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Miles Archer

(23,459 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:11 AM 3 hrs ago

Trump wants to reinstate Vietnam-era "emergency enlistment measures." Good. Let's start with his 20 y.o. son, Lurch.

The Trump administration’s Selective Service System (SSS), an agency that keeps tabs on draft-age Americans, has proposed doing away with self-registration for enlistment and instead automatically updating its lists with names drawn from other federal databases.

Federal law already requires men between the ages of 18 and 25 to register with the agency in case the president decides to issue a military draft order. SSS expects eligible candidates to self-register within 30 days of their 18th birthday, but otherwise allows men to file late submissions until age 26.

Trump mandated the new rules, which remain under review pending regulatory approval, in December of last year. Trump’s rules suggest that the president is interested in using emergency enlistment measures the U.S. has not otherwise activated since 1973, during the Vietnam War.

Trump, who attended the New York Military Academy, a prestigious military-style boarding school, did not serve in that conflict, or in any other capacity in the U.S. armed forces. In fact, the president avoided the draft on no fewer than five separate occasions—four times using a student deferment, and a fifth time for medical reasons.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/draft-dodging-peace-president-donald-trump-to-register-boys-for-military-draft-at-18/

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Trump wants to reinstate Vietnam-era "emergency enlistment measures." Good. Let's start with his 20 y.o. son, Lurch. (Original Post) Miles Archer 3 hrs ago OP
"Emergency enlistment measures"? Please it's a draft he's talking about. Walleye 2 hrs ago #1
They want mandatory mil service eventually like our great ally. 617Blue 2 hrs ago #2
With low pay I assume. JBTaurus83 2 hrs ago #14
Low pay with no food stamps or anything else. enigmania 1 hr ago #25
As a veteran liberalgunwilltravel 1 hr ago #15
I agree. evolves 1 hr ago #20
Or some other public service jmowreader 57 min ago #34
I grew up during the VietNam draft MurrayDelph 3 min ago #51
Good response 617Blue 1 hr ago #22
Agree modrepub 1 hr ago #26
Agree in concept too RT Atlanta 1 hr ago #32
All those things should be accomplished by public school. TBF 51 min ago #37
We have one already. dixiegrrrrl 48 min ago #38
Seniors in high school JBTaurus83 45 min ago #40
You made the one point I always make NHvet 8 min ago #50
Whats the emergency??--maybe Trumpy invading Greenland??? riversedge 1 hr ago #28
Trump thinks we've been in an emergency since Obama was elected. Walleye 1 hr ago #29
Republicans always have to make up new terms for things. Arthur_Frain 38 min ago #42
"Military excursion", which doesn't even make sense, is his name for war Walleye 8 min ago #49
Tsk tsk, hereditary bone spurs are no laughing matter Johnny2X2X 2 hrs ago #3
Yes. I still hold out hope that some philanthropist will do a "Billionaire Boys With Bone Spurs" Telethon Miles Archer 2 hrs ago #5
"LURCH!" Love it!!!! MyOwnPeace 2 hrs ago #4
It's perfect. I'm ticked I didn't think of that. Greybnk48 2 hrs ago #11
6'9" and growing? 3825-87867 1 hr ago #18
It CAN happen ITAL 1 hr ago #21
Melania is extremely tall for a woman karynnj 1 hr ago #31
Barron is very tall, but has extremely small hands, so... Omnipresent 53 min ago #36
What ITAL said! Ilsa 57 min ago #33
At age 80, Krasnov was probably 6'1" or 6'2" Ilsa 54 min ago #35
That puts him 1" over the upper limit allowed for servicemen, IIRC. TheRickles 41 min ago #41
You mean the draft, Piggy? Ocelot II 2 hrs ago #6
Yeah EuterpeThelo 2 hrs ago #13
These kids won't be happy MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #17
True, this generation is not been groomed for military service like ours was Walleye 1 hr ago #30
Trump, never one to dabble with the history books, doesn't see it coming. Baitball Blogger 2 hrs ago #7
Planning more mitary excursions, is he? sinkingfeeling 2 hrs ago #8
Cuba, Colombia, Mexico and Greenland once he pulls out of NATO. OGBuzz 2 hrs ago #12
He's getting more and more like Putin every day. dem4decades 2 hrs ago #9
And it's one two three four multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #10
Trump::: Your sons, not mine. Norrrm 1 hr ago #16
Oh, Nobody Will Object to That... MineralMan 1 hr ago #19
You know where I am. Come and get me. twodogsbarking 1 hr ago #23
NYMA is not prestigious Aviation Pro 1 hr ago #24
gums, lurch and kai* shoulld be the very first, and all the of-age offspring niyad 1 hr ago #27
Air drip that turkey baster anchor baby into Tehran Submariner 48 min ago #39
This could very easily be one of "they say" things. WinstonSmith4740 37 min ago #43
Wants/needs younger, strong males to be under his authority so they can't fight his fascists ruining the nation? Attilatheblond 29 min ago #44
Asshat McBonespur says what? Dave Bowman 27 min ago #45
Well, the Democratic Party will be getting a lot of new members....... ashredux 16 min ago #46
Let's Start With Barron Deep State Witch 15 min ago #47
Just one not-so-small problem nitpicked 10 min ago #48
Well, since the MAGAs think women shouldn't be in the military, The Madcap 2 min ago #52

Walleye

(44,956 posts)
1. "Emergency enlistment measures"? Please it's a draft he's talking about.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:25 AM
2 hrs ago

If we had passed the rights amendment, they wouldn’t be pulling this shit

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,225 posts)
15. As a veteran
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:21 AM
1 hr ago

I would be all for some form of mandatory service, be it military or some other government program for everyone, men and women. It would go a long way to making this a more egalitarian society. And it would force the interactions between people who otherwise would never even meet. The purpose and reality of such service would not be to promote more conflicts, in fact it would likely have the opposite effect, since more people would have skin in the game. That said, I wouldn’t support such an action under the current administration.

evolves

(5,844 posts)
20. I agree.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:27 AM
1 hr ago

Some sort of compulsory service either in the military, Peace Corps, or AmeriCorps would go a long way towards building camaraderie in this country.

jmowreader

(53,233 posts)
34. Or some other public service
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:20 AM
57 min ago

Police, firefighting, teaching, healthcare…the list is endless.

MurrayDelph

(5,756 posts)
51. I grew up during the VietNam draft
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 11:14 AM
3 min ago

My draft number was 225, in a year where they'd announced they would not go above 125, and ended the draft before that.

I would have made a lousy soldier, but was studying at the time to become a teacher. If they had offered that I provide my services as a teacher as a way to serve, that would have been acceptable to me.

modrepub

(4,123 posts)
26. Agree
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:06 AM
1 hr ago

It would also provide a lot more push back against military conflict in general by giving folks first hand experience with politicians’ war mongering.

I think civilian involvement in Vietnam via the draft eventually turned the county against the war once folks who served on the front lines returned and started sharing their experiences. We’ve had wars turned into video games removing all the trauma and senselessness war actually creates. Reality is much different, hence it’s why a lot of people never bat an eye during military conflicts that don’t directly affect them.

RT Atlanta

(2,751 posts)
32. Agree in concept too
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:17 AM
1 hr ago

But is the current circumstances that make me say no effin way..... my children are not going to be cannon fodder for israel

TBF

(36,792 posts)
37. All those things should be accomplished by public school.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:25 AM
51 min ago

You don't need to enlist in fighting wars to put people in an environment where they have to deal with other people.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,164 posts)
38. We have one already.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:29 AM
48 min ago

It's called the Peace Corps. IIRC, it popped up in early 70's as option to the draft.
Still going strong, tho only 3,000 or so members.

JBTaurus83

(1,474 posts)
40. Seniors in high school
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:32 AM
45 min ago

Should have to do something for their communities for a few hours each month as a requirement of graduation.

NHvet

(302 posts)
50. You made the one point I always make
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
8 min ago

when asked what I felt I got out of the service. It was the interactions I would have never had otherwise, the people I would have never met, eat with and had drinks with and lived amongst. I found people are the same everywhere, they want life, worth, family and security.

Walleye

(44,956 posts)
29. Trump thinks we've been in an emergency since Obama was elected.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:12 AM
1 hr ago

He doesn’t know the meaning of “clear and present danger”. In fact, he doesn’t know the meaning of any words, he uses them anyway.

Arthur_Frain

(2,378 posts)
42. Republicans always have to make up new terms for things.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:39 AM
38 min ago

It helps them twist the words better.

“Food Insecure” vs hungry people

“Housing Challenged” vs homeless

Sanitize the conversation so it’s easier to do nothing about any problems.

Johnny2X2X

(24,265 posts)
3. Tsk tsk, hereditary bone spurs are no laughing matter
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:29 AM
2 hrs ago

They affect thousands of children of billionaires every war.

Miles Archer

(23,459 posts)
5. Yes. I still hold out hope that some philanthropist will do a "Billionaire Boys With Bone Spurs" Telethon
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:43 AM
2 hrs ago

I think that if we can only raise awareness, we can help.



3825-87867

(1,956 posts)
18. 6'9" and growing?
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:23 AM
1 hr ago

from stock that's 6 feet?
I smell HGH at an early age to make sure he's "royal".
Just a thought, and as an anchor baby, who's your daddy comes to mind.

ITAL

(1,343 posts)
21. It CAN happen
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:29 AM
1 hr ago

It's not common, but I've definitely unusual height differences between parents and their kids. I grew up with a guy who had parents on the average to short side (maybe 5'3 for the mom and 5'7 for the dad) and their son was at least 6'4.

karynnj

(60,985 posts)
31. Melania is extremely tall for a woman
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:15 AM
1 hr ago

so it is not surprising that she has an extremely tall son.

Omnipresent

(7,462 posts)
36. Barron is very tall, but has extremely small hands, so...
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:24 AM
53 min ago

Grabbing at airplanes from on top of the Empire State Building won’t work for the orange orangutan’s son.

Ilsa

(64,403 posts)
33. What ITAL said!
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:20 AM
57 min ago

I have a married cousin who is about 5'9" or 5'10". Her husband is about 6'2" or 6'3". Their daughter is cracking on around 6'. She was half a foot taller than the tallest classmate since elementary school.

You never know what genetics can render along with a good diet and exercise.

Ilsa

(64,403 posts)
35. At age 80, Krasnov was probably 6'1" or 6'2"
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:23 AM
54 min ago

twenty years ago. Our frames weaken with age. I've lost ½" in height.

Ocelot II

(130,686 posts)
6. You mean the draft, Piggy?
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:44 AM
2 hrs ago

Let's see how well that works out for you. You think the young 'uns are pissed off now? Just wait...

EuterpeThelo

(378 posts)
13. Yeah
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:12 AM
2 hrs ago

forced conscription ought to win hearts and minds. Just like it did in 'nam. (Do I need the sarcasm thingy?)

Walleye

(44,956 posts)
30. True, this generation is not been groomed for military service like ours was
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:15 AM
1 hr ago

I think the boys would just refuse to go, Like their orange daddy did

Baitball Blogger

(52,421 posts)
7. Trump, never one to dabble with the history books, doesn't see it coming.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:53 AM
2 hrs ago

Vietnam's conscriptions were a lesson in why you don't conscript. Too many soldiers were not happy to be there and didn't like the idea of being ordered around by college educated lieutenants who had no field experience. If they found one who was especially incompetent, they fragged them as a form of survival.

This time around, no one likes the cause and no one likes the leader who will send them there. If the MAGAs are in the minority in the barracks they will never have a good night's sleep.

Norrrm

(5,136 posts)
16. Trump::: Your sons, not mine.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 09:22 AM
1 hr ago

Someone commented that the Army upped their enlistment age to 42 so Eric can now enlist.
He has a college degree, so make him an officer.



niyad

(132,683 posts)
27. gums, lurch and kai* shoulld be the very first, and all the of-age offspring
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:10 AM
1 hr ago

of every "r" member of congress, and the cabinet of kkklowns.

*yes, I know we don't draft women, but she loves her grampy so much, surely she will volunteer???

Submariner

(13,379 posts)
39. Air drip that turkey baster anchor baby into Tehran
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:29 AM
48 min ago

then when his body bag arrives at Dover for the honorable transfer to his mother and pedo dad, maybe she will answer the calling of the Great Orrex and end this living hell for all of us.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,439 posts)
43. This could very easily be one of "they say" things.
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:40 AM
37 min ago

But I remember reading a while back that at one point Don Jr. was considering enlisting in the Army, and Mango Mussolini threatened to disown him if he did.

Attilatheblond

(8,963 posts)
44. Wants/needs younger, strong males to be under his authority so they can't fight his fascists ruining the nation?
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:48 AM
29 min ago

ashredux

(2,935 posts)
46. Well, the Democratic Party will be getting a lot of new members.......
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 11:01 AM
16 min ago

This didn’t go over very well during the 70s, and it certainly ain’t gonna do well for the GOP now

nitpicked

(1,875 posts)
48. Just one not-so-small problem
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 11:07 AM
10 min ago

Barron is reported to be 6 foot 9.

Army's normal maximum height for enlistment is 80 inches (6 foot 8)
https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/army-weight-rules.html#:~:text=Below%20is%20the%20Army's%20weight,then%20further%20into%20age%20groups.

and I think the other services are the same. IMO, one factor in this is that the US military may be not routinely "geared" to equip and use taller individuals.

The Madcap

(1,924 posts)
52. Well, since the MAGAs think women shouldn't be in the military,
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 11:15 AM
2 min ago

having only daughters is a great blessing.

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