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It's probably me, but lately I scroll through 30 threads before I find one to click on.
I rarely respond to posts that cut and paste and then the author just walks away. I want to know the posters' opinions not some podcaster's opinion.
I want to see a debate today about why crude oil dropped 9% because once again we are being told that a peace agreement is on the doorstep. Who negotiated this deal?
My opinion about that is clear - Bullshit - market manipulation, and no I don't have a link, it's my opinion, I own it. If I am wrong and there really is a peace plan I will gladly publicly eat my words.
I do click on the animal threads, we all need some cheering up, especially me.
mopinko
(73,849 posts)and more than a little hopeless.
and its the same shit, every damn day.
PatSeg
(53,389 posts)I still try to keep up, but essentially I am so exhausted. I think we all need a break, but the shit keeps coming at us every day.
"It's the same shit, every damn day."
Meanwhile as everything speeds up, I'm getting older and slower. Plus my opinions and comments tend to feel redundant.
Bettie
(19,817 posts)seldom gets commiseration, but there is plenty of scolding about not keeping a positive attitude.
It is hard to keep anything resembling positivity when the world is falling down around us. No, not falling, being blown up around us.
I can't be up and hopeful all the times, especially as you said "the world is falling down around us". I certainly don't need scolding. It is reasonable and sane to have feelings of hopelessness under such overwhelming, extreme conditions.
That doesn't mean I don't have moments of optimism. However, I don't think it is healthy to suppress valid negative feelings. It should be okay to say "I'm exhausted and for now, I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Tomorrow I may feel differently."
I am open to positive outcomes even if I can't see them at the present time, so for now I'm trying to take it one day at a time.
Old-8643
(20 posts)53 thousand times and not be a little redundant.
You are working valiantly to educate the brain-dead masses and that requires repetition.
I admire your diligence.
Hang in there your efforts are appreciated.
Jim
PatSeg
(53,389 posts)is inevitable. Meanwhile, every day is a new start and I try to find something uplifting to get me through another day.
I think the one thing that tends to bring me down isn't so much Trump, but the many people who surround us who appear both mindless and soulless. I had no idea there were so many and I share a world with them.
Welcome to DU Jim. It is truly a great place for thinking and feeling people!
mountain grammy
(29,151 posts)my first thought reading the OP
Akakoji
(556 posts)The idea is to wear you out. To create exhaustion and apathy. To make you feel impotent, overwhelmed, incapable[able of doing anything. This is standard fascist playbook .It stops people from sharing, organizing, or even wanting to hear anything anyone has tp say, further alienating them. That allows the shit they do to be normalized. You need to scream. Keep screaming. Don't feel embarrassed or internalize anger - express it. Just don't direct it at the people who are most inclined to listen to you! That's what they want you to fo. To demoralize anyone you know that might care. Direct it at the SPECIFIC politicians that are doing these things. Don't argue as if they have a valid point. Their actions say all you need to hear. They have forfeited their right to an opinion by their actions.
Tree Lady
(13,383 posts)After fracture taking longer, its been 3 months and I am fighting moments of depression. I am normally a half full kind of person but with this muscle pain taking so long and every day Trump crap getting harder its a challenge.
mopinko
(73,849 posts)i had a yr and 1/2 of gi issues, including 2 major surgeries. started to get back on my feet, and lower back issues started up. treatments didnt help.
started pt, but had a fire in my house, my fault, so i havent been back.
this is about as low as i have ever been. trying to remind myself how lucky i am to b alive on both counts, but
im sure id b doing better if my country wasnt sinking into the sewer.
Tree Lady
(13,383 posts)Pt makes muscles hurt so bad I have to take muscle relaxer. I was doing exercises daily now down to 3 times a week including pt day as I need days off. Went to pool yesterday and walked in pool and floated with noodle felt great but I am sore today although not as bad as after pt.
mopinko
(73,849 posts)told me straight up that it is not his goal make me hurt.
starting to do the exercises he gave me, but the last few wks its all i can do to get through the day.
Tree Lady
(13,383 posts)This week will be 4. Last girl listened to me and lowered exercises way down and without band but still hurting. I heard they cut or stretch muscles really far to do operation so it takes long time to heal and after fracture longer because of trauma from that.
TexLaProgressive
(12,774 posts)The title of the post was interesting, none of the pasted words gave a hint requiring to use the link. Really, really anoying.
Irish_Dem
(82,096 posts)What else is there to say?
gab13by13
(32,630 posts)The ignorance is bolstered when news reporters debate stupidity. Congressional Magats rationalize the stupidity.
IMO the only reason for Krasnov to demand a billion dollars for his ballroom is to siphon money from it to his bank in Qatar. Magats are in charge of how the money is spent, Krasnov is following what the oligarchs and Putin do in Russia, steal tax dollars from the poor.
There isn't one person in authority who can make the claim that I just made, he/she would be sued until the cows came home with death threats the cherry on top.
The grand arch will be another Krasnov grift. Vietnam Veterans are suing to stop the arch that will defile Arlington Cemetary.
Irish_Dem
(82,096 posts)Greed, corruption, treason, racism, sexism, criminal behavior are the new norms.
Americans adore greedy corrupt billionaires and criminal politicians.
femmedem
(8,563 posts)People on DU often post interesting articles from sites I don't frequently visit, and I appreciate their efforts, regardless of whether they have the time or inclination to contribute to a discussion.
That said, I also appreciate hearing DUers' perspectives on the issues of the day.
PatSeg
(53,389 posts)One of the reasons I come to DU is to hear the various reactions to recent news stories. I already get emails from news sources. I like to augment that with voices of real people in the real world - that would be sane, thinking people of course.
One of the attractions of DU for me is the diversity and intelligence I find here. There are so many who can contribute excellent commentary, especially to issues where I may not be all that knowledgeable. It certainly has been an ongoing learning experience for me.
allegorical oracle
(6,525 posts)fresh information. Similarly, I try to post (hopefully) interesting news dollops without casting my opinions -- on an FYI basis. Like to see diverse perspectives because it helps me make up my mind about various issues.
justaprogressive
(7,101 posts)from places you don't regularly visit
might be afraid to voice their opinion, when their sources are being attacked.
FarPoint
(14,927 posts)I have been for about a year..... Plus, everything seems to parrot tRumps disinformation...claiming that is a lie but it still triggers me a tRump the focus....Big Puke for me...I can't do that anymore.
I want facts of an action step to stop the GOP enablers/ Congress and this administration....
I do not want tRumps, 'he said this ..." crap that is meant to get attention when this administration puts out the lie...powerless and only serve the master of Chaos....
I don't even listen to local news anymore let along any cable news.. instagram scrolling is what I do most for updates and some headlines scrolling du...
I can't absorb or process him any longer....waiting for action to stop...that is it.
gab13by13
(32,630 posts)There is a lot of discussion about it, that's what I was talking about.
Lovie777
(23,494 posts)but I also believe it will get more worse. Right now in the USA, the evils are upon us in the form of RWers/nazis/kkk/white supremacist.
Reading history, the early 20th century comes to mind. The rich get richer.
Rinse and repeat. Ya think mankind would learn from history but apparently not. Destroying books, wild conspirator theory's, lying, blaming particular group of people, wars, et al.....................
But here we are again.
Attilatheblond
(9,156 posts)But it sucks to be in one of the eras that are precursors of another Dark Age, complete with the new War Lords, the billionaires with serious personality disorders.
Tree Lady
(13,383 posts)And we are mostly studying slavery and what happened in late 1800s after Lincoln died. Learning a lot of things I never did in school. Like The women leaders of the suffragette movement were elitists and left the blacks out of their civil rights movement.
We think its bad now but 53,000 blacks were killed between 1865 and 1900. Facts I didnt know.
niyad
(133,704 posts)GreatGazoo
(4,668 posts)Major businesses that uses lots of oil and gasoline have their own trading desks. For example Pepsi. The cost of producing soda is so low that the majority of their costs are delivery (and plastics). They buy and hedge oil futures 6 to 12 months out.
Oil is the biggest commodity in the world economy but it doesn't take much to trigger some big swings on any given day of a war because the Pepsis and Spirit Airlines of the world don't want to get stuck paying way above market when their competitors aren't.
What seems to have bottomed the markets around 3/28 was Trump begging to end the war. Not the doing, just the turn around in attitude. It marked the end of escalation on the US's part.
Yesterday they shrugged off the exchange of fire. China said they will buy Russian oil despite sanctions. The world is realigning in ways that minimize the impact of Hormuz. So there is an element of 'this is the new normal'. Now they want to audit Is rail's nukes so things have really turned and there is momentum toward longterm de-escalation.
Trump is certainly not above manipulating markets but my take is that today's price drop is more a signal of his irrelevance than his influence. TACO is getting replaced by 'what Trump says doesn't matter.'
Marthe48
(23,335 posts)The thesaurus is out of words. On Facebook,I'm down to replying to maga comments with the puke emoji. Why argue with stupid? And I've noticed the puke emoji really sets them off, especially if I leave that and ignore any responses
On DU, I scroll by any news about any of the collaborators, their latest scandal, their latest attack on principles I've lived by my whole life. In my own world, I try my best to starve them of oxygen.
I know I need nonpolitical humor, human interest stories to function at a level where I can pretend to be normal, and maybe keep a lid on the resolute anger that simmers just below the surface, all day, every day. If I comment or contribute on DU, I'm going to avoid politics.
I know know how I feel, and I know how I feel won't change with further information about the regime. There is nothing wrong with being kind, helpful, honest, trustworthy. There is nothing wrong with accepting differences and celebrating diversity. Cruelty, selfishness, crime and lying are all wrong. I am secure knowing that if anyone in the regime says or does anything, it is a lie or a set-up. There was no reason to murder school girls, the start of this useless bombing mission. There is no cease-fire. There were no assassination attempts, at least not any that weren't badly scripted and ineptly acted. The only real thing happening is that criminals were profiting from all of the hard work that Americans do every day to survive. The criminals who are attempting to destroy the ideals of this country aren't content with taking just a little off the top. They want every single bit. Every house, every farm, every penny in every bank, every human they can treat as a slave or a sex object. The giant sucking sound you hear is a soulless monster atop a bottomless pit. When they go too far, which for me, was the corruption of 2016, the populace will rise and topple the criminal regime. People know the government will take some, but when they take too much, leaving families with nothing, they rise up. We cheer Robin Hood. We cheer the French Revolution. We cheer the American Revolution. It is not a matter of destroying the government, but bringing it to heel, making it work for the citizens and not accepting institutional slavery, wage slavery, grindingly numb days of putting one foot in front of another for someone else to realize dreams and gain acquisitions.
I guess I'm not out of words, but I'd rather be living in a reality where I felt like writing letters to my friends, or poetry.
Ocelot II
(131,089 posts)those little red boxes indicating a video. I don't want to watch a video unless it's about animals. I don't even want to read a brief summary of a video. If I wanted to watch videos of bloviating podcasters who try to lure viewers in order to harvest their clicks and likes with tendentious all-caps headlines I'd go right to Youtube and skip DU altogether.
hamsterjill
(17,720 posts)I hate clicking on a thread only to find a link to a podcast that Im supposed to wade through for ten minutes to even get to the material in the subject line.
PatSeg
(53,389 posts)So many of the videos are too sensational and redundant. They've become today's version of tabloids with catchy, clickbait headlines that often are barely addressed by the accompanied article.
Now, instead of articles, we get 20-30 minutes of video with a story that could have been summed up in 5 minutes or less.
Polly Hennessey
(8,926 posts)Cirsium
(4,070 posts)For the most part, the videos that are posted here are just awful and there's usually very little explanation as to what might be on them. There's a whole bunch of grifters making videos right now, even the ones that are supposedly on our side are just cashing in on our misery. What are they going to do when there's no more Trump? Because all they do is day after day after day post the same "look what Trump did today" and "here's how much I'm against it" nonsense over and over again. Yeah thanks, we get it. We're living in a nightmare. The video talking heads are exploiting that to make money. Both the anti-Trump and the pro-Trump people are grifting off of this catastrophe.
Johonny
(26,494 posts)Not because it's putting up numbers. There's some whacky things occurring in Trumps controlled economy.
kentuck
(115,521 posts)I like to read stuff I have not seen anywhere else. But that is not easy. I try to be original but it has become more and more difficult with the flood of propaganda.
GusBob
(8,287 posts)Approaching 50 again
And I agree with you
One day last week I click 5 OPs in a row----all clickbait videos without any discussion offered. I do not have time for videos
Also, and this is just me, I can recognize a rawstory post by keywords in the OP title ( "outrage" and other clickbait tease words)
hyperbole bores me
usonian
(26,334 posts)I fly by most, and have to ignore some fun forums just to have time for life.
Same for Hacker News.
I ignore vast numbers of trolls, get transcripts of maybe one really interesting video a day, block Mark Romano, the guy who jam-packs two sentences of info into a 30 minute video, and ignore one-issue posters (AI, how did you guess?)
I actually get great intellectually-savvy criticism of AI on the technically populated Hacker News forum.
And I spend some time making semi-original and (of course) wildly creative graphics.
Since DU as a news aggregator reflects news sources in large part, it can be depressing. But humans do filter well.
TheProle
(4,045 posts)Meanwhile, Iran's navy said in a post on X Wednesday morning that with aggressors threats neutralized & new protocols in place, safe, stable passage through SOH will be ensured.
President Donald Trump, in his own post minutes later, said the war would end and the strait would reopen "assuming Iran agrees to give what has been agreed to, which is perhaps a big assumption." He warned Tehran to agree to his terms or "the bombing starts, and it will be, sadly, at a much higher level and intensity than it was before."
Markets had reacted swiftly to the initial report, sending the price of U.S. crude oil plunging by as much as 15% to $88 per barrel and international Brent crude oil down as much as 11% to $96 per barrel.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/oil-markets-gas-prices-450-us-iran-near-deal-end-war-hormuz-rcna343819
Beringia
(5,585 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,156 posts)It lowers my blood pressure and saves time, which is precious at my age.
Kingofalldems
(40,358 posts)There is no debate, Trump is a filthy lying pedophile traitor.
TBF
(37,073 posts)and come to it mostly for news and to see what is going on with electoral politics. It has been a transition through the years as we are now turning off "mainstream media" outlets, given that they've been bought out by billionaires. In terms of electoral politics, we are at a place right now where the conventional wisdom of the party seems to be just sit tight and let Trump cook (basically, let him blow up things & we'll vote him out when elections come and clean up the mess). That approach has become extremely stressful as Trump escalates, so it's no wonder you feel out of sorts. But I'm also not saying it's the wrong approach. As to why you're not seeing more thoughtful OP's about various positions is that most of what Trump says and does makes no sense. There's really not much to debate - we can all see he is creating chaos to enrich himself, avoid Epstein issues, and keep himself out of jail.
Probably one of the best places you could look for interesting analysis outside of DU is the Indy writers of Substack, where comment sections run the gamut. If you find interesting things there, you could consider bringing them here for additional comment.