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This is what we had, and what we lost.
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He's a good man and a good President. I miss those days.
multigraincracker
(37,268 posts)When making an important decision, I ask myself What Would Joe Do.
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KS Toronado
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PatSeg
(52,738 posts)He doesn't get nearly the recognition that he deserves. We have been so lucky to have him.
riversedge
(80,220 posts)wnylib
(25,417 posts)quick, efficient handling of covid vaccine production and distribution.
He showed us courage when he insisted on having his inauguration in the traditional way, outdoors in public despite numerous threats against him after the January 6 failed coup by the fascist Trump.
He would not have turned Gaza into an elite resort for the wealthy.
He gave us an example of integrity and decency that is in glaring opposition to the self-serving fascist in the WH today.
Joe's legacy will still live on well into the future despite the fascist's attempts to undo it.
We were blessed to have Joe leading us and the world. He made it a better place throughout his lifetime of public service.
AZ8theist
(7,190 posts)PatSeg
(52,738 posts)NBachers
(19,324 posts)wnylib
(25,417 posts)on a first name basis with several leaders and diplomats in other nations. He was and still is the most knowledgeable American on international politics and diplomacy.
A truly great man.
PhylliPretzel
(217 posts)Just like LBJ with his *Vietnam, Biden with have *Gaza for funding and giving diplomatic cover to the genocide in Gaza.
wnylib
(25,417 posts)I fully agree with Biden's position that Israel has a right to defend itself against any organization that invades them and starts a war with them.
There are many things in Israel's policies that deserve criticism. Netanyahu is a criminal like his buddy, Trump. To stay in power and to avoid prosecution, Netanyau aligned himself with right-wing extremists in Israel. The occupation of the West Bank is illegal and should never have begun, long before Netanyahu became Israel's leader. I remember when it first started and opposed it then.
But Hamas is responsible for the majority of Palestinian deaths in Isael's self defense war against the Hamas invasion of Israel on October 7. The Hamas tactics of warfare, deliberately hiding behind and under their own civilians in order to cry "foul" when attacked, caused thousands of Palestinian deaths. They knew and planned in advance for that in order to use the false cry of "genocide" for propaganda purposes. Their leaders even bragged that it was acceptable to sacrifice their civilians in that way for the greater cause of destroying Israel. Such hypocrisy. They caused the deaths of their own people in order to blame Israel. I do not and never did buy into their BS.
Israel warned civilians in advance before it bombed targets when Israel found Hamas bunkers.
Hamas could have ended the war at any time by returning the hostages that it took. They gambled on world opinion siding with their propaganda.
Biden did not kiss up to Netanyahu like Trump has done. Biden made it clear that he would stand by Israel's right to self defense, but also made it clear that Palestine had a right to be a self governing nation when the war was over. He would never have backed Netanyau's push to take over Gaza completely after the war. He did agree with Israel about going after Hamas bunkers wherever they found them, but also urged Netanyau to be more cautious with civilians.
The chronic terrorism against Israel by Palestinians, aided by neighboring nations who made war on Israel ever since 1948, and Israel's retaliation would not have happened if Palestinians had accepted the offer of official recognition as a nation state by the UN at the same time that the UN recognized Israel. Palestinians instead chose to focus on trying to destroy Israel instead of building up a nation for themselves. The situation was further complicated by the Cold War and Soviet intervention in the ME.
The fake accusation by Hamas against Israel of genocide seeped into US politics to "teach Dems a lesson" by boycotting the 2024 election or voting for Trump instead. Kamala Harris would have followed a two state policy like Biden did. But thanks to the boycotts, we now have a fascist US government with a president who intends to turn Gaza into his own personal luxury resort for international elites. That is the end of any possibility for a free, self-governing Palestinian state. Emboldened by Trump, Netanyahu is imposing harsh rule in Gaza to clear a path for Trump's construction projects. Netanyahu is also openly declaring that there will never be a Palestinian state and is doubling down on Palestinians in the West Bank to intimidate and terrorize them.
Trump has enabled and encouraged this. A President Harris never would have done that. So the Hamas supporters who were shouting "From the river to the sea" and boycotted the election gave to the US and the world the fascist leadership of Trump and destroyed forever the Palestiniann hope of their own nation.
Palestinian civilians were used as pawns by Hamas and their propaganda supporters. Now they are pawns at the mercy of Trump and Netanyahu. I have sympathy for them but have zero sympathy for the Hamas propagandists who destroyed the future of a Palestinian state.
Buzz cook
(2,853 posts)Biden was a fine president till 10/7.
After that his complete support of Israel in the Gaza war was a disaster. His administration disregard of the law governing the conditions under which the US gives weapons to foreign nations was stupid to the point of criminality. He made America complicit in crimes against humanity. And that help Harris lose the election.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,466 posts)calimary
(89,463 posts)Botany
(76,862 posts)Such a decent man.
Marie Marie
(11,110 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,674 posts)Montauk6
(9,335 posts)debm55
(58,667 posts)ToxMarz
(2,842 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,694 posts)Not extorting a jet while he was in office makes him a looser.
Conjuay
(3,013 posts)While Google eyes Patel is off to watch hockey in Italy - on our dime
mountain grammy
(28,865 posts)my guess is trump in his entire miserable life never even rode the subway..
Normalcy, oh how I long for that.. seeing this settled me down just a little.
CBHagman
(17,467 posts)...he has also known happiness in ways that the person currently in the Oval Office cannot. A lot of that is down to upbringing, and much of it is life experience. I get the impression that President Biden did learn to keep grounded through his relationship with his parents.
mountain grammy
(28,865 posts)trump knows neither happiness nor sadness. I see him as an empty shell incapable of feeling emotions beyond anger, revenge and hate.
No grounding for donnie, his parents raised a monster.
KitFox
(528 posts)at a rally in their white shirts with their sleeves rolled up, wearing sunglasses and bounding up the stairs and onto the stage with their genuine smiles. It made you feel good. Helps me to remember what can be as we keep forcing the fight and keep persisting, insisting and resisting authoritarian onslaught.
FakeNoose
(41,010 posts)
Blue Owl
(58,723 posts)Pepsidog
(6,359 posts)Mr.Bee
(1,732 posts)Trump is the Saturday morning cartoon villain we all grew up with who wants to make over the world to suit his needs.
He picks only the best people.
LiberalArkie
(19,571 posts)Seems that they were even projecting that..
We have to investigate everything that comes out of their mouths from now on. We should have been harping about the "Sleepy Don Trump".
FakeNoose
(41,010 posts)Haven't we seen that time and again?
LiberalArkie
(19,571 posts)They say FEMA concentration camps and to me we should have instantly create rules and regulations forbidding them
Keepthesoulalive
(2,200 posts)We are not in charge of the government, republicans are. Perhaps the American people should think about those camps and vote in November.
LiberalArkie
(19,571 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(2,200 posts)They want to be famous on TikTok or they are following someone on twitter or facebook. They will get involved when it affects them personally and they can identify the culprit who is causing them harm, until then they arent political or both sides. This filth bag was a disaster the first time and they re elected him.
LiberalArkie
(19,571 posts)get from their present news sources.
Texin
(2,847 posts)PatSeg
(52,738 posts)so smoothly for the most part, that people just weren't paying attention. Apparently the American public AND the MSM need a lot of drama, always looking for the bad without acknowledging the good.
Tree Lady
(13,157 posts)They have done with many podcasts like Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk messed with them and made them angry at women and somehow that's us because our women are independent and strong.
I noticed even with my daughter she was busy becoming top manager and it was easy for her to let my grandson spend more and more time with video games and getting unmotivated. Really sad he's a smart kid who ended up getting girlfriend pregnant and is working unhappily in a warehouse paying child support, renting a room alone. He won't tell me who he follows but it's a group on X and from things he says he's on maga side although he doesn't vote, he's 29.
live love laugh
(16,284 posts)Miami Blue
(367 posts)The no Malarkey and humble Middle-class Joe.
wolfie001
(7,457 posts)When he had zero help from fucking repukes for the last 2 years of his term. Plus, that pile of shit Sinema sabotaged his minimum wage raise. He's a great guy! And his wife too!
AllaN01Bear
(29,063 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,899 posts)country jump back in once he was re-elected.
BattleRow
(2,186 posts)The toxic overload has overwhelmed both the populace AND the infrastructure.
ColoringFool
(498 posts)Amount of America, from honor to humaneness to the Social Contract to the law to everything.
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