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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump wants to reinstate Vietnam-era "emergency enlistment measures." Good. Let's start with his 20 y.o. son, Lurch.
The Trump administrations Selective Service System (SSS), an agency that keeps tabs on draft-age Americans, has proposed doing away with self-registration for enlistment and instead automatically updating its lists with names drawn from other federal databases.
Federal law already requires men between the ages of 18 and 25 to register with the agency in case the president decides to issue a military draft order. SSS expects eligible candidates to self-register within 30 days of their 18th birthday, but otherwise allows men to file late submissions until age 26.
Trump mandated the new rules, which remain under review pending regulatory approval, in December of last year. Trumps rules suggest that the president is interested in using emergency enlistment measures the U.S. has not otherwise activated since 1973, during the Vietnam War.
Trump, who attended the New York Military Academy, a prestigious military-style boarding school, did not serve in that conflict, or in any other capacity in the U.S. armed forces. In fact, the president avoided the draft on no fewer than five separate occasionsfour times using a student deferment, and a fifth time for medical reasons.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/draft-dodging-peace-president-donald-trump-to-register-boys-for-military-draft-at-18/
Walleye
(44,956 posts)If we had passed the rights amendment, they wouldnt be pulling this shit
617Blue
(2,518 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,474 posts)enigmania
(467 posts)liberalgunwilltravel
(1,225 posts)I would be all for some form of mandatory service, be it military or some other government program for everyone, men and women. It would go a long way to making this a more egalitarian society. And it would force the interactions between people who otherwise would never even meet. The purpose and reality of such service would not be to promote more conflicts, in fact it would likely have the opposite effect, since more people would have skin in the game. That said, I wouldnt support such an action under the current administration.
evolves
(5,844 posts)Some sort of compulsory service either in the military, Peace Corps, or AmeriCorps would go a long way towards building camaraderie in this country.
jmowreader
(53,233 posts)Police, firefighting, teaching, healthcare the list is endless.
MurrayDelph
(5,756 posts)My draft number was 225, in a year where they'd announced they would not go above 125, and ended the draft before that.
I would have made a lousy soldier, but was studying at the time to become a teacher. If they had offered that I provide my services as a teacher as a way to serve, that would have been acceptable to me.
617Blue
(2,518 posts)A national service program not a bad idea. Might bring us more together.
modrepub
(4,123 posts)It would also provide a lot more push back against military conflict in general by giving folks first hand experience with politicians war mongering.
I think civilian involvement in Vietnam via the draft eventually turned the county against the war once folks who served on the front lines returned and started sharing their experiences. Weve had wars turned into video games removing all the trauma and senselessness war actually creates. Reality is much different, hence its why a lot of people never bat an eye during military conflicts that dont directly affect them.
RT Atlanta
(2,751 posts)But is the current circumstances that make me say no effin way..... my children are not going to be cannon fodder for israel
TBF
(36,792 posts)You don't need to enlist in fighting wars to put people in an environment where they have to deal with other people.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,164 posts)It's called the Peace Corps. IIRC, it popped up in early 70's as option to the draft.
Still going strong, tho only 3,000 or so members.
JBTaurus83
(1,474 posts)Should have to do something for their communities for a few hours each month as a requirement of graduation.
NHvet
(302 posts)when asked what I felt I got out of the service. It was the interactions I would have never had otherwise, the people I would have never met, eat with and had drinks with and lived amongst. I found people are the same everywhere, they want life, worth, family and security.
riversedge
(80,924 posts)Walleye
(44,956 posts)He doesnt know the meaning of clear and present danger. In fact, he doesnt know the meaning of any words, he uses them anyway.
Arthur_Frain
(2,378 posts)It helps them twist the words better.
Food Insecure vs hungry people
Housing Challenged vs homeless
Sanitize the conversation so its easier to do nothing about any problems.
Walleye
(44,956 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,265 posts)They affect thousands of children of billionaires every war.
Miles Archer
(23,459 posts)I think that if we can only raise awareness, we can help.
MyOwnPeace
(17,575 posts)Greybnk48
(10,734 posts)3825-87867
(1,956 posts)from stock that's 6 feet?
I smell HGH at an early age to make sure he's "royal".
Just a thought, and as an anchor baby, who's your daddy comes to mind.
ITAL
(1,343 posts)It's not common, but I've definitely unusual height differences between parents and their kids. I grew up with a guy who had parents on the average to short side (maybe 5'3 for the mom and 5'7 for the dad) and their son was at least 6'4.
karynnj
(60,985 posts)so it is not surprising that she has an extremely tall son.
Omnipresent
(7,462 posts)Grabbing at airplanes from on top of the Empire State Building wont work for the orange orangutans son.
Ilsa
(64,403 posts)I have a married cousin who is about 5'9" or 5'10". Her husband is about 6'2" or 6'3". Their daughter is cracking on around 6'. She was half a foot taller than the tallest classmate since elementary school.
You never know what genetics can render along with a good diet and exercise.
Ilsa
(64,403 posts)twenty years ago. Our frames weaken with age. I've lost ½" in height.
TheRickles
(3,412 posts)Ocelot II
(130,686 posts)Let's see how well that works out for you. You think the young 'uns are pissed off now? Just wait...
forced conscription ought to win hearts and minds. Just like it did in 'nam. (Do I need the sarcasm thingy?)
MustLoveBeagles
(16,577 posts)Neither will their parents, some of whom voted for the jackass.
Walleye
(44,956 posts)I think the boys would just refuse to go, Like their orange daddy did
Baitball Blogger
(52,421 posts)Vietnam's conscriptions were a lesson in why you don't conscript. Too many soldiers were not happy to be there and didn't like the idea of being ordered around by college educated lieutenants who had no field experience. If they found one who was especially incompetent, they fragged them as a form of survival.
This time around, no one likes the cause and no one likes the leader who will send them there. If the MAGAs are in the minority in the barracks they will never have a good night's sleep.
sinkingfeeling
(57,844 posts)OGBuzz
(360 posts)dem4decades
(14,129 posts)Needs bodies for his war machine.
multigraincracker
(37,721 posts)We dont want your dirty war.
Back to the 60s
Norrrm
(5,136 posts)Someone commented that the Army upped their enlistment age to 42 so Eric can now enlist.
He has a college degree, so make him an officer.


MineralMan
(151,343 posts)I can't even imagine, really...
twodogsbarking
(18,867 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,612 posts)Its reform school for wealthy, future child rapists.
niyad
(132,683 posts)of every "r" member of congress, and the cabinet of kkklowns.
*yes, I know we don't draft women, but she loves her grampy so much, surely she will volunteer???
Submariner
(13,379 posts)then when his body bag arrives at Dover for the honorable transfer to his mother and pedo dad, maybe she will answer the calling of the Great Orrex and end this living hell for all of us.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,439 posts)But I remember reading a while back that at one point Don Jr. was considering enlisting in the Army, and Mango Mussolini threatened to disown him if he did.
Attilatheblond
(8,963 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,222 posts)ashredux
(2,935 posts)This didnt go over very well during the 70s, and it certainly aint gonna do well for the GOP now
Deep State Witch
(12,728 posts)He's what, 20?
nitpicked
(1,875 posts)Barron is reported to be 6 foot 9.
Army's normal maximum height for enlistment is 80 inches (6 foot 8)
https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/army-weight-rules.html#:~:text=Below%20is%20the%20Army's%20weight,then%20further%20into%20age%20groups.
and I think the other services are the same. IMO, one factor in this is that the US military may be not routinely "geared" to equip and use taller individuals.
The Madcap
(1,924 posts)having only daughters is a great blessing.