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THIS IS HUGE: for the first time the Dutch newspaper AD reports on possible dead girls related to the Epstein case. They stated that the investigation of the grounds of the 'baby factory' Zorro ranch very likely will include excavation work. They name the report that 2 foreign girls might be buried there. This is a reliable newspaper. The dam is breaking and we the Dutch know how to deal with it
Non Paywall. https://archive.ph/l4Ovs
Lovie777
(22,422 posts)time to bomb Iran.
Easterncedar
(5,918 posts)Wouldnt a refusal of orders be nice about now?
FalloutShelter
(14,348 posts)Go Hollanders!!!!
Chasstev365
(7,460 posts)ColoringFool
(497 posts)flashman13
(2,246 posts)Just asking for a friend.
Insert
thingy.
Wednesdays
(22,103 posts)Tens of thousands of them.
flashman13
(2,246 posts)calimary
(89,463 posts)Wednesdays
(22,103 posts)So...200,000 documents would weigh 200 pounds.
bucolic_frolic
(54,653 posts)200,000 pages divided by 500 sheets = 400 reams.
400 reams x 5 pounds - 2,000 lbs.
Wednesdays
(22,103 posts)wnylib
(25,410 posts)shanti
(21,792 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,508 posts)The only people who might know that are the pallbearers. Did one of them make a statement to that effect? Nobody else would have ever lifted it to know.
colorado_ufo
(6,213 posts)Maybe 10 pounds of ashes?
Wiz Imp
(9,508 posts)And if there were 10 pallbearers, who says they were all necessary to carry any weight? It's not unusual to have 10 pallbearers at a funeral of a public person/celbrity.
colorado_ufo
(6,213 posts)Bev54
(13,365 posts)Epstein was not stupid, if he was burying bodies he would likely not do so on his own land. They are including that in their search.
ultralite001
(2,460 posts)+ any place Krasnov may have poured concrete...
rampartd
(4,398 posts)as for the more aquatic locations, ever notice how obsessed trump is with sharks?
stupid and arrogant as these azzwholes are, there may be something there.
malaise
(294,691 posts)Very important
sop
(18,103 posts)People like Bezos, Weiss and others are making sure it's dead over here.
womanofthehills
(10,825 posts)Independent reporters and Independent podcasters with no sponsors but subscribers.
Cherokee100
(444 posts)What about Ivana Trump being buried, on his Bedminster golf course? Didn't she 'fall' down some stairs?
Response to Cherokee100 (Reply #7)
Volaris This message was self-deleted by its author.
Wiz Imp
(9,508 posts)Ivana Trump was actually cremated and a casket supposedly for her was instead filled with several classified and top secret documents to keep them hidden from federal investigators.
Rating:
Unfounded
On Sept. 20, 2022, the word "cremated" began to trend on Twitter with an unfounded rumor about the death of Ivana Trump, former U.S. President Donald Trump's first ex-wife.
She died on July 14 and was buried six days later at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. According to The New York Times, the ground at the golf club was "consecrated so Ms. Trump could have a traditional Catholic burial."
One tweet asked, "If Ivana was cremated, what was in the coffin?" A different tweet included a picture of pallbearers carrying her casket and also claimed she had been cremated. We found no shortage of tweets that pushed this completely unsupported rumor that claimed she had been cremated.
Volaris
(11,590 posts)TBF
(36,178 posts)is my understanding.
Scrivener7
(59,051 posts)for the property. He says he plans to turn it into a Christian retreat for CHILDREN!
I'm going to guess any evidence is gone.
travelingthrulife
(4,926 posts)Remember that the holiest of Christians, Betsy DeVoss, trafficked children from the southern border to other people.
Kali
(56,748 posts)his son is in it somehow. there was an article here a little while back. he's a rich texan.
swong19104
(600 posts)It would take time and effort. And lots of hush money. NM has already initiated a search.
Wednesdays
(22,103 posts)Not necessarily.
They'd have to do an awful lot of digging to destroy all the evidence. Unless Gaetz knew where all the bodies were buried.
womanofthehills
(10,825 posts)They are looking at trails. Like who knew what and when - who knew the horrors and reported to FBI and who kept quiet. Local people who worked there could have info. What happened to the babies? Were they adopted out, killed etc.
Rep Stanberry mentioned men might have even been killed there.
Wednesdays
(22,103 posts)wnylib
(25,410 posts)who wanted a White infant t9 adopt?
OR, sold to people who would raise it to be used in a pedophile set ring?
Gordcanuck
(171 posts)with the speedup of demo activity. Evidence of other kinds is still being unearthed, such as the photo of Bill,Clinton sitting on a couch at E-steins island with his arm around a younger lady with face obscured. Hell be asked about that one for sure whether in public or not.
KPN
(17,254 posts)important, no?
dalton99a
(93,138 posts)ColoringFool
(497 posts)evolves
(5,807 posts)too numerous to count
travelingthrulife
(4,926 posts)to be buried all over the place. Although females are easier to traffic, I suppose.
They can start working immediately in Trump's Sex Trafficking and Blackmail Services, Inc. Clarence Thomas likes them at 5 years old I hear.
LiberalArkie
(19,569 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 19, 2026, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Edited to add: to the pedophiles and abusers. Really do not know why, but that has always been the thing it seemed like growing up. Probably no one ever believed a boy when they told someone.
mysteryowl
(8,986 posts)It reminded me that Trump buried his ex-wife in one of his golf courses. How odd that was.
And it is an idea 99.9% of humanity would not have as a 'good location' for the ex-wife.
(It was said she died falling down the stairs)
Trueblue Texan
(4,287 posts)falling out of windows.
womanofthehills
(10,825 posts)Epson files contain descriptions of girls being chocked, bitten, bleeding from everywhere- mouth, vagina, butt, painful sex toys, fisting girls - all beyond evil sick. These monsters need to be punished.
Trueblue Texan
(4,287 posts)2na fisherman
(291 posts)The "Epstein Class" feels entitled to treat people as objects to be sexually abused. And the real fear about their sex scandals is not that they will be revealed as sex perverts, which is understood by them to be having forbidden sex for fun with impunity. But the levels of depravity go beyond sex and drift into the evil worlds of cannibalism, torture and those once-rumored snuff films. Sadistic sex perverts seeking ultimate thrills are not gratified by rape. Some feel compelled to dominate their victims to the point of making them suffer and taking away their lives as if they could become gods of life and death-- some ultimate power trip for those twisted personalities who are all id and are amoral. To them, morality applies to the starving masses, never them. Today those wealthy types may be investigated for their possible involvement with murder. And this may continue to haunt them since they can't easily bribe their way out of it, or successfully cover it up.
Escape
(420 posts)I will note that disposing of bodies in or under concrete slabs would insure that all evidence is lost forever.
cer7711
(612 posts).... before revealing the location of those (supposed) graves.
This might be nothing more than a wild rumor/shake-down attempt .
Of course, an allegation this serious needs to be looked into.
Just be careful, please, reporting unsubstantiated rumors/shakedown attempts as verified facts.
Ilikepurple
(520 posts)Perhaps the newspaper should be careful as some are confused by the word possible? Im wary of the more horrid and seemingly outlandish claims about the Epstein affair, but Im not sure that anyone here knows what information is getting to the various interested government and journalists or its evidential support. So, Im also wary of those who take what information they know as the entirety of whats available.
wnylib
(25,410 posts)not an article by a reporter.
IcyPeas
(25,222 posts)Algemeen Dagblad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algemeen_Dagblad
wnylib
(25,410 posts)UTUSN
(77,392 posts)leftstreet
(39,753 posts)progressoid
(52,906 posts)Google lens translate (I don't read Dutch)
ZORRO RANCH
New Mexico Investigates Plan for Super Race and Potential Victims
Did Jeffrey Epstein's 'baby factory' really exist?
Jeffrey Epstein hatched a terrifying plan to set up a baby factory on his New Mexico ranch for a "master breed." The extent of his plan and the number of victims he claimed are being investigated seven years after his death.
Sanne Scheffaut
Rotterdam
A joint Republican-Democrat mission is investigating, among other things, whether the ranch's infrastructure (such as the unusually large living quarters and medical facilities) was intended for the haberdashery. They are investigating whether there are any indications that children were actually born there or whether the plan was in its early stages.
Female victims of abuse at the ranch are also being interviewed, and the commission members also revealed that special attention is being paid to an anonymous tip from 2019, which can also be found in the documents released last month.
This tip, sent via email to a local radio host seven years ago, indicates that two foreign girls are buried in the hills near the ranch. This is said to have been done on the orders of Epstein and "Madam G" (presumably
Ghislaine Maxwell...
leftstreet
(39,753 posts)Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)
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reACTIONary
(7,088 posts).... there aren't any dead girls. This all Q-crap CT bullshit.
It is unlikely that anyone will "excavate" at the Zoro ranch. They are just going to interview witnesses. Who won't provide any information that is important or isn't already known.
LiberalArkie
(19,569 posts)just ran away and people in Mississippi would never harm them.
reACTIONary
(7,088 posts).... there are no bodies. This is Q Anon style CT trash.
oberle
(327 posts)reACTIONary
(7,088 posts).... back in the 60's when Mississippi people and Arkansas people were claiming that the 3 civil rights workers just ran away, we knew who they were and we knew they were actually missing.
Who are these girls who have allegedly been murdered? Who has reported them missing?
A better comparison is to the satanic cult moral panic in which it was claimed that children were being sacrificed - but no children were missing.
This is a ludicrous Q-Anon, Pizza-gate type moral panic. I'll be so glad when this fiasco is over.
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,597 posts)Because there hasn't even been an investigation, and you're already saying there's nothing there.
Some of us can see through that kind of thing
reACTIONary
(7,088 posts)... Were made a long time ago and were often vetted by the Biden administration. Many of them were made by anonymous tipsters who can't even be contacted. In most cases they are second or third hand hearsay.
Maybe you could give me an example - a very specific example - of an allegation that you think warrants investigation and hasn't been investigated.
If the DOJ investigated every crazy claim they get without doing a triage, our justice system would be overwhelmed and actual crimes would not get the investigation that is warranted.
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,597 posts)womanofthehills
(10,825 posts)Lots of info in Epstein files and Rep Stanberry saw some redacted files. Im sure she concentrated on the ranch files. She wants to know who knew what and when.
reACTIONary
(7,088 posts).... basically means "there's no evidence."
Evolve Dammit
(21,676 posts)Skittles
(170,473 posts)canetoad
(20,531 posts)I fervently hope there is viable DNA to be collected. Identify them.
John1956PA
(4,900 posts). . . any investigators in the other Northwestern European countries, lest someone like this guy might come calling:

Susan Calvin
(2,423 posts)given what these people were willing to do, there is no doubt in my mind that some inconvenient people were disposed of
Danascot
(5,185 posts)At a minimum she recruited and groomed the girls and taught them skills like 'massage'. I'm not a lawyer but wouldn't she be considered an accessory to murder?
And she may have more direct involvement. In one of the posts above it alleges (burials) "is said to have been done on the orders of Epstein and "Madam G" (presumably Ghislaine Maxwell..."
If trump pardons her she will leave the country and never surface again.