presumed to be progressives,

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
7. I would argue
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:30 PM
12 hrs ago

That, as a progressive, I will laugh in the face of anyone, claiming to be a progressive, that is also endorsing a billionaire for public office. Especially one that made their money as a hedge fund manager that invested heavily in private prisons.

ColoringFool

(1,086 posts)
22. One Can Always Find A Reason When One Changes....
Thu May 21, 2026, 03:13 AM
8 hrs ago

Clothing, spouses, or long-held beliefs.

Cha

(320,641 posts)
26. TY, snippets from your link...
Thu May 21, 2026, 04:24 AM
7 hrs ago
You may be thinking: a billionaire? Hear me out. Steyer is the only candidate with a plan to tax the wealthy and corporations to invest in public services.

Yes, the billionaire is the only candidate with a plan to tax billionaires.

Steyer is the only candidate who has said he’d vote for the billionaire wealth tax, and he’s also said we need to go even further. Under his revenue plan, he’d raise taxes on corporations and other billionaires to fund schools and healthcare.

Steyer understands that economic growth depends on a strong middle class, not trickle down nonsense.

On the issue of artificial intelligence, Steyer is the only candidate with a plan to tax Big Tech and share the gains with working people. Under Steyer’s plan, he will guarantee every worker impacted by AI has a good-paying job.

When it comes to single-payer healthcare, Steyer is also committed to making California a model for the rest of the nation.

But don’t take my word for it. Steyer’s progressive policies have won him the support of nurses, teachers, and other labor unions across the state. At the same time, PG&E, Chevron, and MAGA billionaires are spending millions against him.

We’ve had wealthy Democratic politicians before. FDR and JFK had tremendous fortunes, yet they enacted some of the most progressive policies in American history.

Meanwhile, the other candidates in the race for governor haven’t taken a stand on the billionaire wealth tax. Why? I fear it’s because they don’t want to upset the wealthy donors and corporations backing their campaigns. It’s that simple.

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/tom-steyer-for-governor-of-california

CoopersDad

(3,370 posts)
12. I agree with Reich.
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:44 AM
11 hrs ago

Becerra, while polling better and a comfortable fit for traditional mainstream Democratic Party standards, is too weak to take on the ever more powerful tech billionaires that Steyer professes he can and will.

We need to work differently and give serious thought to nontraditional candidates.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
13. All billionaires are scum
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:54 AM
10 hrs ago

He is a hedge fund billionaire that made its wealth from private prisons.
Billionaires drown out the voices of normal people because their wealth makes sure they are the only voice heard.
Billionaires are destroying the country: financially, socially and politically.

ColoringFool

(1,086 posts)
21. And Just The Term "Private Prisons" Should Be Anathema!! TOTALLY....
Thu May 21, 2026, 03:08 AM
8 hrs ago

UNDEMOCRATIC IN EVERY SENSE!

FHRRK1

(135 posts)
14. Feel free to flame me,.... but
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:00 AM
10 hrs ago

If the race was tight between him and Becerra, I would likely vote for Steyer.

Does the billionairre status give me pause, yes. But the other candidates really sucked in the 2nd debate. Becerra being extra lame.

So to explain it to those outside of CA. The Governer doesn't have that much power. Propositions rule. The Dems have a Super Majority, so if the Gov. vetos anything (non Proposition) and then the Super Majority overrules.

So basically, anyone with an (R) can be of help to tRump to run scams. Unless Steyer is a tRump plant (not very likely) then there isn't anything he could do to impact us.

Anyway, holding on to my ballot until the last minute purely due to the race for Gov. Just need to elect someone with a D by his/her name.

I was hoping for two Dems to get to the final two. Looks like Hilton (R - Douchebag) has a top two spot locked down. So the only goal it to get one Dem to vote for and then we are good.




Abolishinist

(3,057 posts)
17. It's a tough choice. And I missed the second debate, so there's that. I'll try to watch it.
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:17 AM
10 hrs ago

First of all, I can't STAND Katie Porter. I've posted before that we attended a fundraiser for Katie, and in a brief 'private' moment with her she treated me like crap. So after that, and not knowing much about Becerra, I decided to support Steyer.

However, yesterday evening we attended a private fundraiser for Becerra, and I found him to be well spoken, with good ideas on how he would go forward if elected Governor. I know, in the end it's all politics, I have no delusion that any of them are really able to implement their plans, but he had a good story and came across as being sincere.

So at least for now, he's got my vote, but I'm still working on it.

Response to FHRRK1 (Reply #14)

Cha

(320,641 posts)
24. Because WE're Dems for Democracy,
Thu May 21, 2026, 04:05 AM
7 hrs ago

Not for fukcing PEDO Protectors.

We don't want fucking Fascists in charge of Blue California.

Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Cha

(320,641 posts)
27. Nah. The PEDO, Homicidal Maniac in
Thu May 21, 2026, 04:31 AM
7 hrs ago

the WH leads all the PEDOs in the World

Fucking Stupid Traitor Moron.

hunter

(40,860 posts)
15. My speculations:
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:02 AM
10 hrs ago
* They know something we don't, true or not, but plausible to the "average" voter. (Sadly, many people believe what they see on TV and the media would hammer on it.)

* They are fearful of a Republican victory

* They think Steyer will be out of his element and won't do as much damage as a Republican Governor with a Republican staff would. A Republican governor's office would be staffed with the most disruptive deplorables the billionaires who own the Republican Party can buy and would probably be independent of the Trump circus making them more dangerous.


I'll hold off voting until the last day, as is my custom. My vote will be practical. Candidates with ideologies similar to my own are so far out there as to be unelectable.

TBF

(37,203 posts)
33. That's the way I vote here in TX -
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:41 AM
1 hr ago

Currently TX shows as a democratic majority in "registered voters". Which in Texas means you've turned up for a primary and picked a side. We don't register any other way. So, this can change from year to year depending upon which primary you choose to vote in.

I look at the top-level candidates, especially, with an eye towards who can actually get out the vote and have a chance at winning. Purity aside, you have to actually get into office before you can do anything.

betsuni

(29,298 posts)
19. Reich posted Steyer explaining "Why Tax Cuts for the Rich Are So Stupid" back in 2017.
Thu May 21, 2026, 02:54 AM
8 hrs ago

Should also have "Why Helping Republicans by Purity Testing Allies and Turning Them Into Boogeymen Is So Stupid." Big problem with populism.

Tim S

(302 posts)
28. FDR was a wealthy man who did right for the poor and disadvantaged.
Thu May 21, 2026, 04:49 AM
7 hrs ago

Being wealthy doesn’t automatically make you bad (just “suspect” in my book).

SSJVegeta

(3,147 posts)
30. This.
Thu May 21, 2026, 05:12 AM
6 hrs ago

Steyer has proven he is the most progressive candidate. Being a billionaire doesnt automatically mean he wont follow through on doing the right thing.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
32. I think that is where the confusion
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:37 AM
1 hr ago

Comes when it comes to billionaires.

The issue with billionaires isn't that they will not, occasionally, do the right thing.

The problem with billionaires is they suck all the oxygen out of a room. No one else's opinion matters when a billionaire enters the metaphorical room.
A normal candidate, even in a race like this, may amass several million dollars to run their campaign but billionaires have unlimited funds.
Steyer, in this example, has outspent his nearest opponent by 24 to 1. He has spent over $200 million dollars trying to win the governor's race.

How, as a normal person, fund raising, are they to compete with that?

While some may genuinely come to the conclusion they like him as a candidate but how do we know it was actually because they are the better candidate or was it because of their money, their voice was the only one that people heard?

SSJVegeta

(3,147 posts)
36. Your point is irrefutable. None the less Steyer is not just occasionally doing the right thing
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:59 AM
51 min ago

He is on the right side of the issues entirely. Yes he has the resources to advertise thay point, but he has been consistent with that reality since he entered politics.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
38. To be fair
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:07 AM
42 min ago

I'm not in California so my comments are academic.
I'm unwavering in my opinion of billionaires and no one will ever convince me that a billionaire hedge fund manager that made his wealth off private prisons, suddenly becomes a progressive that cares about people.

No hedge fund manager, current or former, is dropping $200+ million dollars without expecting an fat return on investment. The greed is hardwired into their brains.

SSJVegeta

(3,147 posts)
42. I highly respect your stance. To be clear:
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:18 AM
31 min ago

I dont so much think you are wrong, as much as I hope you are.

He has given us some indication that he is more than just trying to blend in as a progressive. Desite his capitalistic foundation, I think his donations have always been progressive and supporting democratic advancement.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
45. Also to be fair
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:32 AM
17 min ago

Happy to be wrong. If he even does half the stuff he says that would be amazing.

I don't think I am going to be wrong.

As I said up thread about Mackenzie Scott, if a billionaire really wants to prove they have changed its rather easy, give up being a billionaire. Not on your death bed but while you are still living.

Reduce your personal wealth to just hundreds of millions (more than enough for a hundred lifetimes) put the rest into a charitable foundation and all future earnings go to that foundation.

It's not complicated. They could do that.

They never do.

TBF

(37,203 posts)
31. A current example is JD Pritzker (gov of Illinois) -
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:33 AM
1 hr ago

there are always wealthy who see the game for what it is. Back in the day of Marx, it was Engels (his family was wealthy - owned textile plants).

People think they are voting for prom King ... personality & beers ... all that. And while that is no doubt a factor, those w/charima rise up, it is very enlightening to look at someone's past voting record to see what they really support.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
41. I'll believe a billionaire actually cares
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:16 AM
33 min ago

When they willingly give up being a billionaire.
While there have been a couple, I remember a lady that gave all the billions she had to a university medical school, but not until it was the end of her life.
Why isn't hundreds of millions of dollars enough?

ITAL

(1,380 posts)
46. There are some that almost have to be
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:42 AM
7 min ago

Because a lot of the money is more theoretical than what they may actually have at their disposal on a day to day basis. For instance, the Rooney family owns the Pittsburgh Steelers and have for nearly 100 years. That was a great investment when they got the franchise back in the day for a couple of thousand bucks since it's worth about 7 billion now. They pay their star employees (the players) well and they have plenty of other folks on their payroll who come out pretty nicely too. I mean, maybe they could pay their janitors better, I don't know...but the point is they aren't hoarding money. The team is worth a ton because the NFL is a massive brand and they were lucky enough decades ago to get in on it. I'm not sure what they could do about that unless they sold their entire stake and then gave it away.

angrychair

(12,523 posts)
47. That part
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:46 AM
3 min ago
unless they sold their entire stake and then gave it away.


Or as an alternative, they could still continue to pay the players and staff well, still maintaining hundreds of millions in personal assets and then funnel all other earnings to a charitable foundation.

There is ALWAYS a way not to be a billionaire. 99.9% of the population of the world manages to do it every day.

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