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SamuelTheThird

(1,150 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:06 PM 13 hrs ago

Trump Tells Aides He's Willing to End War Without Reopening Hormuz

WASHINGTON—President Trump told aides he’s willing to end the U.S. military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, administration officials said, likely extending Tehran’s firm grip on the waterway and leaving a complex operation to reopen it for a later date.

In recent days, Trump and his aides assessed that a mission to pry open the chokepoint would push the conflict beyond his timeline of four to six weeks. He decided that the U.S. should achieve its main goals of hobbling Iran’s navy and its missile stocks and wind down current hostilities while pressuring Tehran diplomatically to resume the free flow of trade. If that fails, Washington would press allies in Europe and the Gulf to take the lead on reopening the strait, the officials said.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-iran-war-strait-of-hormuz-ee950ad4?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqdHR79drw7I_TVYrq0F2B4sWdt1T3zKNbC80PMKeGCLsfCuH2NVME6aYRcNNc0%3D&gaa_ts=69cb2138&gaa_sig=PdVJnT9paObiyANB7CJActd8b1im_S0loUyKZ25JMTU-pXilf9J5vp1hSukRq6ikvRFu3199A8OMerJQEl1j8A%3D%3D


who the hell knows at this point

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Trump Tells Aides He's Willing to End War Without Reopening Hormuz (Original Post) SamuelTheThird 13 hrs ago OP
IOW Skittles 13 hrs ago #1
Either that or he thinks he's being slick and he's going Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #6
time to take gramps keys Blues Heron 13 hrs ago #2
In football, it's called a punt. surfered 13 hrs ago #3
So this whole mess is pointless? Besides the death and injuries of our troops, allegorical oracle 13 hrs ago #4
Yep, Fuck shit up, declare victory. flying rabbit 13 hrs ago #5
that tracks dweller 13 hrs ago #7
He and his "crew" Blue_Roses 13 hrs ago #8
So if trump finds an out by declaring victory, does Israel follow suit? yonder 13 hrs ago #9
Just another trip to bankruptcy court. hay rick 13 hrs ago #10
He is telling other Middle East countries to taxi 13 hrs ago #11
Everything he touches dies, including the world's economy. harumph 12 hrs ago #12
SO MUCH WINNING. Maru Kitteh 12 hrs ago #13
TACO LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #14
Every Day is TACO day! Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #15
So he's going to quit, and leave our allies with a Hormuz problem? GoodRaisin 12 hrs ago #16
The US isn't going to solve it through committing more crimes. David__77 12 hrs ago #18
Not debating that. GoodRaisin 12 hrs ago #20
Stopping military action now, today, is the right thing to do. David__77 12 hrs ago #17
Open the fucking straight!!! Throw Stephen Miller in the dumpster where he belongs already! Initech 12 hrs ago #19
They should deploy the Ben Shapiro for sure. David__77 12 hrs ago #21
So..... Declare he won and then RockRaven 11 hrs ago #22
Not The Onion Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #23

Skittles

(171,689 posts)
1. IOW
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:07 PM
13 hrs ago

it's the Trump playbook: create a mess, declare victory, leave others to clean up the mess

Scrivener7

(59,509 posts)
6. Either that or he thinks he's being slick and he's going
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:19 PM
13 hrs ago

to ramp things up somehow. I'm hoping your scenario is the right one because there's no good way to ramp this up.

allegorical oracle

(6,475 posts)
4. So this whole mess is pointless? Besides the death and injuries of our troops,
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:11 PM
13 hrs ago

and spending $2 billion a day, what did he accomplish? When he took office, Hormuz was open and functioning. It closed due to his ordering an attack on Iran. He needs to be impeached.

flying rabbit

(4,969 posts)
5. Yep, Fuck shit up, declare victory.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:13 PM
13 hrs ago

Let someone else pick up the pieces. Lather, rinse, repeat.
LEEEROY JENKINS!!!!

Blue_Roses

(13,879 posts)
8. He and his "crew"
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:34 PM
13 hrs ago

are in so over their head. With gas prices soaring, the choke-hold on the Strait of Hormuz, inflation, etc., his "advisors" see the writing on the wall. Now to try and figure out how they are going bail out and still look like they accomplished something. That's probably more what their "talks" consist of, rather than "talking" to Iran.

yonder

(10,292 posts)
9. So if trump finds an out by declaring victory, does Israel follow suit?
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:37 PM
13 hrs ago

Seems like Bibi will never be finished scorching the earth — they just got started with the Gazafication of Lebanon.

hay rick

(9,603 posts)
10. Just another trip to bankruptcy court.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:38 PM
13 hrs ago

Trump creates a mess and somebody else cleans it up. Trump leaves with his pockets bulging with sovereign wealth fund bribes, his cut from insider trading, and Polymarket blood money.

taxi

(2,710 posts)
11. He is telling other Middle East countries to
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:57 PM
13 hrs ago

get Iran off of his back, or else. He hints that they could be next, that errant missiles could hit a school anywhere?
Trump doesn't care who or how many have to suffer.
It's been said that the worst thing to do in a fight is to be so brutal that your opponent feels the need to settle a grudge.
The 25th is long overdue.

harumph

(3,271 posts)
12. Everything he touches dies, including the world's economy.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:08 PM
12 hrs ago

If something is flawed but still working OK, he'll find some way to fuck it up.

Maru Kitteh

(31,759 posts)
13. SO MUCH WINNING.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:12 PM
12 hrs ago

He’s bored. Nobody is really talking about him. It’s all about oil, and the price of oil, and the market, and the various countries in the ME, and only some of the talk actually involves him. The only people who are really excited about his war are Lindsey G. and Whiskey Pete. He wasn’t expecting MAGA to get cold feet. He wasn’t expecting a recession or gas to climb straight up like a hobby rocket in the engineering department at MIT. Also, he’s realized by now that his buddy Bibi led him by the nose into quicksand.

This “strategy” allows him to get even for that by screwing Bibi over, and blame former presidents of the US and nations of the ME for not “taking care of the problem sooner.”

Renew Deal

(85,141 posts)
15. Every Day is TACO day!
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:18 PM
12 hrs ago

That would be one hell of an embarrassing loss.

And the only reason he can claim that Iran's missiles were reduces is because they used them. They are littered all over the Middle East.

GoodRaisin

(10,917 posts)
16. So he's going to quit, and leave our allies with a Hormuz problem?
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:45 PM
12 hrs ago

That, in fact, he unilaterally brought upon them. They’ll really love that.

God he’s stupid.

David__77

(24,720 posts)
18. The US isn't going to solve it through committing more crimes.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:50 PM
12 hrs ago

Today is the day to get out.

Initech

(108,748 posts)
19. Open the fucking straight!!! Throw Stephen Miller in the dumpster where he belongs already!
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:52 PM
12 hrs ago
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