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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down
And yet Trump has started a war of regime change against a country that is potentially capable of guerilla strikes on American soil.
According to a CBS report from a few weeks ago, "The shutdown will affect the Transportation Security Administration, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Coast Guard, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency and other agencies within DHS that safeguard national security."
It seems to me that if you're going to start a major war with another country -- especially if you're going to force the leaders of that country into an existential crisis, meaning that literally everything is on the table in terms of their response -- it would make sense to have all those defense and security agencies operating at full strength. And yet here we are.
Of course, DHS itself, along with the rest of the Trump regime, has been describing this as the "Democrats' shutdown" because Republicans have refused to negotiate with Democrats, who simply want ICE to follow the Constitution.
Now, if I were a very cynical person, I might think that not only does Trump not care about an attack on American soil, but he'd actually welcome such a thing, because a) he could blame it on the Democrats for shutting down DHS, and b) it would give him the pretext he needs to declare a national emergency and assert federal control over the mid-term elections.
But gosh, one would really have to lose one's faith in the President of the United States to consider that he might do something so disgraceful, wouldn't one?
orangecrush
(29,772 posts)Perhaps this is his endgame.
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orangecrush
(29,772 posts)Even hinting at political violence has no place here.
Wicked Blue
(8,804 posts)dickthegrouch
(4,446 posts)Its all propaganda and lies from every corner.
Only reliable news sources are BBC and the Guardian.
Javaman
(65,537 posts)That is how this all ends
JustAnotherGen
(37,918 posts)Javaman
(65,537 posts)But sadly a lot shit has to happen before that😞
MadameButterfly
(3,959 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,918 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,959 posts)Need some happy endings right now. Help me even imagine such as outcome....
MiHale
(12,880 posts)I think he is inviting an attack on American soil now heres where it gets nasty I believe if Iran doesnt we will have a false flag op.
Attilatheblond
(8,628 posts)The rest of us, not so much. But that IS the plan.
QueerDuck
(1,402 posts)And a country must suffer the consequences as well. Lives will be lost, but maybe hard lessons will be learned too. (But for how long will the lessons be remembered?)
BattleRow
(2,206 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,628 posts)BradBo
(985 posts)popsdenver
(2,080 posts)wouldn't believe the evidence that Cheney/Rummy/FBI Director, enabled 9/11 to fulfill the Republican's wet dream, outlined in their late 90's manifesto: PNAC
And yet, here the Republicans are, yet again, setting the stage, having proved that a 9/11 Scenario would get everyone in the nation behind their atrocity...............
And would certainly take the heat off of the Republicans, Trump's Epstein situation, Putin's Ukraine situation, and Netanyahu's actions in GAZA..........
Martin68
(27,462 posts)military, look tough, etc.
dalton99a
(93,385 posts)multigraincracker
(37,336 posts)Hillary is always right.
calimary
(89,577 posts)tanyev
(49,029 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(2,285 posts)calimary
(89,577 posts)or gets to hear Trump sweet-talking her about such things.
NBachers
(19,358 posts)Maybe this post needs an Eeeeww warning.
calimary
(89,577 posts)And what does she figure Cory Lewandowski can do for her? Or get for her?
SergeStorms
(20,366 posts)for every contingency, so...................... screw it, I can't keep this charade up.
With tRump it's always been, "Ready.......shoot......AIM! He's a horse's ass.
malaise
(294,976 posts)In his twisted thinking
duckworth969
(1,340 posts)state of emergency, foreign government interference in our elections, domestic terrorists, etc.
JFC, cant the Creature just die already?! 😡
Katinfl
(715 posts)wnylib
(25,569 posts)back Trump and Vance would make a sainted martyr out of the pedo slob.
popsdenver
(2,080 posts)it is the 2025 assholes, UBER wealthy, and Corporations that are truly behind this, and if Trump should croak, they will put someone in there to replace him and continue the execution of their madness........These groups only care about themselves and THEIR children and grandchildren, all other's are expendable.............
WASF
oldinmtdem92
(131 posts)i think he is so demented, it is a real possibility.
Wednesdays
(22,255 posts)Let it happen on purpose?
A 9/11-type attack on the USA would be TSF's wet dream. Poll numbers shooting up to 90 percent or more.
BidenRocks
(3,082 posts)DHS isn't shut down as much as they are reloading with all the massive quantities of military equipment chump and noem have bought.
I don't know for a fact, but I think DHS military would be in the top 10 worldwide.
Remember the military helicopter violating city airspace in DC during George Floyd marches?
Chump has his private army loyal to only him.
Like the concentration camps he is building, those are meant for Liberal Thinking people. They will not stand empty!
We must derail this runaway train!
COL Mustard
(8,128 posts)Go wrong????
Attilatheblond
(8,628 posts)It's a damned long list, isn't it
COL Mustard
(8,128 posts)Fraid so. I assume there are no ground troops involved but I dont know for sure.
Attilatheblond
(8,628 posts)And I would not be surprised by attacks here in the mainland US. Trump picked a fight with the wrong people. Jihadists could be anywhere.
usonian
(24,550 posts)Wag the Dog

Now, send ICE, every last one of them.
Make Iran safe for McDonalds

JustAnotherGen
(37,918 posts)They will do anything for their White ChristoFascist Vision.
Orrex
(66,913 posts)calimary
(89,577 posts)Too many marks in Iran he could still work with. And make empty but convincing promises to.
BidenRocks
(3,082 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,446 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2026, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)
But unfortunately - won't likely be the final dots.
Your analysis is cogent and frightening.
Rachel just did 20 Rhodes scholaresque minutes of connecting the dots.
gfarber
(245 posts)There once was a shutdown of State,
With security running on wait,
Yet war drums were played,
And bold threats were made,
While Homeland was guarding the gate.
The TSA tightened no belts,
FEMA felt fundings harsh welts,
The Coast Guard afloat
In a half-manned boat,
While cyberspace guarded itself.
A leader declared with a grin,
Its their fault were all in this spin!
Though talks were refused,
And tempers were fused,
The blame found a partisan bin.
If cynics were prone to suppose
Some strategy hid in the throes,
Theyd whisper, An attack
Might help to give back
Emergency powers he chose.
But surely, the faithful would cry,
No president schemes such a lie!
To wager the land
For political hand
Thats far too disgraceful, they sigh.
So here stands the puzzle immense:
Make war while defunding defense.
One hopes in the end
Cooler heads will amend
This curious lapse in good sense.
> © 2026 Glen Farber. All Rights Reserved.
calimary
(89,577 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,120 posts)seems we've been in that "curious lapse" for a decade now.
With a brief respite for 4 years when the cooler heads slightly outvoted the insane asylum.
purr-rat beauty
(1,170 posts)His dreams of a Gaza Strip Club is gonna be real tough to bring to fruition once a new round of terrorists are born.
pat_k
(12,953 posts)I would think going to war with Iran would require a heightened state of alert.
But what do I know?
I'm just a horrified, heartsick citizen.
https://www.dhs.gov/national-terrorism-advisory-system
Justice matters.
(9,642 posts)Or his damn golf courses around the world....
mmm?
slightlv
(7,680 posts)I strongly believe they will try for the things that make the states what we used to be -- our institutions. But on one hand.. go ahead and bomb the White House. trump has already demolished a good sized chunk of it already... and is busy building a ballroom to provide cover for a deep bunker crypto warehouse underneath it. Bombing it now might be a real favor to the people!
I just hate he has so much collateral damage that doesn't mean anything to any PTB... not here, not there, not anywhere, it seems. We here in the US will suffer horribly because of his actions. And the people of Iran, who have wanted regime change but were too poor and too much a different color couldn't do anything diplomatically because trump is who trump is. I don't care if I get called out... trump has to die. By natural causes would be best at this point, no doubt. But with the damage he is doing to the entire world, I really don't care WHAT takes him out, as long as it also takes out his long line of traitorous minions, as well.
llmart
(17,516 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,647 posts)His popularity would soar, he could declare all kinds of special powers.
And continue with his lucrative crime spree.
Totally Tunsie
(11,742 posts)They would save him a bundle on tearing down all the old US monuments so that he could build all new ones.
applegrove
(131,563 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2026, 05:30 AM - Edit history (1)
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-bell-ca-rvc3&source=android-browser&q=cynical#ebo=0
Earl you are justly empathizing with the Trump regime. They are the cynical ones. Sometimes, quite often these days, you have to go there to the world they inhabit to understand them. It is not as if you can get a straight answer out of them. It is not as if ignoring the threat is an option.
cyn·i·cal
/ˈsinək(ə
adjective
1.
believing that people are motivated purely by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
"he was brutally cynical and hardened to every sob story under the sun"
2.
concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted or appropriate standards in order to achieve them.