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applegrove

(131,545 posts)
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 02:49 PM 15 hrs ago

Democrats Aren't Too Liberal, They're Too Weak

Democrats Aren’t Too Liberal, They’re Too Weak

February 27, 2026 at 7:36 am EST By Taegan Goddard 157 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2026/02/27/democrats-arent-too-liberal-theyre-too-weak/


A new Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll finds just 53% of Democrats call their party tough, compared to 80% of Republicans.

And 31% of Democrats say their own party is weak — almost three times the 13% of Republicans who say the same about theirs.
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Democrats Aren't Too Liberal, They're Too Weak (Original Post) applegrove 15 hrs ago OP
How many support Crockett for Senate ? JI7 15 hrs ago #1
Are you hijacking the thread? Bobstandard 13 hrs ago #8
Nope. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #21
On the contrary, even Independents and some Rs senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #2
Who remembers BADASS Democrats? usonian 15 hrs ago #3
Many people see compassion and moral responsibility as weakness. They are not. Midnight Writer 14 hrs ago #4
Sorry, you can't work with magats, you can't cooperate with magats. Ferrets are Cool 14 hrs ago #5
Bipartisanship cannot be accomplished when BlueKota 13 hrs ago #7
You cannot hold a snake by the tail.. BattleRow 13 hrs ago #19
Exactly, I don't see Democrats as weak PatSeg 13 hrs ago #15
Bipartisan moves Cirsium 12 hrs ago #35
Yes, politics is truly a shitty business PatSeg 12 hrs ago #39
You can't have any of those nice things until MAGA is defeated, dead, and buried. flashman13 13 hrs ago #16
Fuck the Kumbaya orangecrush 13 hrs ago #6
Yet Our Dems Ae Winning Elections & Overperforming!! Cha 13 hrs ago #9
They need to beef up. MAGA does performative applegrove 13 hrs ago #10
"Dems are weak" is Vote Depressing, Cha 13 hrs ago #13
Yes I see them fighting every day. But righteous anger applegrove 13 hrs ago #17
I see "Rightgous Anger". nt Cha 12 hrs ago #31
Fixed it. Thanks Cha. applegrove 12 hrs ago #32
👏👏👏👏👏 Bread and Circuses 12 hrs ago #27
The policies have never been the problem IMO. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #11
Absolutely Correct ProfessorGAC 12 hrs ago #30
I am a Dem Candidate barred from our meetings for being "Disruptive" Fichefinder 13 hrs ago #12
I simply have no interest in emulating Trump / Miller / Vance / Bovino etc., etc. stopdiggin 13 hrs ago #14
We are talking about changing the hearts and minds of people who voted for Trump. Sometimes twice. Or people who didn't applegrove 13 hrs ago #20
not buying in. and it doesn't really matter how you 'frame' the issue stopdiggin 12 hrs ago #24
I agree PatSeg 12 hrs ago #23
Compromise chicago guy 13 hrs ago #18
Yes, but now we've seen that Republicans will not meet in the middle Bread and Circuses 12 hrs ago #26
Interesting that a compromise is a com promise.. BattleRow 12 hrs ago #22
We knew this for years! remember John Kerry ? Weak debates against W. Bread and Circuses 12 hrs ago #25
Haven't reached the first primary and we already lost our shit. RandySF 12 hrs ago #28
Remember?... BurnDoubt 12 hrs ago #29
Democrats aren't weak. Progressive dog 12 hrs ago #33
It depends on the state or district SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #34
Imho, Dems HAVE been weak in certain areas. snot 12 hrs ago #36
Backstabbing Biden was weak. tirebiter 12 hrs ago #38
Can we see how 2026 goes before we beat ourselves up again? RandySF 12 hrs ago #37
According to the latest Gallup poll 45% of the electorate are independents. everyonematters 11 hrs ago #40

senseandsensibility

(24,693 posts)
2. On the contrary, even Independents and some Rs
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 02:54 PM
15 hrs ago

agree with progressive policy issues. Dems certainly do. But Dems don't see their side as fighting hard enough. Fair or not, that's the perception and it is foolish to ignore it. That's why this insistence of some on following protocol (attending the SOTU when it is literally nothing by lies and BS for example) is a real loser. Perceptions are everything.

usonian

(24,502 posts)
3. Who remembers BADASS Democrats?
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 03:18 PM
15 hrs ago


Okay, it was a movie.

Credit Barry Bostwick, "Brad Majors" in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Midnight Writer

(25,250 posts)
4. Many people see compassion and moral responsibility as weakness. They are not.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 03:48 PM
14 hrs ago

The MAGA concept of strength is that of a bullying brute, a rampaging, out-of-control bull that cannot be bound, a might-makes-right maverick that makes up the rules as they see fit.

The real strength is in cooperation, in righteousness, in working for the common welfare, in treating the poorest and weakest among us as well as we treat the most powerful, in ensuring justice and fairness and tolerance for all.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,717 posts)
5. Sorry, you can't work with magats, you can't cooperate with magats.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 04:05 PM
14 hrs ago

Normalcy is LONG GONE in the magat party but Democrats still think normal works. IT DOESN'T.

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BlueKota

(5,236 posts)
7. Bipartisanship cannot be accomplished when
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 04:39 PM
13 hrs ago

one of the parties is unwilling to compromise on even the most reasonable proposals. Republicans think they are 100 percent entitled to their way. How successful have attempts to reason with them or Trump been?

Do you think trying to appeal to the conscience of people who consider dictators like Hitler, and Stalin heroes to be admired has any chance of success?

Look if it were just the old fashioned political arguments about how much to fund social programs versus the military there would be room to compromise.

The Republicans are violating basic human rights, however. Their agent's abandoned a disabled man in severe winter conditions, and he died as a result. They have denied medical treatment to children. They shoot innocent people and defenseless animals. How do you reason or appeal to the consciences of people who have neither. Bully's don't back down until enough people stand up, draw a line in the sand, and send a loud and clear message, their shit won't be tolerated anymore.

PatSeg

(52,873 posts)
15. Exactly, I don't see Democrats as weak
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:31 PM
13 hrs ago

Some people mistake civility and integrity as weaknesses. Just because republicans tend to be deceitful, corrupt, and aggressive, doesn't mean Democrats are "weak". If I stoop to their level, then I'm no better than they are. When we start talking and behaving like them, democracy is dead.

Every day I watch so many Democrats go above and beyond, trying to fight the blatant lies and corruption on the right. They rarely get the credit they deserve. We are on the right side of history and it is important that we don't succumb to their vile tactics. That is exactly what they want us to do, get down in the mud with them.


Edit to add: I am not talking about compromising with evil. We will probably have to defeat them with numbers, truth, and persistence.

Cirsium

(3,782 posts)
35. Bipartisan moves
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:06 PM
12 hrs ago

Triangulating. Trying to anticipate what will appeal to some supposed swing voters. Trying to find some mythical "center." Afraid of Fox News. Afraid of being seen as weak on crime. Afraid of right wing backlash. Afraid of being seen as weak on the military. Afraid of being called socialists. Afraid of what mass media pundits will say. Afraid of alienating big donors. Afraid of suburban soccer moms. Afraid of this, afraid of that.

PatSeg

(52,873 posts)
39. Yes, politics is truly a shitty business
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:28 PM
12 hrs ago

Not for the faint of heart that's for sure. I think we still have a lot of Democrats who need to stop being Charlie Brown to their Lucy. That doesn't mean I think they should all become a version of Lucy.

We've watched republicans play the same tired, dishonest games over and over again for years. They accuse Democrats of doing the same things that republicans are doing and then take advantage of Democrats' reactive, apologetic behavior. Democrats don't have to go down to their level, but they certainly don't need to be so defensive and apologetic all the time - that does often come across as weakness.

We have some of the best Democratic politicians I've seen in a very long time. They are smart, competent, and dedicated to the preservation of democracy.

flashman13

(2,262 posts)
16. You can't have any of those nice things until MAGA is defeated, dead, and buried.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:31 PM
13 hrs ago

Up until then it is going to require leaders that will ruthlessly fight MAGA at every turn. Rank and file Democrats get that. The current perception is that Democratic leadership is not tough enough to do what is needed.

Cha

(318,140 posts)
9. Yet Our Dems Ae Winning Elections & Overperforming!!
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 04:51 PM
13 hrs ago

How does that Track with this Anti Dem message on DU?

applegrove

(131,545 posts)
10. They need to beef up. MAGA does performative
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 04:56 PM
13 hrs ago

alpha stuff. Democrats need to be aggressive and not just react. They need to drive the narrative. The Germans under Hitler followed the rules and were nice to the fascists. You know who wasn't nice? The Resistance.

Cha

(318,140 posts)
13. "Dems are weak" is Vote Depressing,
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:12 PM
13 hrs ago

and I don't see that.

I see Dems Fighting For Us and Fighting FOR America.

But I get it.. many don't appreciate that. And we end up with the PEDO Twice.



Fichefinder

(412 posts)
12. I am a Dem Candidate barred from our meetings for being "Disruptive"
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 04:59 PM
13 hrs ago

How many Retired MSgt., Decorated, Disabled, Desert Storm veteran, union organizing candidates do we have in Arizona? I guess one too many.
https://marcgrahamforaz.com/

stopdiggin

(15,299 posts)
14. I simply have no interest in emulating Trump / Miller / Vance / Bovino etc., etc.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:24 PM
13 hrs ago

and further, no desire to vote for anyone who does. Or holds sentiment for that 'brand' - or feels that it represents any variety or stripe of 'strength'.

Full stop.

applegrove

(131,545 posts)
20. We are talking about changing the hearts and minds of people who voted for Trump. Sometimes twice. Or people who didn't
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:35 PM
13 hrs ago

even bother to vote in 2024. They need a fire lit under them. We aren't bullies but we can be fighters every day, in every way.

stopdiggin

(15,299 posts)
24. not buying in. and it doesn't really matter how you 'frame' the issue
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:43 PM
12 hrs ago

Just absolutely not interested in the 'flexing' and testosterone performance. Much more likely to vote for the 'other' choice (and sincerely hoping there is one)

PatSeg

(52,873 posts)
23. I agree
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:39 PM
12 hrs ago

Watching all the nationwide demonstrations against this administration, I don't see weakness, I see righteous determination. This is how we win.

chicago guy

(47 posts)
18. Compromise
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:33 PM
13 hrs ago

No the issue is not weak or strong. Democrats/ liberals believe that compromise is the correct way government works. Not long ago it did work like that, ask John Bannor who was run out on a rail for compromising that was after Moscow Mitch decided Obama was one term president. The entire country has been race batted by republicans and Trump.

Bread and Circuses

(1,820 posts)
25. We knew this for years! remember John Kerry ? Weak debates against W.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:45 PM
12 hrs ago

I

👉🏽This is not bashing Dems. I continue to support and vote for Dems. We just need to press them to stand up for Constitution more vigorously !

BurnDoubt

(1,606 posts)
29. Remember?...
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:50 PM
12 hrs ago

“Bi-Partisan is Date Rape.”
And “Rules” are for Pussies.

“Evil men do as they please.
Men who would do Good
Must do as they are allowed.”

The “Virtues” of my Youth are now the “Vices” in my reclining years.
And Vice-Versa…...

The window for good options is closing faster every day.
See Gaza for how it ends.

Democrats support Freedom and endeavor to make it available to everyone.
Republicans support “Liberty” for White Male Right-Wing Christer-Republicans and endeavor to make it unavailable to “others”.
It may be just my observation, but I’m standing by it based only on my lived experience after Seventy-Five revolutions around Ol’ Sol.

I Weep For The Babies.

Progressive dog

(7,596 posts)
33. Democrats aren't weak.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:59 PM
12 hrs ago

They choose not to destroy our democracy to save it. That is the only chance we have to come out of this with the smallest amount of damage.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,385 posts)
34. It depends on the state or district
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:04 PM
12 hrs ago

I doubt more liberal candidates would have won in New Jersey and Virginia last November.

snot

(11,646 posts)
36. Imho, Dems HAVE been weak in certain areas.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:12 PM
12 hrs ago

Yes, we've been relatively strong on efforts to help women, black and brown people, and people who don't fit into the traditional gender-related binary; and I'm grateful for that.

But what about issues affecting the economic condition of the 95% (how many Dem representatives opposed the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the decision not to regulate credit derivatives, etc.?);

or the repeal of restrictions on the consolidation of media ownership (how many opposed the Telecom Act of 1996?);

or the wars based on lies (how many voted against the 2003 invasion of Iraq, despite larger mass protests than occurred in opposition to our involvement in Viet Nam? How many voted against the renewal of the AUMF? Etc.);

or incursions against free speech and privacy (how many Dem reps. voted against extensions of the Patriot Act; how many continue to acquiesce in the mass surveillance of innocent citizens; how many condemned Biden admin pressures on social media platforms to censor or shadow-ban citizens' protected speech, or its actions in the arrest of four Black socialists based on their criticism of our involvement in Ukraine)? Etc.

I believe that Dems' weakness on some of these issues, especially the economic ones, helped create the conditions for Trump's election.

People's economic struggles are real, and "messaging" only goes so far to convince them otherwise. Trump hasn't really helped the working class, either; but it took a while for people to feel let down by the Dems, and I fear it will take a while for people to feel let down enough by Trump and other Republicans to switch allegiance again.

tirebiter

(2,688 posts)
38. Backstabbing Biden was weak.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:22 PM
12 hrs ago

Not running on his record was weak. Not facing up to those mistakes just makes us appear even more so.

everyonematters

(4,078 posts)
40. According to the latest Gallup poll 45% of the electorate are independents.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 06:55 PM
11 hrs ago

Many of them don't trust either party to make a difference in their lives. Recently there was a poll that had Trump's approval at 36%. That same poll said that people trusted republicans more to solve the major problems facing the country. I don't think that combativeness influences them. It is a turnoff. The party that can convince them that they are going to make a difference to them can become the dominant party. We need to be more focused on Kitchen table issues instead of combativeness and social issues. There is only so much you can to if the other party controls the House, the Senate and the Presidency.

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