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PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:48 PM Yesterday

Well the gloves are off and it's about fucking time:

Since Orangina used the word “fucking” in his shitpost on Lie Social, MSNOW has gone over the top using profanity.

And I couldn’t be happier: it is about fucking time that we got MAD AS HELL and stopped pussyfooting around with these motherfuckers who are trying to destroy the whole goddamned country. I have said for ten fucking years that the Republican candidates for President stood there and smiled like stupid bastards while the shithead was destroying their records, their families, and their wives looks, for Chrissake. If only one had opened his or her mouth and let him have it both barrels he would have been decimated.

As Rocky Balboa said to Clubber Lang “Go for it”.

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Well the gloves are off and it's about fucking time: (Original Post) PCIntern Yesterday OP
Didn't the NYT actually have the nerve to write some scolding story senseandsensibility Yesterday #1
They are the fucking worst PCIntern Yesterday #2
Officious prick you say? BattleRow Yesterday #12
Fuck them. paleotn 23 hrs ago #21
why not add the word FUCK to the dictionary? CountAllVotes Yesterday #3
Your President thinks so... PCIntern Yesterday #5
He makes me so sick! CountAllVotes Yesterday #9
Oh Jesus Fucking Christ... mr715 Yesterday #7
Make that A-O-Fuckin'-K! calimary 23 hrs ago #27
Last I looked "fuck" was in all of the high end dictionaries... Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #28
I think it's been okay for ages, actually... buzzycrumbhunger 22 hrs ago #47
Can't help but use it for the destruction this maniac is doing to all of us vapor2 19 hrs ago #50
Fuck is in many dictionaries radical noodle 19 hrs ago #52
I play a word game and I find it so annoying that naughty words don't count. travelingthrulife 7 hrs ago #61
Been using that and its variations for years, lol. mwmisses4289 6 hrs ago #64
I Hear You, I Agree With Your Stance, But Alas, It IS In The Dictionary..... ColoringFool 2 hrs ago #77
I'm pretty sure it's been in the dictionary for a while, lol. ShazzieB 2 min ago #78
;-{).... Goonch Yesterday #4
Dear PCIntern, it's Sunday! usonian Yesterday #6
A variant: SCantiGOP 8 hrs ago #57
I learned from my grandmother. (Slightly off-topic) usonian 7 hrs ago #60
Grammar rules are made to be broken! mwmisses4289 6 hrs ago #65
Absolutely right SCantiGOP 6 hrs ago #66
That's easy for you to say! usonian 5 hrs ago #72
I've said it many times regarding profanity Skittles Yesterday #8
I'm long past finding the "traditional" "swear words" offensive. MLWR Yesterday #15
? Skittles 23 hrs ago #35
This. 1000% paleotn 23 hrs ago #22
It's lost its shock value. Boomerproud Yesterday #10
It does not shock me CountAllVotes Yesterday #11
I so agree. efhmc Yesterday #14
It Works for Trump Because Lowered Standards Give Him More Running Room WizumbODaSage Yesterday #16
I am able to watch MSNBC online CountAllVotes Yesterday #17
Wow! That works great for me on my phone. I haven't tried it on my tablet yet. Thank you so much! liberalla 23 hrs ago #40
I use it all of the time CountAllVotes 21 hrs ago #48
You may find it inappropriate as I'm sure many do but it does not mean she is poorly educated. chowder66 Yesterday #18
That is fucking cool. mr715 22 hrs ago #45
lol chowder66 21 hrs ago #49
Oh horse shit. paleotn 23 hrs ago #23
Educated as fuck! mr715 22 hrs ago #46
Utter Nonsense Betty Boom 22 hrs ago #42
The unread can't use profanity to effect. enigmania 5 hrs ago #71
It used to be a strong word. In these times, I find that it is no longer strong enough. Marie Marie 3 hrs ago #75
Yes, used too much it is rather boring. mwmisses4289 6 hrs ago #67
Dick Cheney, 2004 vanamonde Yesterday #13
Doesn't matter popsdenver Yesterday #19
Fuckin' Ay Skippy! BidenRocks 23 hrs ago #20
The best insults and swear words aren't in the English/US language . . . Aussie105 23 hrs ago #24
It's a word. Like any other word. paleotn 23 hrs ago #25
Kill the tone argument. Iggo 23 hrs ago #26
Spanish cuss words are the best! EndlessMaze 23 hrs ago #29
I've noticed NPR not being so dreadfully delight for the last few months underpants 23 hrs ago #30
Bring Sen. Mazie Hirono BaronChocula 23 hrs ago #31
You said it, brother. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #32
Netanyahu has hurt the USA as well, Bibi is helping TSF to destroy the U.S.. nt Exp 23 hrs ago #33
Finally Blue_Roses 23 hrs ago #34
Obama was castigated for using the phrase "we kicked his ass." Orrex 23 hrs ago #36
Good to know.. TY! Cha 23 hrs ago #37
I grew up on Frank Zappa, the Fuggs , Captain Beefart... BurnDoubt 23 hrs ago #38
I think Trump was justly criticized for dropping the F-bomb Martin Eden 23 hrs ago #39
Yes:when they go low, we go high, right??? PCIntern 22 hrs ago #43
So we go relentless, pulling no punches Martin Eden 19 hrs ago #54
The national discourse cannot be lowered PCIntern 10 hrs ago #55
It would certainly get lower if Democrats act like Trump Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #56
No one is advocating the abrogation of principle. PCIntern 8 hrs ago #58
Profanity from Democratic leaders is being advocated in this thread Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #62
I agree. Be direct, but not fucking direct, dipshit! NoSheep 6 hrs ago #70
I think others curse besides and beypnd Mr trump Torchlight 22 hrs ago #44
If I remember correctly... oldsoldierfadingfast 22 hrs ago #41
There's No "Fuck" in Broccoli!! The Roux Comes First 19 hrs ago #51
Hold my beer... JoseBalow 7 hrs ago #63
Rec'd for the 'Rocky III' reference.... Jack Valentino 19 hrs ago #53
So I have a story for you: PCIntern 6 hrs ago #68
Just remember: Water seeks its own level. phxjurist 8 hrs ago #59
Fuck is a very versatile word. patphil 6 hrs ago #69
Nicely done PCIntern jfz9580m 5 hrs ago #73
Profanity is a linguistic crutch used by unintelligent fucking assholes. Wait a minute.... Gary 50 4 hrs ago #74
I hadn''t turned on MSNBC in forever, but wanted to see Budapest celebrate... & I not only heard Alex Wagner say "fuck," deurbano 2 hrs ago #76

senseandsensibility

(25,101 posts)
1. Didn't the NYT actually have the nerve to write some scolding story
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:51 PM
Yesterday

about how the Dems are using too much profanity? Just a couple of days ago? I mean, after trump's infamous Easter message with the F-bomb? I thought I saw something about that.

PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
2. They are the fucking worst
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:00 PM
Yesterday

I was related by marriage to one of their executives and posted my story about him some time ago. He was an officious prick.

CountAllVotes

(22,230 posts)
3. why not add the word FUCK to the dictionary?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:01 PM
Yesterday

Everywhere I read and listen, every one is saying the word FUCK now.

Is this appropriate now?

I can remember the day I'd be confined to my room if I used this type of language.

I guess it is just AOK these days.





Wounded Bear

(64,408 posts)
28. Last I looked "fuck" was in all of the high end dictionaries...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:06 PM
23 hrs ago

the kind you would see in college level libraries. Not necessarily in more "children" oriented editions.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,976 posts)
47. I think it's been okay for ages, actually...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:41 PM
22 hrs ago

Ooops… or not. I saved this video on youtube ages ago and it seems it’s now age-restricted. Bullshit! Such a versatile word!

?si=wJNP523mL9zkOyVR

ColoringFool

(779 posts)
77. I Hear You, I Agree With Your Stance, But Alas, It IS In The Dictionary.....
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 04:04 PM
2 hrs ago

Since I taught in the 70s!

But yeah, just one more example of the degradation and coarseness wrought and "normalized" by Trump upon the United States.

My hatred for him extends beyond the known Universe.

ShazzieB

(22,681 posts)
78. I'm pretty sure it's been in the dictionary for a while, lol.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 06:45 PM
2 min ago

But I know what you mean about how it's being used more and more often these days, not just in casual conversation, but in situations where you wouldn't expect it to pop up.

Appropriate is a subjective term, imo. The way I look at it, words are just words. Humans make them up, humans determine what meaning to ascribAll that said, I do agree that the word seems much more out of place in some contexts (like the president's tweets!) than others, and it can be jarring (even to me) to encounter it unexpectedly in done of those contexts. e to them, and how much they upset us is also up to us, imo. That said, I do agree that the word seems much more out of place in some contexts (like the president's tweets!) than others, and it can be jarring (even to me) to encounter it unexpectedly in done of those contexts.

At DU, where we're often discussing the latest horrible thing(s) Schlump has done, I often find myself resorting to the f word and its derivatives (f***ing, f***er/y, as f***, etc.) because it's gotten really hard to find other words that are strong enough to express how I'm feeling. I do have a much more extensive vocabulary, but there's nothing else that expresses the full extent of my loathing and contempt for that Orange Hellbeast tne way the f word does. I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it seems to be something I almost can't help doing these days. I know some of my recent posts have been pretty liberally laced with it, but that is a reflection of how distraught I was when I made thise posts.

Unfortunately, Schlump has reached a stage in his dementia where he is losing his impulse control and his ability to filter his thoughts before they come out of his mouth. He's always been a vile, despicable person, but he used to be able to behave in a way that concealed his worst qualities, especially when speaking publicly. He can still do that sometimes, but those times are getting fewer and farther between and will eventually be nonexistent. I'm afraid we're going to see more and more posts that are laced with cuss words from him, more and more disjointed and nonsensical "speeches," and more and more incidents where he calls someone "Piggy" (or worse), until he loses his verbal communication abilities completely. I just hope he's out of office before he gets to that point, because it's not going to be pretty,

usonian

(25,723 posts)
6. Dear PCIntern, it's Sunday!
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:17 PM
Yesterday

Yes. I know.

I am reminded of a joke I read about Arthur Marx. Can't find it right now.

He was asking an uncle for sugar.

"Pass the sugar, you sun of a bitch"

Father Groucho had to remind him of his manners.
After being duly admonished, Arthur asked politely:

"PLEASE pass the sugar, you son of a bitch"



That said, in proper Bostonian: Screw these bastids to hell.

I do miss Boston, but not the weather, as a lightning storm runs through the Sierra Nevada foothills, bouncing electrical power up and down. Three times lately.

I am typing as fast as I can. (POST RIGHT THIS INSTANT)

SCantiGOP

(14,732 posts)
57. A variant:
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:27 AM
8 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:00 PM - Edit history (1)

“I need a jacket to put on.”
“Don’t end a sentence with a preposition.”
“OK, I need a jacket to put on, asshole.”

usonian

(25,723 posts)
60. I learned from my grandmother. (Slightly off-topic)
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:58 AM
7 hrs ago

When I feel like yelling JE*** CH****.

I remember her saying Gesu Cristo Aiutomi.

Jesus help me!

I am not very religious (It's Monday, The F-Word Lamp is lit. ) but I am respectful.


Besides, everyone knows that a preposition is bad to end a sentence with!

SCantiGOP

(14,732 posts)
66. Absolutely right
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:02 PM
6 hrs ago

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

Skittles

(172,013 posts)
8. I've said it many times regarding profanity
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:25 PM
Yesterday

it is AMAZING what offends some people and what does not.........

MLWR

(1,046 posts)
15. I'm long past finding the "traditional" "swear words" offensive.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:28 PM
Yesterday

What I do find offensive is racial, religious and ethnic slurs.

CountAllVotes

(22,230 posts)
11. It does not shock me
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:14 PM
Yesterday

It is plain inappropriate.

I'm listening to some woman on MSNBC and every other word is FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

This is indicative of a poorly educated individual that lacks the ability to state what they think they are addressing.

It reeks of stupidity and yes, exactly, the SHOCK value of it has worn off!

It is plain stupid now. STUPID!



WizumbODaSage

(30 posts)
16. It Works for Trump Because Lowered Standards Give Him More Running Room
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:29 PM
Yesterday

...but context is STILL important. Trump lovers like how he smashes boundaries but this really won't work for DEMS... not for journalists, not for Chris Murphy. They will still play a double standard. I get that people are angry and fed up but ultimately the ADULT still has the upper hand and expressing yourself as a mature adult should be the USUAL way to express ourselves .. though alone in front of the TV is a free fire zone!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

liberalla

(11,142 posts)
40. Wow! That works great for me on my phone. I haven't tried it on my tablet yet. Thank you so much!
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:47 PM
23 hrs ago

I've tried 2 or 3 other streaming live but they are stop and start, and cover the screen with ads and stuff. This one goes smoothly!

CountAllVotes

(22,230 posts)
48. I use it all of the time
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:03 PM
21 hrs ago

It comes in great on my Windows 7 desktop that is still chugging along!

Glad you found this to be useful.



chowder66

(12,329 posts)
18. You may find it inappropriate as I'm sure many do but it does not mean she is poorly educated.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:39 PM
Yesterday

In fact, a study by psychologists from Marist College found links between how fluent a person is in the English language and how fluent they are in swearing.

The former - verbal fluency - can be measured by asking volunteers to think of as many words beginning with a certain letter of the alphabet as they can in 1 minute.

People with greater language skills can generally think of more examples in the allotted time. Based on this approach, the researchers created the swearing fluency task. This task requires volunteers to list as many different swear words as they can think of in 1 minute.

By comparing scores from both the verbal and swearing fluency tasks, it was found that the people who scored highest on the verbal fluency test also tended to do best on the swearing fluency task. The weakest in the verbal fluency test also did poorly on the swearing fluency task.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

paleotn

(22,367 posts)
23. Oh horse shit.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:57 PM
23 hrs ago

I am quite educated, thank you very goddamn much, and know exactly what I'm trying to convey. Your point? Is there a point somewhere?

Betty Boom

(450 posts)
42. Utter Nonsense
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:55 PM
22 hrs ago

It’s a word that has great power for emphasis. It can be used as every part of speech. Knowing how and when to use profanity appropriately is an art. Not everyone can do that and even on my ears, it can sound vulgar at times. But to make a blanket statement that the use of profanity implies lack of education is complete and utter nonsense.

Marie Marie

(11,358 posts)
75. It used to be a strong word. In these times, I find that it is no longer strong enough.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 03:24 PM
3 hrs ago

But then, cursing has never offended me.

mwmisses4289

(4,334 posts)
67. Yes, used too much it is rather boring.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:04 PM
6 hrs ago

In one of the most boring films ever made, fuck and its variations are used 17 times in the first four minutes. If it hadn't been for fuck, there would be almost no dialouge in that movie.

We should take lessons from George Carlin- his use of profanity in his comedy was always well and carefully placed to make a point.

vanamonde

(243 posts)
13. Dick Cheney, 2004
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:25 PM
Yesterday

Well, fuck, fuckin' Dick Cheney told Leahy to 'go fuck himself' on the fucking floor of the fucking senate, so I don't know why the fuck we waited so long to add the fuckin' word 'fuck' to our fucking government's fucking vocabulary.

/sarcasm

popsdenver

(2,356 posts)
19. Doesn't matter
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:41 PM
Yesterday

The MAGAot Voters will not see him saying Fuck, on Fox....... ....but Fox news will broadcast any foul language by Dems for all his Quasi Christian followers.....

But I am glad to see someone get upset, more than the normal "concerned letter" BS......

Aussie105

(7,997 posts)
24. The best insults and swear words aren't in the English/US language . . .
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:59 PM
23 hrs ago

But we have added 'couch fucker' to the list.

paleotn

(22,367 posts)
25. It's a word. Like any other word.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:01 PM
23 hrs ago

Those who find it offensive should look inward, not at me.

underpants

(196,744 posts)
30. I've noticed NPR not being so dreadfully delight for the last few months
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:07 PM
23 hrs ago

The lawsuit to keep them federally funded is ongoing.

They cut through their soft analysis to state the painfully obvious now.

Blue_Roses

(13,898 posts)
34. Finally
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:22 PM
23 hrs ago

There's just something that makes saying "Fuck" feel so good! It's like when you stump your toe on the coffee table, who really thinks of "oh no" or "ouch". No, I'm way past that and my "Southern Hospitality manners". It's got to be a good ol' FUCK!
I think you got to hit Trump back with what he's giving. He doesn't understand anything else. Oh, hell, he doesn't understand anyway...

Orrex

(67,194 posts)
36. Obama was castigated for using the phrase "we kicked his ass."
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:23 PM
23 hrs ago

But Trump swears like a drunk toddler and our housebroken, obsequious media can't be bothered.

BurnDoubt

(1,786 posts)
38. I grew up on Frank Zappa, the Fuggs , Captain Beefart...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:27 PM
23 hrs ago

After Mario Savio Liberated Language.
And I’m really disgusted by how these assholes have dragged down my favorite words.

Martin Eden

(15,679 posts)
39. I think Trump was justly criticized for dropping the F-bomb
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:42 PM
23 hrs ago

We can excoriate him with powerful statements without emulating his profanity, stooping to his level.

PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
43. Yes:when they go low, we go high, right???
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:14 PM
22 hrs ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂

That worked out real well.

Martin Eden

(15,679 posts)
54. So we go relentless, pulling no punches
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:39 PM
19 hrs ago

Call a liar a liar, a criminal a criminal, and a traitor a traitor. Do you honestly think saying fucking liar, fucking criminal, and fucking traitor will strengthen our argument among people who don't already agree with us?

It won't. It will exonerate Trump for his use of the F-bomb, and convince many folks on the fence that we are no better.

It may provide some temporary satisfaction in venting our rage, but it will not help one bit in rallying more people to the cause of fighting fascism.

All it will do is lower the national discourse, which is probably what our enemies want.

PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
55. The national discourse cannot be lowered
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:32 AM
10 hrs ago

You have a President who posts photos of himself as if he were Jesus.

Dont you get it? The people you’re talking to only vote Dem when Republicans fuck it all up. Then they vote Republican when it’s all cleaned up by a Democrat . Ask President Gore, President Hillary Clinton , and President Harris how it works.

Martin Eden

(15,679 posts)
56. It would certainly get lower if Democrats act like Trump
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:17 AM
8 hrs ago

Not just profanity, but the lies and the jevenile level rhetoric.

The people can't be painted with such a broad brush. Elections are most often won on the margins, motivating souls to the polls and persuading the swing voters. If you think those people don't exist, you are terribly mistaken. I have yet to hear a convincing argument that Democrats in office and pundits on the left dropping F-bombs will help our cause.

Sure, Democratic leaders need to demonstrate more fire in their belly and passion in their speech. They can do that without profanity on their lips, which would turn more people off than on.

PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
58. No one is advocating the abrogation of principle.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:35 AM
8 hrs ago

But this propensity we have with our mealymouthed sternly worded letters and speechifying is worse than useless. You can’t fight a Trump with politesse.

You have to drop the equivalent of a bunker-buster into the debate.

Martin Eden

(15,679 posts)
62. Profanity from Democratic leaders is being advocated in this thread
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 11:15 AM
7 hrs ago

My point is our leaders can be strong and effective without using profanity, which would turn more people off than on.

NoSheep

(8,354 posts)
70. I agree. Be direct, but not fucking direct, dipshit!
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:41 PM
6 hrs ago
Call a liar a liar. A criminal a criminal. Elected officials using profanity and name calling lowers my opinion of them.

Torchlight

(6,909 posts)
44. I think others curse besides and beypnd Mr trump
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:16 PM
22 hrs ago

engaging in cursing is not emulation of his character any more than drawing a breath is emulation of his biology.

41. If I remember correctly...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:48 PM
22 hrs ago

the Latin that I studied 70 yrs. ago, 'fucare' is the Latin term from which we get the word 'fuck' and it means 'to sow seeds',
No matter how we say it, we need to be spreading the 'seeds of democracy' any and everywhere we can.

Jack Valentino

(5,109 posts)
53. Rec'd for the 'Rocky III' reference....
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:34 PM
19 hrs ago

Still my favorite 'Rocky' movie, when the brawler learned to 'box'





Movie quote:
'OH, THIS is not the 'Rocky' we expected-- --
he's out there looking like Apollo Creed!!!'



PCIntern

(28,432 posts)
68. So I have a story for you:
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:09 PM
6 hrs ago

Many years ago, I was invited out for lunch to a restaurant now gone, Arthur’s Steakhouse on Walnut Street in Philadelphia. Next to me were three men dressed well, and one of the men was very familiar, but I couldn’t place him. Its not like I was I’m eavesdropping on their conversation but eventually I heard him say “OK I’ll do it, but I can’t have any controversial lines because I’m a well-known pitchman in Philadelphia from the 1940s to today for Acme Markets and cannot cannot afford any controversy.” As soon as he said that, I realized that It was a local personality by the name of Gene Crane, who wound up portraying the mayor of Philadelphia during the Art Museum scene with Clubber Lang verbally assaulting Rocky and Adrienne in Rocky III.

Gene Crane’s son is David Crane who produced some notable tv shows. Gene died I think in his late 90’s.

patphil

(9,112 posts)
69. Fuck is a very versatile word.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:21 PM
6 hrs ago

The following sentence shows off it's amazing linguistic properties:

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

Gary 50

(493 posts)
74. Profanity is a linguistic crutch used by unintelligent fucking assholes. Wait a minute....
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 02:46 PM
4 hrs ago

deurbano

(3,000 posts)
76. I hadn''t turned on MSNBC in forever, but wanted to see Budapest celebrate... & I not only heard Alex Wagner say "fuck,"
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 04:00 PM
2 hrs ago

but found MSNBC has been rebranded as MS NOW!

I felt like Rip Van Winkle!

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