A thought... what if the "new" detention centers all over the country being aquired are for...

[mysteryowl]

the people the regime has been putting on "a list". The people he thinks are enemies.

I have read that the regime is petitioning tech companies for people's email, names, address etc. if they posted anything against immigration enforcement.

I don't think all those buildings are for immigrants, he hates anyone against him.

[durablend]

1. Not meant the wrong way, so don't take it that way--YA THINK?

They need "storage" for all those people being the mean nasty social media posts that they're trying to get information about.

[KS Toronado]

50. They are for ENEMIES of the STATE.......Democrats

[liberalla]

58. Yes, they're for US...

They think WE are the problem!

[SergeStorms]

65. That's correct.

The facilities they're building are meant to be permanent, not temporary.

The MAGA reich intends to continue for hundreds of years. 🤔 If I remember correctly there was another group almost a century ago which had the same goal in mind. 🤔

Don't remind me of their name, it'll come to me sooner or later. 😉

[Norbert]

69. Permanent for as long as the health if the individual holds out

I'm saying not very long.

Not trying to scare anyone, but we have the head of the DHS killing a puppy with no remorse and her boss raping barely teen girls and murdering citizens & people in boats.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

120. A psychopath a narcissist

Trump is surrounded by psychopaths narcissists addicts and pedos.

[Wednesdays]

102. "Tausendjhriges Reich." Thousand-year Empire of Nazi Germany.

That lasted twelve years.

[cannabis_flower]

92. Good thing....

I’m living in Colombia now. Can’t afford and feel safer here in Armenia, Colombia.

[mysteryowl]

2. I saw a video of a woman recording ICE and one of the thugs came up to her,

took a closeup picture of her face. He then said something like you are now on the list.

We later heard she is unable to fly out of the country, they have her labeled as something nefarious.

[Midnight Writer]

3. At some point, they will declare the "immigrant problem" solved and they will move on to "domestic terrorists".

A "domestic terrorist" will be anyone who criticizes, votes against, or shows insufficient enthusiasm for the regime.

You don't spend billions building a secret police force and dozens of mass detention camps for a "one-off" purpose.

Like many institutions, ICE will experience "mission creep", transforming itself to suit the little dictator's Whim 'O the Day.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

66. Some point soon.

[Midnight Writer]

68. They are already making their lists. It is in progress.

It's their "supply-side" theory applied to prisons. Build the product first, then invent a demand for it.

[1WorldHope]

4. Those prisons are for us.

[gab13by13]

18. They are not prisons,

Prisoners have rights, people get to visit and inspect prisons, they are concentration camps.

[1WorldHope]

88. In Some prisons people have rights, but I haven't heard of very many satisfied customers.

And since krasnik is copying Russia's way of dealing with humans in general I don't think prisoners have any rights in Russia. Then why would Donald Trump want anybody to have rights here?

[Mosby]

93. Like german concentration camps?

Nt

[Klarkashton]

5. They will soon run out of "low hanging fruit" after that it's anyone's guess who will end up in those corporate gulags.

[otchmoson]

26. Big Prison

has to pay they execs & shareholders & political puppets . . . so fill 'er up!

[Soul_of_Wit]

38. For-profit prisons are evil, for exactly this reason (n/m)

[Dreamer Tatum]

6. I think this is the 25th straight year

that DUers have fretted that we will be thrown into camps. Still hasn't happened.

[mysteryowl]

8. This is different and includes people protesting in the streets, etc.

The top leadership is different. No other president has done and said the horrible things we hear about and see every day.

This is different.

[Dreamer Tatum]

11. It's always been different

Still not in camps. Not going to happen.

[mysteryowl]

12. That is reasuring. I hope you are right.

[MadameButterfly]

67. We need to do more than hope

We need to make sure it doesn't happen. And the fight needs to be now, not wait until they widen the net.

[mysteryowl]

117. Of course!

[ShazzieB]

60. Thanks for these comments!

I was on the verge pf panic as I scrolled through the comments, until I came to yours. Thanks for helping me stay grounded!

[NH Ethylene]

61. I think you are right. There are simply too many of us.

However, this year IS different - way different than anything that has come before in this country.

If Trump et al could wave a wand and have all Dems vanish in some way, he would do it. Instead he seeks to keep us afraid and obedient.

[MadameButterfly]

70. He can't get all of us

but he can get some of us.

We can't just wait and hope. Trump needs autocracy to stay out of jail. He has a personality disorder that cannot help but escalate and is incapable of compassion or reason.

But he wasn't ready for Minnesota. We all have to be Minnesota. We all have to be ready to step up.
It will depend on what the people, military, police, and courts do.
And whether we can win over the handful of Republicans we need at every level, because Trump can't do this by himself.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

101. A Modern Military Fully Turned Against a Population

CAN get as many of us that would be able to neutralize any organized opposition. It is hard to conceive that an overwhelming proportion of the military would go along willingly but even medieval armies were not stopped by ad hoc attacks by civilians.

The U.S. has a large well armed militant stripe of civilians hostile to its government and social regulation. I quote the journalist E.R. Shipp writing about militias around the time of McVeigh "We underestimate them at our own peril." I'm not saying they are an existential threat or could do overwhelming damage but even a disorganized flameout could take more lives and disrupt things more seriously and longer than any of us would be able to easily dismiss.

[vapor2]

106. Also Peter Thiel and Elon

[2na fisherman]

108. Too Many of Us

And thanks to the second amendment, so many are armed. Plus this country is so geographically diverse and too big to subdue en masse. As soon as we notice hundreds of protesting citizens are being rounded up by goons as "domestic terrorists" and put into camps, others will begin to resist and many will choose to die on their feet fighting them rather than be slaughtered like cattle in the camps. They can't kill us all and they don't have the numbers or the sustained fascist ideology to outlast a protracted modern civil war fought for freedom guerilla style in urban and rural settings using low-tech weapons like drones and other improvised tools used to fight them. And during such a conflict, some democratic allies of the US may not sit idly by and not support the resistance. Plus the authoritarian regime may be attacked by other outside adversaries at their greatest time of weakness. And such a conflict will have ruinous effects on economies, both at home and abroad. Is this scenario perhaps too hyperbolic? Maybe, but if this scenario is too bad for business, it may not happen because the wealthy might not profit from it and they may seek to preserve markets by taking steps to avoid such a revolutionary conflict before it starts. And their money that first fueled Trumpistan will instead be spent to depose him.

[CanonRay]

81. Said the Jews in 1935 Berlin.

Fingers crossed you are correct.

[LymphocyteLover]

84. I agree it's unlikely, at least in the numbers that it would take to minimize the opposition. They'd have to lock up

millions of us to affect the elections and at the same time it would backfire massively, even more than what we see now, IMO.

But they could still make life hell for millions of us (even more than now) by locking us in camps.

[Intractable]

10. But now, there are actual camps that will be ready and waiting.

[gab13by13]

21. The hell it hasn't happened,

I say there are American citizens in those camps, prove me wrong. No one can inspect those concentration camps.

Krasnov also said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and nothing would be done about it. He openly killed Good and Pretti and nothing is being done about it, the Feds won't even share the evidence with the local police.

I say they are killing people inside these concentration camps, prove me wrong.

[Dreamer Tatum]

28. Prove there are concentration camps first nt

[gab13by13]

36. Webster's definition

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

Give me a hard one.

[Dreamer Tatum]

40. I am sure there are hundreds of concentration camps all over the US

where people are murdered by the thousands daily.

You convinced me.

[gab13by13]

48. You don't have a problem with me

you have a problem with Webster. You are using a narrow definition of concentration camp.

[Dreamer Tatum]

52. I don't have a problem at all, except for the thousands murdered daily

if not hourly. I was unaware.

[MadameButterfly]

71. There doesn't need to be hundreds of camps

or thousands murdered for this to be a problem

There just needs to be some. Or condidtions that could be considered unhealthy or even torture.
Or the possibility of any of the above which we cannot investigate.

i'm not really sure what your objection is to our concerns.

[Emrys]

90. It's not a quibble I ever hoped to have to make, but you're confusing concentration camps with death camps

Look up the definitions.

Deaths might occur in concentration camps as a result of mistreatment, whereas the purpose of death camps was specifically to murder prisoners.

[AllyCat]

56. What do you think these "detention centers" are?

People are completely unaccounted for. They have no charges, can’t meet with attorneys, can’t talk to their families.

Just because there aren’t gas chambers and ovens (although we don’t actually know if there are or aren’t) doesn’t mean they aren’t concentration camps.

Someone else provided a definition. What is your definition of a concentration camp? How is that different from what these mass incarceration sites appear to be?

[Norrrm]

113. What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison?

What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison?

[SCantiGOP]

97. "prove me wrong"?

No. If you want to make wild, unsupported claims, you have to prove it.
Otherwise: “Space lasers stole the 2020 election, prove me wrong.”

[otchmoson]

27. You really think

this is the same country, or the same community, that it was in 2001?

[durablend]

33. When it does happen

They'll be all like "WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE COMPLIED TO BEGIN WITH!"

[mahina]

49. And now the camps exist

[TBF]

53. in previous years they weren't actually building

the concentration camps. wake up, dreamer.

[Nittersing]

54. Then what are all the warehouses for? nt

[Torchlight]

55. Thank goodness no one is being thrown into camps.

(coins have two sides)

[Torchlight]

59. No one's been thrown into a camp?

[ShazzieB]

62. Alligator Alcatraz

If that's not a concentration camp, I don't know what is.

[MadameButterfly]

73. I'm thinking Torchlight agrees with you

Hard in these crazy times when sarcasm is no so easy to detect

[ShazzieB]

83. Oh, duh.

I missed the ? at the the end of the post!

[timms139]

63. People also fretted over

Republicans wanting one party rule and now they have tried that .

[MadameButterfly]

75. Never before did it seem like one party was serious about ending democracy

though I think some of us were being naive until Trump came along.
Instead of worrying too much now, I think we weren't worrying enough before

[leftstreet]

7. Feeding $$ to the commercial real estate industry n/t

[Traildogbob]

9. Bank on it!

Miller’s coming. Hell is on the way. How will we respond?

[mysteryowl]

22. The Senate for sure cannot re-fund DHS

[Traildogbob]

47. Communities are standing up

I hope they prevail. I lived through the county having to relocate an existing land fill that reached its capacity.
But boy did communities rage, and demand not in my backyard. Ultimate found one waaaay out in the country. 30 years ago, but go to a local dumpster center any day and see the mass of one days trash, at one center, that battle may return some day, not so distantly,
“Not my backyard”was a big political message then.
Maybe again, Nationally for Natzeeeee camps of torcher. WWJD?

[mysteryowl]

118. Stand-up! Fight-back!

[OC375]

13. Can they be used for crimes against humanity/the planet trials, too?

Axe swings both ways, as always. Only time and perspective are needed to change everything.

[MadameButterfly]

76. Yeah, but our side won't do it that way

[rampartd]

14. if he deportd the immigrants that leaves these valuable private sector corporate assets empty

no oligarch will abide that.

the prisons are for us. and MUST be destroyed.

[mysteryowl]

16. It is crucial the Senate does NOT re-fund DHS.

Separate out TSA and FEMA and fund them only.

This may be our only way to stop it. Not fund it.

[gab13by13]

25. The Big Ugly Death Bill already funded ICE

[mysteryowl]

29. I am aware.

I am assuming you know there is a partial gov. shutdown to change how DHS operates.
It needs to be expanded with understanding of what else they might do.

[yaesu]

15. Maybe in time for Nov elections? ICE Nazis rounding up "suspicious" voters say they are working off FBI tips

Anything is possible in Nazi ruled USA.

[mysteryowl]

17. Vote early by mail, for sure!

[MadameButterfly]

78. I'm voting early in person

They are trying to make it harder by mail. They won't be going by the postmark. Now all that have to do is mess up the mail for a few weeks. i want to see my ballot arrive in the right place. I'm hoping they can't mess up in-person voting for that whole period of time. But I'm prepared to put in the time if they do. They won't be able to hold me off for 2 weeks.

Of course I'm not a person of color. My strategy might be different then.

[mysteryowl]

116. Yes, I think it will be different in each state and city.

In my state, we can check the Sec of State website to verify our ballet had been received and counted.

[flvegan]

19. We need a new name rather than "detention center" as that's not what

these seem to be. I don't know that "concentration camp" is appropriate here, considering. But "detention center" sounds too polished, too humane, both of which these aren't.

[mysteryowl]

20. True

[gab13by13]

31. Why can't they be called concentration camps

Webster;

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

[flvegan]

46. I didn't say they couldn't

and I realize the definition. My point was the appropriateness of today's use versus any objection due to possible differences in historic use. Maybe "modern day concentration camp" is a good term to delineate from past and current.

[MadameButterfly]

85. We are assuming these will be different from those in Nazi Germany

but history hasn't played out on this. So far there is a measles and a tuberculosis outbreak in at least 2 of the camps. Trump is not yet dictator but he is trying to be. Nothing is proceeding as he originally promised (removing only the worst of the worst criminals).

When you remove protections and oversight, abuse happens. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
We need to have our eyes open.

[MadameButterfly]

79. See #36

According to Merriam-Webster, these are cocentration camps.
No Hitler or gas ovens required. But let's not kid ourselves, enough people will die that we won't be making these distinctions in the future. If we prevail to tell the story.

[dalton99a]

23. Citizens are not off-limits anymore. DHS and ICE don't care about the law

[Torchlight]

24. They are creating a lot of empty cots, waiting for warm bodies

seems short-sighted (at best) to dismiss them as simply immigrant detainment centers. But, the people who instruct us they alone live a reality-based world also tell me that's all they'll be used for.

[TommyT139]

77. Cots would be an improvement.

Packed like sardines, given a mylar blanket.

https://raskin.house.gov/2026/2/raskin-conducts-unannounced-oversight-visit-to-baltimore-ice-facility-exposes-overcrowded-inhumane-conditions

[Deuxcents]

30. I gotta hope that the next administration fixes up these places for our homeless or people waiting for their papers

To allow them to stay here, get a job and then assimilate into society.

[usonian]

32. They are concentration camps. This all must end NOW.

No appeasement. No compromise.

[Multichromatic]

103. I'm sure we too will have Peace for Our Time.

Wait... did that not work out last time?

[xuplate]

34. Of course they are

First you build the infrastructure, then you execute the takeover—-fascism 101.

[orangecrush]

35. They assume Americans are going to camps like sheep?

Stupid motherfuckers

[gab13by13]

39. How many Americans are already in those camps?

The Department of Homeland Security told a court Friday that it could once again ban federal lawmakers from making unannounced visits to ICE detention centers after funding restrictions passed by Congress had expired.

[MuirHero]

89. I keep my Glock and 12-gauge shotgun by the front door.

I live in Pennsylvania, a stand your ground state, and am heavily armed - multiple shotguns, multiple pistols and a high-powered Browning 308 rifle. If those bastards ever try to break into my house without a judicial warrant it will be the last house that those particular criminal goons ever try to break into. I will fight them to the death before I ever end up in one of their fucking concentration camps.

Also, for the record, I am a law-abiding US citizen who has never been charged with a crime and I have a concealed carry permit. Since I obey the law, no legitimate judge would ever have a reason to issue a warrant for my arrest. We have a constitutional right to protect our property and our persons and I will exercise that right to the fullest extent under the law.

If these fascists think that it is only their side who are heavily armed they are fucking stupid. They will learn that lessen if they go into Philly and pull the same shit that they pulled in Minneapolis.

Depending on how bad things get here in Pennsylvania, I will be buying an AR-15 to add to my arsenal.

[orangecrush]

99. I don't own any guns

And I'm not killing anybody.

Doesn't mean I'm going to their gulag.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

122. I can't shoot my way out of a paper bag.

That’s why I am thankful for those who can and make those decisions understanding that killing monsters does not magically turn you into a monster. Everyone has means and choices when it comes to defending you and yours and all. Some people may have to kill to save themselves someone else or the community.

Death is not the cruelest ,torture is and torture is always wrong.

[Soul_of_Wit]

37. Every accusation is a confession

Remember FEMA camps? They only accuse the left of doing things that they would eagerly do.

[Texin]

41. This maladministration's answer to the Soviet-era gulag archipelagos that Solzhenitsyn wrote about.

[Junipercity]

42. Thats why I always

Keep a toothbrush and spare set of underwear in my back pocket. 😄

[MuirHero]

91. Forget the toothbrush and spare set of underwear.

For me it's more like a Glock and a high-powered rifle. The Nazis better stay the hell off of my property.

[Junipercity]

107. Well, yea. That works too.

😆

[Justice matters.]

43. Human Rights Violations

Packed shoulder to shoulder with one toilet seat for a hundred detainees without due process.

And they have the gall to accuse China of Human Rights Violations?

It's also the way the Putin regime works against protesters in Russia...

[doc03]

44. Trump calls anyone that opposes him the

"Enemy" so he may fill them with us.

[MuirHero]

94. Well this is one proud Democrat who will not be helping to fill his concentration camps.

[Junipercity]

45. If they wish.

But they should know I'm a real pain in the ass. Very expensive, and known to be detrimental to the guards morale.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

51. It is funny and sad that I--and I am sure many others here at DU--never even considered any other possibility...

..than that they are being prepared for the "enemies of the state"; nor that the anti-immigrant campaign rhetoric was ever anything less than a cover story for the real endgame of eliminating all opposition.

But that's just the basic playbook of authoritarianism.

However, the purchasing of actual real estate to do the housing is starting to hit far too close to home.

[synni]

57. This was being predicted, way back when Dubya was president

It's been a long time dream of conservatives, to imprison anyone who opposes them.

[dem4decades]

64. Can we just call them Concentration Camps ?

[MuirHero]

95. Not just yes but hell yes!

[patphil]

72. I've been saying that for a while now. Too many facilities; too much capacity for anything else.

But, if we manage to take back the government over the next two elections, we can use a couple of them for ICE and Border Patrol agents, plus the people who directed their criminal behavior.
And, people who facilitated Trump's whole reign of terror and destruction.

[BidenRocks]

74. Defcon 2

Home weapons loaded and unlocked. (No kids)
Marines don't surrender!
I die free!

[MuirHero]

96. Absolutely!

[LiberalArkie]

80. The "Tea Party" was complaining about Obama building "FEMA Concentration Camps".. hmmmm

Always projection with them... If only we had listened.

[BidenRocks]

104. We have their pictures!

Let's track them down and make them accountable!
I want the old lady with a Purple Heart band aid on her chin.
Just WTF lady! You won! How's your life?
Shitty and full of disease I hope!

[Wounded Bear]

82. Authoritarianism 101...

Round up the opposition and incarcerate them.

While the Holocaust rightly gets a lot of ink/pixels as one of the most heinous acts in human history, some of the first residents of the camps were journalists and opposition leaders, including politicians. Not death camps, of course, that came later. But the first concentration camps were for opposition leaders.

[V850i]

86. Not needed for people who will be quickly deported

So whom are these large permanent “detention centers” for? The enemy within?

[2naSalit]

87. That's exactly...

Who/what they are for... they can't deport us to another country so they have to lock everybody up here.

[Autumn]

98. Or they are for people criticizing ICE.

[Blue Full Moon]

100. He's doing everything that Hitler did.

[Joinfortmill]

105. 1939 revisited.

[Sane1]

109. Nick Fuentes advocates Gulags(detention centers) for women

Didn't Fuentes say that "women" need to be sent to gulags??

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nick-fuentes-women-gulag/

[I_UndergroundPanther]

123. Fuentes kiss my ass

Ain’t going to no gulag. I’m not a woman or a man. Whatcha gonna do you insecure man baby who is as smart as a cubed bowling ball.100% psychopath loser.

[James48]

110. We've been saying that for months.

Are you just now seeing it?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

111. in 2029, what can those structure be turned into?

Hospitals.. Schools... Cultural Centers....

[Oneironaut]

112. That's exactly what they're for.

Trump is building a surveillance state with the help of Palantir and big tech, where, all dissent will be squashed, and, the primary purpose of social media is to push state propaganda.

[mysteryowl]

115. I think so too.

Does our elected leadership know this?

[KPN]

114. What if? The only rational thing to think given everything

we’ve seen is they are. Why would we trust they're not?

[Bayard]

119. If the definition of, "Concentration Camp," includes people who are political prisoners,

I would say that all of trump immigrant warehouses are full of political prisoners. Its all about political theater for MAGAts, and what he promised them in his campaigning.

I have no doubt the situation could devolve into Democrats being political prisoners, especially for those who are already on his Enemies List. Think of the people he's already tried to prosecute.

Anyone who says, it can't happen here, is not paying attention. We have never, even remotely, been close to where we are now.

[mysteryowl]

121. Well said

[quakerboy]

124. Obviously.

First they came for the