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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPope bears brunt of Pentagon insanity
"As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will."
https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo
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Pope bears brunt of Pentagon insanity (Original Post)
DoBW
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The 250th birthday of the USA could have been the most glorious celebration in US history.
Irish_Dem
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Irish_Dem
(81,525 posts)1. The 250th birthday of the USA could have been the most glorious celebration in US history.
Celebrating the birth of the most important democracy in the history of the world.
Celebrating our values, honor, respect with all of our friends and allies.
Instead it is turning into a cluster F, excuse my language.
A huge embarrassment and disgrace.
LetMyPeopleVote
(180,214 posts)2. Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump
It was so bad that Pope Leo changed his plans to travel to the U.S.
This thin-skinned mafia administration is insane.
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-04-08T22:50:43.514Z
newrepublic.com/post/208820/...
https://newrepublic.com/post/208820/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-donald-trump
Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vaticans U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
The United States, Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.
One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France......
The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagons warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that many in the Vatican saw the Pentagons reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.
Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White Houses invitation to host Pope Leothe religious orders first U.S.-born pontifffor Americas 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vaticans U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
The United States, Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.
One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France......
The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagons warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that many in the Vatican saw the Pentagons reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.
Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White Houses invitation to host Pope Leothe religious orders first U.S.-born pontifffor Americas 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands
Hegseth is a religious nut case who believes that G-d is supporting trump's war and military actions. I note that Hegseth excluded Catholics from Good Friday religious events. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221145488 If nothing else, Hegseth's actions/statements and the attack on the Pope violate the basic fundamental precepts of the separation of church and state.